Yoo big ass toe's Topics (42)

This is exactly what i meant when I say those who prefer main couple must be kind of ?? with the route author took and its understandable because author highkey shelved them even before their season finale

(hot take!!!) Ngl it feels like the author probably has neither the ideas nor the interest to continue with the main couple which is why things are the way they are now

Ngl I agree but also Duke is a bit dumb....he is thinking he doesn't done on her. He seems to do it unconciusly(￣∇￣")
He isn't the brightest.
But also he seems to care for his sons, he is just not as open as the FL is making him with her.
She practicly forced him into being gentle and doting lol. Aggressive cuteness attack.
He is the stereotipical "I will protect you from the shadows" type of dad for the boys, and that's a common trope in these works. The kids seem fine with it, and he became more expressive towards them as well since FL came to them.

literally my exact thought and i’m scared asf

Such an insensitive take....

Insensitive to who?? The mc or the murderer?

Both the characters and the sister.

just to clarify I’m pretty sure that soobin did not kill woori in every single life….at least some yes but we do see that in one of woori’s lives he got stabbed by a random guy for saying that guy was a nobodyand if soobin really was the one killing him in every life, im sure woori would have caught on by his last life and wouldn’t have tried to find out who the person on the motorcycle was bc he would have already expected it to be soobin

“he’s just an asshole” like to an extent yes and it’s acknowledged that soobin’s blame + grudge against what woori did when he was younger is not that justified, and i think we can all agree that to the point of murder is excessive…he’s definitely not a perfect victim but also he’s probably never been able to properly process his emotions and trauma either

if you think abt soobin’s life in the previous lives that woori went through without intervening, 1) soobin never had a support system after his mom’s death and no adult to rely on or teach him stuff (well he could barely rely on his mom while she was alive anyway but at least there was someone), 2) was obviously outcasted at school w/o friends after that event, has no social life or friends to rely on whatsoever, 3) has to be a parent for his sister even tho he doesn’t know how to bc he’s also a kid, iirc he’s only 2 years older than her, and can’t model off their mom who barely parented/disciplined them, 4) later on doing extremely terrible at school, skips meals even while receiving govt assistance, and working his ass off every night (aka getting very little sleep which is the worst combination with as much stress as he would be under), 5) pretty much living in a shit hole paycheck to paycheck, 6) bc he was doing bad at school and his sister probably ended up the same with her social life collapsing, they probably continued living poorly, bare-minimum, paycheck to paycheck with low-paying jobs in the same shit hole forever for the rest of their lives (maybe it was even worse than that considering that they would’ve stopped receiving govt assistance after soobin got out of school)

So what I mean is that there really was no point in soobin’s life where he would’ve been able to learn and properly process/regulate his overall emotions and grudge against woori, never able to emotionally mature, which is why it’s easy to see that it only ever got worse into his adult life when all he’s genuinely doing is working to get by, to keep himself and his sister alive while woori is successful without lifting a finger regardless of what path he pursues, so tbh it’s only expected that all of soobin’s unresolved frustration pent up for 99% of his life living every day like it’s the worst day ever (well bc it is) would lead him to really hate woori and at that point (where he couldn’t care less about being an asshole or acting rationally bc he’s barely living and almost nothing matters for him anyway) it’s no surprise that it takes very very little to push him over the edge, resulting in him acting irrationally

Anyway not saying that soobin was right to be killing woori multiple times, I’m just saying that it makes sense he kept ending up the way that he did in the previous lives, and that he’s genuinely just a product of his environment (as the other characters are too! Sorry this is really long…)

okay sorry one last thing but also if you really think abt it, him killing woori in the previous lives (despite how irrational it is) probably is the one of the only things that he ever did solely for himself at that point in his life that didn’t have to do with trying to just live or get by

Ok I wrote this irritated about the back story because I was genuinely anticipating for it to be a big deal and to be so messed up just for it to be so anticlimactic and so unjustified for the murder, I thought it would be the bullying type and for woori to be seen as a villain but no, turns out woori was a good guy I think soobin is genuinely mentally unstable cause of his backstory and stuff I'm just saying his also to a way at fault for his misery cause he pushed away woori in the beginning and also his sister I'm not saying that it's not understandable after all his a kid who couldn't express his emotions normally but it's also his fault no? He pushed away his only support system and actively ruined his relationship with his sister instead of talking it out he isolated himself, again not saying its not understandable, I just don't like him as an overall character and it pisses me off that woori has to tiptoe and fix something he didn't even broke because soobin refuses to mentally mature



Ok I'm just ranting ya'll I just really don't like soobin
Sorry if this doesn't make that much of a sense English is my third language so pardon mee

I read it all, you do understand. As a child what soobin did and chose to believe makes sense, his condition never improved. NEVER. You have already said a lot abt soobin all of which i agree with. But we have to also understand what poverty and your sole family's death (his sister) does to someone. It's not that soobin sought out to kill woori purposely in every timeline. It was a predestined ending, no matter what bcz woori always failed to understand humans. The psyche behind it all. And we don't even know why the sister died in the first timeline. And Bcz woori was so sheltered, even tho he wasn't inherently 'bad'. His ignorance as a growing person was baffling. Even into adulthood he didn't get it. He was immature. They were in the same school in the og timeline, where woori had no idea what soobin was going through and made careless remarks. Did it when they turned 28 in the og timeline too.

Do I think woori deserves to be murdered? Absolutely not, never. No matter what he was like it doesn't warrant death. No it isn't his fault. But i think that is the character development woori needed. It took him 5-6 lives to learn things.

Do I think soobin was right to kill woori?
Again NO.

But we have to understand where he was coming from. He was a kid doing manual labour to live day to day....his sister didn't like him. He planned to drop out of school. I feel so much for both the siblings.

Okay I acknowledge that you understand and yeah you probably just don’t like soobin it’s probably just differences in preference and approach to the story bc personally i like when characters such as soobin aren’t entirely justified/agreeable in their actions, i think that’s more interesting as long as that kind of development makes sense for their character,, soobin’s character is pretty human to me and it’s pretty common for people to not think reasonably and do disagreeable things, especially in a bad mental state and bad living situation

Obviously I don’t agree at all with, for example, how soobin slapped his sister, though in retrospect it aligns with how he’s been previously shown (from childhood to now) to resort to getting physical when he snaps (like the previous times he’s snapped at woori and at other kids in his past), I think that moment also mirrors soobin’s mom slapping him in ch 39,,! How soobin reacts to his sister getting in trouble in ch 63 also mirrors how his mom reacted to him getting in trouble in ch 39, so overall it probably has more to do with generational trauma (especially when you consider that before woori’s intervention, soobin shows a lot of similar behaviors that his mom showed as head of the household: working a lot, barely being at home, interacting very little and very poorly with family member at home, main interaction is giving money/allowance or whatever when asked)

I don’t think it’s exactly fair to say that soobin (as at fault as he is) refuses to mentally mature when he never really had the chance to or could have known how to ever since he was in elementary school, therapy or anything related being the last thing on his mind,,, i also feel like it’s kind of unfair to say that woori is a “good guy” just bc he’s not necessarily a “villain” like he’s more of just a “guy” at least before his current life… sure you can fault soobin in some ways but you can also use similar logic for woori, like yes a lot of his actions are a result of his ignorance but does that really change the effect that they have? Not really,,, soobin, yes, pushed woori away but woori’s ignorant behavior made it worse and reinforced soobin’s resentment towards him throughout their school years together (he’s also just a kid, it’s understandable, but so is soobin)

To me they’re both just characters who made understandable mistakes when they were young, and it followed them into adulthood very differently bc of their very very different situations and mental states, but I get it if you still don’t like soobin anyway,,, (but also it’s important to keep in mind that the current soobin isn’t the same soobin that killed woori in the past lives)

Again it’s probably just a difference in preferences, you’re entitled to your own opinions and you’re free to dislike whoever you want forever, that’s perfectly fine (sorry this is long again…)

Yes this is exactly what I wanted to say, these things couldn't just be explained in a concised way so i love the long reply. Also like yeah things happened the way they did, but we've seen them come so far now.... All of them are precious. Hoping nothing bad happens to any of them haha. And no I never disliked any of them, in fact I love all the 3 characters.

Grabee haba ng mga reply nyoo

Haha sorry I'm not filipino

Ok na guyss naubusan na ng english ang personn gets ko naman talaga si soobin ayaw ko lang talaga sa kanya

Okok I got you, don't worry

woori wasn't killed by subin in all his past life canoncallly he got killed by him two/three time not 9 (mind you third one was a car accident)

cant you just like press on it and download?

I think he just slept with her to make her a prostitute.
At that moment he saw a perfect opportunity to use her as his pawn.
He has no morals