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I can't get over the fact he RAISED HIM but also they are so cute and Sooins age differently, AGHHHHHHHH
no i agree w u tho like if he started raising him when he was older id get it but damn bro like a baby? i get he aged faster but still. atp ive js been gaslighting myself into believing that it never happened n they met when he was an adult im ngl
Thats so fucking real man
Same. Its like so good but also like HOW I AM SUPPOSED TO FEEL ABOUT THIS. However we shall live in ignorance bliss.
Like I'm sorry everyone but Dan fucking agreed to this. Jaekyung did not grape him
I agreeeee
Sex after coercion is rape, + he's still an abuser physically and verbally
EXACTLY, especially this one time when they had sex in front of choi heesung and dan was totally unaware of this, like yeah HE DIDN'T consent to that and begin violet while having sex is also an abuse cuz dan agreed to sleeping with him not being treated this way
Clock iiit
Actually no. Dan agreed to sleep with him AND have sex whenever and wherever Jaekyung wanted. He was blinded by cash. I'm not saying Jaekyungs perfect by any means he still is a yellow flag. But my point is Dan literally signed up for this. He knew what Jaekyung was like before all that, also are we forgetting he gave Dan many times to leave? Saying if you can't put up with it leave and Dan being like oh but my grandpa. Jaekyung exploited Dan, but never ever Grapes him.
Grandma-
Show me where the supposed coercion is. Are you forgetting Dan was getting paid for this??? He said ooo money okay. Jaekyung literally gave him chances to leave but instead Dan decided to put up with it for cash and Jaekyung got blamed for it.
oooomyyygoood are you hearing yourself?? I literally gave the example of non-consensual behavior of jaekyung, also idc that they had a deal, jaekyung has a rapist mindset and sees sex as a transaction, if you PAY for sex it's never 100% consensual, I won't even talk about his violent behaviour which also speaks VOLUMES. you gotta really chill out, noone is taking this manhwa that serious so stop defending a fictional, bad written character cuz in the end noones caaaaare
Bribing? If you dont actively market yourself as a prostitute or gay 4 pay any attempts to sleep with a hesitant person no matter their body count in exchange for money is coercion bc youre literally COERCING them.
Anyway, chapter 3 the first time they had sex, Lim Dan tried to back out and Jaekyung threatened him with violence (KD: "I-IM REALLY SORRY BUT... I DINT THINK I CAN DO THIS! I CANT DO IT....etc. JK: ....IF YOU WASTE MY TIME LIKE THAT LAST LITTLE BITCH... DONT EXPECT TO COME HOME SAFE AND SOUND.") That sentence itself is enough to make it rape or dubious consent at the least. He does later on suggest a deal himself but for the first time, he was bribed on the spot for sex after found to what he thought was going to be a physical therapy appointment, and when he tried to stop he was threatened.
Chapter 8, Kim Dan literally says "STOP IT!!" before being fingered. He is under a sexual contract but a person not wanting to have alone makes the act non consensual. He even thinks "I KNOW I SIGNED A CONTRACT BUT... THIS IS TOO MUCH!!" a person, even if you have an agreement, if they don't want to have sex, does not consent.
You can make the argument that Dan agreed to these but he hesitantly agreed after being COERCED AND BRIBED, (Multiple times across multiple chapters we see him being very uncomfortable and/or in pain during sex and voicing it aswell so it's not as though JK was oblivious either that Kim was only doing it since he was poor), so no matter what it's dubious consent, and demanding sex from a person from a person giving debatable consent is just rapey.
EXACTLYYYYY