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makino May 16, 2020 9:33 pm

I don't know why people are hating karino cause he was protecting Azusa the whole time, to me atleast.
Since their first year karino was obsessed with Azusa as we see in the chapter. He knew that Azusa was flashy and has a lot of pride, and he wanted Azusa to himself in an obsessed also kinda twisted way, he want to messed him up and he rape him( which in yaoi world often happen , which I conclude as seme being obsessive and possesive of uke) he became king so that he can have Azusa obey him however he want as he knew that he will never have Azusa either way.
He cornered Azusa in a way that Azusa will never say no to him, like when he gave permit to his classmates to rape him but when Azusa was captured he helped him again, he drive Azusa to the corner so that Azusa will only see him, we can know this in the chapter where Azusa mother was call and asked karino to pretend to be friends, karino was first hesitant but azusa told that he had no one other then him to asked in which karino stayed.
Karino also knew that Azusa have a lot of enemy because of his character whether he is king or not, if you see end of chapter 9, there is subtly hint between convo of atsumu and kuze on how karino was protecting Azusa and karino care for him which kuze notice but I think karino hasn't realised his feelings for azusa yet.
.CASTE HEAVEN IS VERY COMPLICATED AND TRICKY MANGA AS IT ALSO TOUCH THE TOPIC OF TOXIC HUMAN CHARACTER LIKE GROUPING AND FOLLOWING CROWDS AND THERE IS SUBTLE HINTS TOWARDS THEIR GENUINE FEELINGS ...I STILL HAVE MANY TO WRITE BUT I AM TOO SLEEPY......

    Anonymous May 17, 2020 12:47 pm

    I don't understand. So rape, gang rape and abuse in general isn't enough reason to hate on someone? And his relationship with the victim? Did I understand correctly?

    Fafi May 19, 2020 8:56 am
    I don't understand. So rape, gang rape and abuse in general isn't enough reason to hate on someone? And his relationship with the victim? Did I understand correctly? @Anonymous

    No all this is definitely worth hating I’m a girl and I can’t even imagine how terrifying that could be but if we talked about Azusa he doesn’t hate Karino and it’s his heart is own choose it’s not like we can do something about it Right?? (=・ω・=)
    For me as long as both of theme truly love each other and they are happy then this is all that matters and I will try to forgive.

    makino May 19, 2020 11:02 am

    Rapist in real life should be hanged but this is yoai, manga and fiction at that, it's not that rape in general is okay, it's just that if you're someone who reads yaoi a lot, you just come to term with it ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    holly May 21, 2020 1:28 am
    Rapist in real life should be hanged but this is yoai, manga and fiction at that, it's not that rape in general is okay, it's just that if you're someone who reads yaoi a lot, you just come to term with it ٩(... makino

    No. This is 2020. If Sangwoo in Killing Stalking gets death, Karino should, by right, get jail. Even if author lets him go off without consequence, doesn't mean you should be telling others to like Karino. You can like rape fantasy, but under no circumstances, should u justify a rapist, even in fiction. Rapist is still rapist whether u like the fiction or not.

    holly May 21, 2020 1:39 am
    Rapist in real life should be hanged but this is yoai, manga and fiction at that, it's not that rape in general is okay, it's just that if you're someone who reads yaoi a lot, you just come to term with it ٩(... makino

    This is 2020. If Sangwoo in Killing Stalking gets death, Karino should, by right, get jail. Even if author lets him go off without consequence, doesn't mean we should be telling others to like Karino. You can like rape fantasy, but under no circumstances, should u justify a rapist, even in fiction. Rapist is still a rapist whether u like the fiction or not. I feel like anyone not part of the yaoi community are going to give a big fat "I told you so" when it comes to yaoi skewing our perception of rapists. Do you really want our community forgiving of rapists just because they are hot? and it is the fiction that has really messed with the minds of young readers Guys, pls pls pls pls don't defend rapists. Karino raped and there is no refuting that. You can like looking at it, rape fantasy is valid, but you cannot go around saying that Karino did nothing wrong because even the bloody author wrote that he did smthg wrong, or else it wouldn't be psychological fiction. So to makino, no, I'm not gonna come to terms with it. Just because he's nice now doesn't mean he wasn't a rapist or an abuser. Azusa didn't need his ass raped for his own good. He got his ass raped for the horny teen readers to enjoy the pleasure of voyeurism and rape fantasy

    makino May 22, 2020 2:37 pm
    This is 2020. If Sangwoo in Killing Stalking gets death, Karino should, by right, get jail. Even if author lets him go off without consequence, doesn't mean we should be telling others to like Karino. You can l... holly

    Killing stalking and caste heaven are completely different manga.... different author.... different story....so just because sangwoo got killed literally doesn't mean Ogawa will killed off karino too....see the story pace of caste heaven.... obviously in the first few chapters karino is a jerk....but you can see character development and I think the author was also trying to show that in future chapter also....(.hopefully which I wish Ogawa do.)....so for me I do not hate karino now....and if Azusa is going to end up with karino or not it's his choice.... obviously you and I have different opinions regarding the manga......and btw I do hate rapist irl and i took caste heaven as a fiction and I wish people should be aware of tags before reading this manga or any other yaoi manga

makino May 5, 2020 4:59 pm

I cried buckets, why is this sooo saddd.....why do I have to see them dieeee....can't they just stop at the fricking reunion...

makino March 27, 2020 9:48 pm

Wtf!!! I mean....Gabriel was as good as dead, it's like his whole existence is erase and that is so sad, I think it was kind of the seme fault that his second persona also awakes, how can the writer let the second persona takeover....I mean....this shit is crazy and I will never reread it again, Gabriel was bad he doesn't deserve this, let him have amnesia but letting the second persona takeover in the end is a big no no no.....any people in their right mind would hate this.....it was interesting at first but I hate the ending

    makino March 27, 2020 9:50 pm

    I mean uke fault...sorry typing mistake

    TaigaB April 6, 2020 6:15 am

    I wanted Gabriel to not be erased just so that he could suffer #-.-)

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