Sanaa

Hi so rape kinks r consensual and r caused due to trauma so no excuses

Its fucking weird tht in the first place nobody asked for consent and i don’t care wether the guy liked it or not its messed up and weird

And u telling us to go read shounen ai bcs we don’t like the rape scenes shows us that “yaoi” is problematic and the fans r too, reading bl with seggs scenes isnt bad but the moment u start making rape seem normal and okay is fucked up also i just know u read “yaoi” for the seggs scenes which makes it very fetishising and problematic go find a life and stfu

Also idgaf wether the guy topping would have stopped the moment he would say “no” or “stop” he shouldve asked in the first place

Hi so having a kink has nothing to do with consent, someone could have a really messed up kink and force it onto people. Having a type of kink means you like doing something, I don't see where the consent is implied. So no, rape kinks are not just consensual, they can be but are not automatically consensual like you make it seem.

Next, I'm not sure if you know but consent doesn't always start with people saying "can I do this" "can I do that" and the person answering "yes". It is a good way to get consent (asking for it) but sometimes it is implied and not openly asked. Please don't act like you need to ask do something every five seconds. Safe words are a good way of expressing whether someone has consent to do something or not without openly asking to do a specific thing. Also what I was talking about is when he said (not word for word) if you want me to stop then say "stop" now. That can be seen as a form of consent because he didn't say stop. It would be a totally different story if he (the bottom) physically couldn't talk but he was able to.

r u fucking stupid even if he has a rape kink that does not excuse the fact that he did not consent to it stop being fucking dense it does not mean that he enjoyed it that it isn’t considered fucking rape! This is such a fucked up mindset to have since this is how most rapists get away with shit “they liked it” ! He should’ve asked and if the guy has a rape kink he could’ve done rapeplay with him which is all consensual with a safe word and shit stop being stupid. People can have rape kinks but that does not mean everybody can rape them

idgaf he needs to give consent

If i’m gonna kiss a girl I will literally ask her because i’m not weird and I don’t want her to feel uncomfortable in the bl community rape is so normalised which is fucked

The reason I brung up rape kinks in the first place was because it is something that some people can accept, and some cannot. I can clearly see that you are the type who cannot accept that some people like things that you dont like. You saying you don't care whether he liked it or not shows that even when you talked of consent, you really didn't gaf about consent because at the end of the day you think "its messed up and weird". That fact that what I said even makes you mad shows that you are the type of person I was talking about. Do open your eyes and understand that people have different things that they like. It may not be normal in society but that doesn't mean you get to judge and say "its messed up and weird". who gaf if its weird, stop calling it rape or non-consensual just because you wouldn't do it. Others like the mc have no problem with it. Its not hard to accept that people will like things that you don't always like.

All I said was that having a kink does not equate to consent. I didn't make excuses for anything having to do with rape. Did you read it or...

U r so stupid I accept and understand taht certain people have rape kinks due to their previous trauma but that does not mean that anybody can go up to them and rape them like I said if u have a rape kink and wanna do rape play it has to be consensual and u HAVE to have a safe word u literally r twisting my words rnt u?

Now I really don't think you listened to what I said. Or maybe you just don't understand that I was saying consent can be understood without openly asking. Not that people should take whatever they hear to be consent.

ITS MESSED UP AND WEIRD THAT SOME RANDOM FUCKING DUDE RAPED HIM R U STUPID U FKN CUNT?? U fujoshis do anything to excuse rape gtfo

Rn u r thinking like a rapist “she asked for it” or “he asked for it” its dumb the way that u think give me an example of asking for consent without saying it

I like how you ignored what I said and heard "rape is okay". I literally just said that some people like things that you may not like. And I don't think you are okay with that.

“people like things that you may not like” rapists like too rape people is tht okay? your logic doesn’t make sens

I think that's perfectly fine that you would ask someone before you do it, that's great. All i'm saying is that if two people wanted to kiss and they both lean in and kiss, does that mean that there is not consent? No, it just means that you don't always have to openly ask. Like I was saying before.

thats something different but that bathroom sense there was no mood or consent the guy basically just showed his dick out and said “suck it” you think thats normal??

i meants scene*

I just did give an example in the other part I replied to. I'm hoping you can understand that. Can you? And no I'm not at all thinking that rape is okay or that he asked for it. I never said what the top did was okay or that he should have done it. Just that the bottom 1. initiated sucking him off and 2 didn't say stop when they did it. Other then that I said that he didn't have non-consensual sex with the third person because it didn't happen, it almost did but it didn't.

No I don't think its normal at all, if that was me, I would have fought him to get away from me because I would not feel comfortable doing anything like that with someone I don't know. However, the bottom thought about it and even though he was not comfortable with it, he still made the first move. But I do understand that (like I said before) he didn't consent to the top forcing it down his throat.

No I don't think its normal at all. If that was me, I would fight him to get away because I'm not comfortable doing anything like that with someone I don't know. However, the bottom didn't do that. I don't remember what he actually said (thought to himself) but I know he thought about it and then made the first move. That was his own decision. I did say before though, that I understand that he didn't consent to it being pushed down his throat.

Sorry about that I thought it deleted and didn't show so I retyped it, that's why there are two but hopefully either one gets my point across.

i understand now what u mean but it is still consider it rape and usually “yaoi” writers make rape seem normal because they make it seem something hot and fun it’s always the same story person that tops rapes person that bottoms and bottom suddenly likes it its such a repetitive behaviour that it seems they wanna make rape seem normal. Also I am sorry for getting mad cuz I did not understand you which made me mad bcs it seemed like u were excusing rape

rip my english at the first half

Yeah I was a little mad too so no problem. Sorry for getting a little angry. And I understand what you're saying. I didn't mean for it to come off like I condoned what was happening or condone rape. I just wanted to express that sometimes it may not be rape and that the person likes it (not that I'm absolutely sure that's how the manga was). I was using the manga as an example but I didn't mean for it to come off as if I knew it what he was thinking, or that I was 100% sure it wasn't rape in the manga. Yaoi manga definitely romanticizes rape a lot of the time so I understand. Thanks for being cool about it and for the apology.