Jeez, Taehan is reminding me of the alpha seme, Taisei, in Juliet no Baka. that sincerity... not a lot of Alphas like that.
could have used a lot more of those two perverts, kang and dunno
gotta love Kamon Saeko. this is one of his best. That second story.... wow
Here is the whole manga in Spanish
https://qvfammaonline.blogspot.com/2018/12/in-cage_12.html
Whereas Japanese is a difficult translation challenge, Spanish isn't. Lots of yaoi fans speak Spanish. If one of you can type out a translation, or even type out a spanish text file, we can find someone to produce these updates. Come on, guys, just a tiny bit of your time, even a partial translation or text would give us all we need. This another of the Salty Potatoes unfinished mangas. They are never going to update "In the Cage." It's up to us.
We owe a lot to QVFamma. If not for them, we'd have nothing.
Here's my "In Heat" list link. You can find info there, too http://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/120017/?filter=&page=1
During anal sex when the people are on all fours, the way to know if the uke is enjoying himself is if his legs are in the right position.
He HAS to be able to have his legs as far apart as he can get them. The top HAS to kneel between the bottom's legs. That's the only way it can be done.
Unfortunately, yaoi authors guessed wrong on how the legs have to be positioned during anal sex.
Anytime the uke has his legs together or not too far apart, it indicates resistance. Unfortunately, yaoi artist don't know this and they've almost always got the uke's legs in this noncommittal position.
Gee, Raindragon, what makes you think you know? Because a guy's penis isn't long enough to reach into an anus when he's got his legs on the outside. also in that position, he is squeezing the bottom's butt cheeks together, which is another reason why the top can't have his legs outside of the bottom's.
The guy on bottom will want his legs as far apart as they can go because he can get deeper penetration that way. The farther apart the uke's legs are spread, the more you can tell he's enjoying the sex.
Women who author yaoi don't get to see much porn in their country, they might not have ever had anal sex, and worst of all, they watch what the other author's do and assume that's the right way. If only they'd guessed right, the past so many years of yaoi illustrations would have been SO much hotter
Lol someone is feeling frisky. Who made your butt itch
His butt always itches. cuz he's a homophobic size queen. LOL LOL
Raindemon puts no baby pics for me again. wahh. lol
Did Raindemon saw bASEBall today? Check that miyuki. Maybe you too busy saying what's what on hiney sex. LMAI
What do you say, Mickey19 buddy?
Lol u maybe right.
Lick
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Iggy???
I'm an old lady I'm not good was acronyms
Thank you for this information I will be on the lookout to see what artists do this. Also, I don't understand the replies under this comment, seems a little "butt itchy" to me.
well, gosh, when someone calls me a hp sq, I just get so forgetful that I can't remember what I was supposed to add to any albums. LOL and yess I was quite busy in the hiney sex department today, too. LOL I wish.
Yes I saw baseball today! very exciting! I love it. What about you, mik?
thank you for your nice remark.
the butt itchy stuff is just old miki joking with me (I'm gonna kill the little rat) lol
You're very welcome!! You're just giving out information there should be no need of nasty remarks.
Also, thanks for letting me in on that inside joke, it threw me off a bit lol
I'm sure I deserve it. LoL but you're too kind. and reasonable, too.
Miki and Mickey are okay, just confused. LOL
I was so so so joking. this is good information so good information. kiss kiss raindemon i love you. You are a kind of person who knows stuff about sex that you can only know by doing it a whole lot! LOL
What throws me off every time is the damn uke never lets me know if he's feeling good. I can't know unless he tells me, and in this scene and many others, the ukes never do. All I get is "ouch!, stop biting me! it hurts! Ack!" and so on through the entire sex act. Do the asians read painful expressions and think, "oh the uke is feeling so good!" Is this a cultural difference? Do they assume I can read, "it hurts" and still enjoy and think the couple is having blissful sex? because I can't.
I really don't get it. so then it's a huge shock to me when I read, "we were having great sex." WHAT??????? I need to know during the sex, not after the fact if I'm expected to think the uke is loving it. jeez. so frustrating.Anyone else get what I'm saying? ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
In ch 34 or 35, Doyun has a blissed out face when he came from Taehan being deep inside him.
Prior to this, Doyun is moaning in pleasure. We just don’t translate the sfx bc we assume everyone knows the sfx are sex moans and groans.
What makes Doyun unique is that he literally says he feels good SO MANY times. Maybe not in Ch 36, but in almost all his sex scenes with Taehan, he says it feels good at least once. I think you’re too focused on Taehan biting Doyun that you forgot previous chapters.
hes mentioned many times throughout the story that he enjoys the sex. why would he obsessively pursue him from the beginning?
WHat! There's sfx? lol I'm sorry to sound critical, and I meant what I said in general, not just you.
The important chapters for me to know he's feeling good are 35,36. To me, looking blissed-out looks like pain, too - I can't distinguish between those facial expressions, and if he never tells me he's feeling good, I can't know.
In these chapters, there's a lot of evidence of suffering without confirmation of ecstacy.
He says, "will it ever end?" discomfort. "Stop biting me." pain. "I'll not never take rut seriously again." "I'm tired." "My bottom hurts." He makes SO many statements of discomfort that, for me, they all run together into a bad experience.
I fought everyone when they insisted he felt good. Then I had to take all that back when he finally said the sex was good way way after the fact.
If it's just me, okay, but there are plenty of other people who are not good at reading facial expressions. Without the uke telling me, I'm going to be waiting to know if the sex is good, and the longer I wait, the more impatient and frustrated I get.
There's another way to tell, but I better make a new topic, and it's go nothing to do with you and dresm's good work.
pursuing and indicating during sex that you're enjoying it are two different things.
Being ready and willing to have sex and indicating during sex that you're enjoying it, are two different things.
I don’t think Love Shuttle falls into this category, since Doyun consistently says he enjoys sex, and says he feels good during the act, but there’s a really good article on why in media, women always have to put up resistant or say no during sex - not just for manga/manhwa/manhwa but all forms of media. Basically it’s sexism. If women didn’t put up resistant or indicated they enjoy sex, it would paint them in a promiscuous light. They were considered immoral for enjoying sex. Something along those lines. And since ukes are often stand ins for women (or portrayed with very feminine traits), they also somehow adopted the traits found in women roles. If you read hentai, you’ll see a lot of very similar “ah no! Please don’t! It hurts!” Lines you see in yaoi.
In chapter 34, even after Taehan bites him, Doyun comes and there’s a panel where he goes, “I’m satisfied”. So Doyun was enjoying it. The knotting exhausted Doyun, but he wasn’t against anything that happened.
What are you even talking about? Thru
Edit: They both wanted it and enjoyed it every single time. They both chose to help each other with their heats. This is not the story to discuss rape m
I never said jack shit about rape, man.
Really? Because I checked up to ch 29 and Doyun never says he's liking the sex until after the fact. When he's in heat doesn't count, of course
saying he's satisfied is great, but I'm saying that during sex, it would be nice if he said something like "I'm enjoying it, loving it, feels good," etc.
it never even occurred to me to think you or dream were to blame for it this. I've always thought it was the difference in subtlety of the different cultures.
absolutely. In fact, being a little older - not all that much, dammit! LOL but the older you are, the more that kind of sexism pervades your consciousness. You can't help it. You can try very hard all your life to be more enlightened, but it's still there.
For me, it doesn't transfer into a male uke seeming like a whore - or not that much anyway, but I see your point on that, and I can see how it would transfer for others.
What I do see in ukes is the woman as victim of sex rather than the perpetrator - figuratively speaking, submissive rather than asserive, and I do like the uke as an echo of the damsel in distress.
I'm affected by a lot of things that put me squarely under the influence of sexism, racism, homophobia, xenophobia, and every other form of despicable human weakness.
You're so right. Of course the woman has to say no, stop, etc. That's my whole point of why the verbal consent fanaticism is so toxic. A woman might want to have sex very badly, but if you force her to give verbal consent, she will have no choice but to say no, every time. There are others who also suffer this: devoutly religious, people who are disabled, intersexed, aged,, there's many people who will not be able to give verbal consent, and forcing it out of them will corner them into saying no. It's too hard for some people to admit they want sex, but they do, and will go with it if they're not pressured.
Okay, that was a bit of a tangent. The thing is, yes, I agree, you're so right about women, not just asian women, but women everywhere. They say no so they won't be seen as promiscuous. sexism. so true.
I don't think it really applies to Doyun, but that wasn't your point, either, I don't think.
Yes, Doyun does say he enjoys it, but I sifted through their sex scenes up through ch 29, and he never says it during the sex. He does give some visual indications, but not a lot. Most of his expressions can be interpreted as pain or plaeasure. Unfortunately, his legs aren't in the right position to be convincing of incredibly hot sex. Someone please tell our womderful, talented yaoi artists to please make the legs part of the sex act. I'm begging here. Inarya Fusanosuke does it right if I remembr correctly, and ayano yamano.
Jeez, the uke has to have his legs on the outside in the missionary position. The same goes for when he's on his hands and knees. seems obvious to me.
wow, people will argue about the silliest things. lol im just shaking my head.
If you're talking about Taehan's rut sex, then ch 34 is the indication where Doyun says he likes it. If you're talking about overall, soooo many chapters. Here are some panels from ch 29, 21, 12, and 7. I only did some of them. There are a lot more. For example ch 21 and 7 had a couple of scenes where Doyun says he feels good, but I only took one panel from each chapter. Ch 29, 21, and 7 were all chapters where Doyun is sane and during the act. Not after the fact.
https://silverblossombells.dreamwidth.org/5480.html#cutid1
Waitwaitwait! So u mean this torture will continue for atleast three more chapters!!? Σ(っ°Д °;)っ Man i think ill go crazy even before those where uploaded
thank you for the screen shots.
I wasn't considering while he's in heat to be part of it. Yeah, that was great. Don't need a lot of verbal. I know he's enjoying it because he's half out of his mind with pleasure, right? I appreciated seeing those panel again, though. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
This is among the sexiest stories I've read. I'm not saying the sex was bad. It was mostly good, and I'll concede that he absolutely indicates how much he enjoys it all through ch3.. where he starts out dreaming... at Tae's apartment. very hot chapter.
In ch 21 "that was amazing" this is one of the frustrating ones for me cuz he doesn't tell me he enjoyed it until after the sex is over.
he does say it's good kissing, and a shame I didn't see what he looks like during sex before.
He also says some spectacularly frustrating things in CH 21:
"I don't even know anymore" wtf?
"is this what he means by in my right mind cuz I can't handle it" WTF?
He doesn't answer when tae asks if it's good. (I could've kicked his ass)
He says, "am I going to change into that thing I'm not?" Jesus, Doyun! You're supposed to be enjoying sex, not thinking about shit like that!
In the morning as he leaves he gives a little smile, nice pleasure thing, but it's not during sex.
The ses first night at apt. - okay, no verbal but any fool can see they're enjoying each other.
I'll also concede that when I commented originally, it was over the bite-boy chapters where again he tells me way later that it was good sex. that whole scene - would it have killed aju to give me just one tiny hint that it was in some way good for him?
Off the subject, why did you choose Nike as your member name?
sorry to say this on your dime, fudyo, but someone addressed me then changed things so response could not happen. Nike, Fudyo (saltiness notwithstanding), and I are not in conflict, stupid.
this made me laugh. LOL ty XO
Aeju does a lot inferring. I believe she's the type of author that trusts her readers to read between the lines. There are some authors that tell readers what the characters are feeling versus authors that show. In the case of ch 21, you were supposed to read between the lines that Doyun was feeling so good he couldn't handle it.
Another instance I know where it was inferred was ch 9. When Eunsoo asks if Doyun had an alpha, and Taehan was like, "Ha! This prick? Of course he doesn't." There was a subtlety that Taehan was jealous and was cock sure Doyun wasn't taken. It wasn't said outright, but you can tell from Taehan's reaction that he was jealous and possessive of Doyun.
Haha the name "Nike" came from this old Japanese anime called "Mahoujin Guru Guru". It's the name of the protagonist. It's pronounced "Nee Kay". I just liked the way it sounded and the anime is hilarious.
okay, please go here: http://www.mangago.me/home/photo/4528780/ You can see a photo of the Winged Nike. It's really incredible
the whole point is that reading between the lines and inferring is not possible. facial expressions during sex look like pain
I'll concede that pregnancy might happen, and that it would be the worst possible outcome of Doyun's and Tae's story. It would generate tons of problems and put the couple in pure hell. That being the case, it would be a good direction for the author to take. Pregnancy now would generate tremendous drama, turmoil, confusion, and unhappiness. It's a fertile hotbed of disastrous material, a dream come true for an author.
On the other hand, the author is not going to want to give the reader what he wants and expects....
If the author does decide to go that route, I may have to drop that. I'm never in the mood to read about emotional disasters - which it will be as you said. Plus, it's just not an element that would be good to add into their VERY new relationship right now.
nah
someone with a head on their shoulders at last
I do really agree. If he gets pregnant, then there would be a lot of drama. And I don’t want to deal with emotional disasters. I really hope that they are aware and use protection.
Well, we don't know for sure but I feel like it's not gonna go that route because I kinda have a theory the fact that he is an unstable omega. If it does go that route I have a feeling it may become a miscarriage.
I was thinking the same about the miscarriage and maybe because of that the brother and the doctor get to interact...
pregnancy isnt always life destroying. not sure why everyone is so against it.. sure its best to wait until you are stable in a relationship, but many people have kids early and stay together.
I think it will be difficult for them, but I´ll be happy with any of the outcomes, whether he gets pregnant or not, I´m sure it would be awesome and they´ll be able to handle it, specially Taehan...
get me a statistic and citation on that, Jess, and I'll believe it.
You said, "many people have kids early and stay together." I'm asking you to back that up with a valid statistic. 10%? 25%?
What I do know is that it's been proven that having kids doesn't add happiness to people's lives.
look, if this is just your personal experience of knowing many people or hearing if it, I can accept that with no problem. You sounded so sure that I thought you might have a source., but if you're referring to your own experiences I see can that as valid as well.
ive seen raindragon on many threads. lol she/he loves arguing and being aggressive. fact is many people have kids and are happy. do some people have kids and arent happy? sure. but for some people kids are a huge blessing. i love all my neices and nephews and they are a blessing. i spend as much of my free time with them as i can. i see people who have kids and keep having more because they love being parents. having a child isnt life destroy, so long as you choose to have the kids.
The problem I have is with the story specifically. Doyun, at this stage in his life, is akin to a young kid going through puberty for the first time. He only JUST experiencing his first heat, and he's experiencing his first relationship with an alpha, as an functioning omega - and this relationship isn't even stable yet.
This all JUST happened for him. Imagine telling a young girl who just had her first period; "Congratulations on your first period! Here's your new husband and oh - don't get pregnant. Have fun~!"
Realistically, a pregnancy would fuck Doyun up REAL bad. And if the author has any sort of head on their shoulders, they wouldn't drive the story down that road just yet.
My apologies for the typos >< lol
I´ve also noticed this Rain person too lol and I think he/she just like to argue a lot jejejeje
wish I could upvote your remarks.
I was never able to find an english translation by any group. I put some of the info I've found and some of the work I've done on some of the chapters here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LLV2JBzAyhmVC9zB9mmo6S0qSsB819ps?usp=sharing
Thank you~~~(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
Awesome! Thanks!