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Does anyone have any good shoujo recommendations with strong female leads, like "Kill the Villainess"?
Something everyone has probably read already https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/death_is_the_only_ending_for_the_villainess/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/your_eternal_lies/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/second_life_of_a_trash_princess/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_price_is_your_everything/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/i_will_fall_with_the_emperor/
Darker stories
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/bitten_by_the_dog_i_abandoned/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/resetting_lady/
Thinking about the fact that the popularity of BL and the dislike of GL is rooted in patriarchy, since most people cannot imagine a relationship without a man involved
I’ve always thought the opposite, but more in the broader terms of female couples or male. I think I’ve always observed more disgust towards gay men than lesbians when it comes to homophobes. Since so much is dictated by the patriarchy and so many men like to watch things concerning two women I think it’s more normalized. Whereas they see two men and are disgusted simply because it’s not what they’re attracted to. Double standards
honestly kinda hate bl being my main my low attention span cant stick to gl unless its yuri most works i come across fall under these
-onesided bullied
-power imbalance forced
-oneside sexual harassment borderline yuri but we are girls here. who like being touchy feely
-they are not much more than friends
- doomed yuri
the actual onees. with good yuri and gl th3 hidden gems are. hard. to find so i switch back to bl quick
You see, men simply sexualise lesbian relationships. They still do not support them, they just get off on the thought of them. Whereas patriarchy tries to dictate it as "women cannot survive happy without a man at their side", which is why most of the GL works are made doomed or toxic. There is far more BL than GL, too, since plenty straight women fawn over the thought of two men being together. Lesbian couples are always overshadowed by gay ones in media. For example, look at this site. GL works are rarely updated and added, whereas BL works are constantly pouring out. I do not deny the fact that gay relationships are also fetishised by straight women, but more often than not, BL works garner more positive attention than GL ones.
Yes that’s the problem! GL works are extremely hard to find since people mostly ignore them, thus they cannot gain fans and are quickly cancelled. The fact that you can’t find anything good isn’t your fault, it’s the fault of the structure of our society and patriarchal views, as I explained in a different reply. It’s either sexualised, doomed or toxic stuff.
Hmm if we’re talking about stereotypes of GL having more toxic endings would it correlate to the number of men who write them? I admit I don’t know the statistics of male to female writers in GL but it makes sense that if men predominantly write them they would even subconsciously/or on purpose add those themes almost as a sabotage while fulfilling their fetish. Maybe it’s also because there’s so many female BL writers that they can often contain more positive or fulfilling endings? But it could also be because women in general are more predisposed than men to be accepting of the lgbtq+ community that BL (which are primarily consumed by women) receive more positive attention. In my personal opinion I think the female population is more forward thinking so I based it on that.
i thinkntrue in double standards straiight women might not always like seeiing 2 woman together cut it feels offf and ok with gaay men and vice versa someone where in between exists straight women with girl crushes on baddies but are straight
Tbh I think most BL fans who don't read GL simply aren't interested in GL rather than dislike it outright. I've even come across lesbians who say they prefer BL
Fandom culture and anything that is considered catered to women, typically centers around romantic relationships with men. That's why het and BL are more popular than GL. Most people who write romance are in this market.
I am an avid yuri enjoyer, I decided to check things out on the other front since bdsm gl is limited, but genuinely wtf am I reading rn Bro kidnapped you, raped you and hurt you, and now you’re helping him? Tf is this logic, they didn’t even have any fight or plot points that would’ve naturally, somehow, resolved all that bs. That big dude just said "darn I can’t kill that guy lol let’s keep him alive" and the other dude went "oh he left me alive okay ig I’ll forgive him for everything" it angers me so much why is the plot so bad Not to mention the size differences lol 90s yaoi ahh builds
Yeah sorry this is a pretty shitty story you decided to try ┗( T﹏T )┛
I recommend you check out a basic guide book to bdsm instead of this mess lol
Oh yay god if you want to read BDSM BL’s this is the worst possible choice you could've made
This isn't the worst possible choice of BDSM story, because it never had anything to do with BDSM, and I say this as a real member of that community. This is just a disgusting romanticization of abuse and rape.
I mean, it does have the toys and equipment which brought me here in the first place lol. The rest of it is pure rape, that’s true.
This story is a straight up BDSM fantasy, not a good representation of a proper BDSM relationship but a 100% immersive kink fantasy. This story is horrible but it is a BDSM story in the same way 50 shades of gray is and I say this as a real member of the community. No need to be a bitch ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Nah its bad even for a fantasy scenario lmfao
"No need to be a bitch" - no, let all those hoes out
Did I ever say it’s good? I haven’t praised this story ONCE since the beginning of this debacle, quite the contrary, so what’s the point of begin nasty to others on the internet? Take a breath, go out for a walk and don’t take it out on me
I don't understand how you can say "don't be a bitch", and then feel attacked by my own comment. Hilarious, you made my day.
If something triggered me it's that "tee-hee, let's not fight guys" ass attitude, at best. That's a personal ick of mine especially when it comes from hypocrites. Otherwise you're good. I'm all for spewing out your cringe on the internet.
You misunderstood. I don’t feel attacked, I just find that condescending know-it-all attitude annoying. You came at me spewing venom and trying to take out your anger on me by begin rude, how am I supposed to respond? It’s either straight up telling you to fuck off (which I did in the kindest way possible) or not responding at all (that would’ve been the better option looking back). I’m just at a point in my life where I respond to aggression with indifference, it’s not whatever “teehee” caricature you made up to make yourself feel better, it’s just me responding to you like it’s a chore (cause it sure feels like it). That’s all from me since you completely forgot about the original point of whenever this story is BDSM or not to focus on trying to use an internet stranger as a punching bag. Hope you sort your feelings out.
God this is so funny. I see you're misunderstanding that I'm misunderstanding you.
I'm glad both of us are reflecting on the way we chose to react/answer to one another. I need to frame this conversation or smth.