Rebho

Lmao someone's mad.

"Also, it’s not a reflection of the creator’s moral alignment or the fans moral alignment that they enjoy this type of story."

It most certainly does. Otherwise why would you enjoy this sort of thing in the first place? Hmmm? Think.


"What humans find hot can be so different from their moral compass/ real life and there’s so many studies of why that is"

Because in real life there's actually legal and social repercussions. Take those away and what do you think will happen?

You coming on to a different comment of mine to respond... someone’s a fan <3 Anyway what I said before still stands. Beyond all the arguments I could make to show why your take is wrong, your opinion is just juvenile and boring srry ╮(￣▽￣)╭

You're the one who came to my my comment first. I'm just returning the favor ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Lol, straight up ad hominem huh? Typical.

Fr like we aren’t all reading on illegal sites—who r we to judge what’s moral or not. Yaoi is fantasy made for women idk why ppl get pressed when the stories can be dark like just don’t read it lol

(๑•ㅂ•)و✧ Agreed

You read in illegal site ignoring the suffering of authors who barely made money irl and you want to talk about moral in fiction lmaooo get off your high horse.
Also by your logic every author who created murder story & those who enjoyed it means theyre excusing such behavior irl? Fucking funny.

Your @ is yaoiislife and it safe to assume youre aware a lot of yaoi story here includes rape/sexual assault/blackmail/psychological abuse, why did you read that at the first place, hmm?? Think.

"You read in illegal site ignoring the suffering of authors who barely made money irl and you want to talk about moral in fiction lmaooo get off your high horse."

Lolol. What kind of a stupid-ass logic is that? Does reading illegal manhwas now equate to having zero moral codes now? You people are cray-cray.


" Also by your logic every author who created murder story & those who enjoyed it means theyre excusing such behavior irl? Fucking funny."

That's dumb af. I don't remember those people depicting those murder scenes as porn material. I don't remember them thirsting for the murderers and getting turned on by the people getting killed, unlike what you people are doing in here right now to the rapist and the one being raped.

Then by your logic it's fine to read child porn as well right? No need to get bothered by it. It's cool then huh?



"Your @ is yaoiislife and it safe to assume youre aware a lot of yaoi story here includes rape/sexual assault/blackmail/psychological abuse, why did you read that at the first place, hmm?? Think."

Think. That's the exact point. I read so much yaoi that I know that this type of shit is not normal. Stories like this where rape is fetishized, the rapist is glorified and the one being raped is sexualized is not normal. Plus, I don't have the issue with the story. I more have an issue with people like you that enjoy it.

Stop bullshitting me with your "yOuR'e rEadiNg ThIs oN aN iLleGal sItE" and just admit that you have a rape fetish and you enjoy seeing that shit (〜￣△￣)〜

The point is, you keep talking about moral when everyone already know such behavior wont be excused irl when you also fully aware that reading in illegal site is also an immoral, cruel act against all authors, but you and us still doing it anyway. Why nit picking whats immoral & whats not when one is clearly fictional while this action is affecting real human being? But sure, go off about moral in fiction setting who would save literally NO ONE

Also, child porn are NOT the same with fictional porn. Claiming that theyre the same are harmful to real children, you can literally look it up in google that organization who protects children begging people to stop reporting case of fictional children drawing because that takes a lot of resources they could use on protecting real children. But this isnt what we’re talking about in here so keep your argument short.

Calling people have rape fetish for simply reading, not even into what the characters are doing in this story is so fucking weird, especially when you yourself still reading it anyway, like???? whats the difference between you and the rest who read this? You read so many yaoi and you STILL read them despite fully knowing a lot of these stories have fucked up aspect? Does that mean you have rape kink too buddy? Lmaooooooo

Lmao, so delusional.

"Also, child porn are NOT the same with fictional porn."

Oh it is. This is no different to fictional rape porn. I mean your people's logic is that since this is an illegal website and the story is fictional, to qoute you:

"everyone already know such behavior wont be excused irl"

"Why nit picking whats immoral & whats not when one is clearly fictional while this action is affecting real human being? But sure, go off about moral in fiction setting who would save literally NO One"

That means stuff like shota/loli is fine because you know, it's just fictional porn right? What makes it different from fetishizing children in fictional porn to fetishizing rape/rapists/rape victims in fictional porn? Or do you only draw the line of what's good or bad depending on what turns you on more?

Lol, I only ever read this shit once because I don't have this fetish. You on the other hand is definitely sticking around, glorifying the rapist, sexualizing the raped. It's sooooooo obvious that you're in to this shit lol. You're logic is truly stellar. Like holy shit man.

"whats the difference between you and the rest who read this?"

I'm not getting turned on by this shit nor am I enjoying it and spouting nonsense that it's fine to enjoy this because it's on an illegal website. I thought that was pretty clear bro.

"You read so many yaoi and you STILL read them despite fully knowing a lot of these stories have fucked up aspect?"

I've read a lot of them yes. By my rough estimates, only a very, very few percentage of those have aspects as fucked up as this. It's because this shit ain't normal.

You sounds so mad and so presumptuous of people you dont even know personally based on what they read is honestly so pathetic to watch i’m about to cry from laughing.

The way you keep thinking everyone reading this jacked off to this story but excuse yourself by acting like “oh i didnt enjoy this but i still read this, BUT ANYONE ELSE WHO READ THIS MUST BE ENJOYING THIS AND THEYRE ABSOLUTELY HARMFUL PEOPLE IRL AND NEED TO GET ARRESTED” wkwkkdjwkks mad hypocrite omg why r you so entertaining.

Hope you helped real children and csa survivor and everyone wronged by immoral behavior irl. But *gasp* you dont even care about the author wellbeing by reading in illegal site so maybe that’s too much to ask :(

Also it’s CSEM not CP. You can’t even identify shit properly and still want to sound so righteous i’m teared up. Go fictional characters defender go!!

Lol, you sound more mad than I am XD.

You're head is so far up in your ass that you can't begin to grasp how delusional and hypocritical you are. You keep repeating the same meaningless shit and twisting my words all for the sake to justify your rape fetish, lol. Lolol, admit it, you have a rape fetish. It's clear as day dear. Stop acting so innocent or something.You really enjoy seeing this shit So nasty lmao.

Also do you know people can see your read list & your topic here? It takes one click to see you read multiple rape, sexual assault, psychological abuse, blackmail, dubious consent, even incest & pedophilic stories.
You even commented on a few of them talking about how you like the characters & their dynamic lmao. Shouldve deleted those first before opening your mouth lol you dont wanna get caught “glorify” rapist after all

Who’s acting innocent here lmaoooo i’m not the one bookmarked rape stories in their list while trashing those who enjoyed the stories at the same time like you
Youre projecting so hard buddie i almost feel bad for making you become so defensive. Calm down and maybe reread that one incest, pedophilic themed story you bookmarked before that you claimed nasty & harming children wkwkwkwkwkwkkww oh god i’m about to tear up from this ongoing comedy show

Yeah lol you're a lost cause. You're someone arguing/fighting someone like me who just stated his dislike for fetishizing rape and those who enjoy it. That's already weird in itself. You keep dodging the arguments and not even trying to properly defend it anymore. Rape fetishist confirmed XD.

I sure hope none of your family amd friends get raped. You know rape, something that is normally horrible and traumatic for some is just a fetish and porn material for people like you

Man you're a riot (≧∀≦)

Buddie youre reaching so high you’d fall down hard. Just like murder is a crime, yet we still see people simping over villainous character, i cant say shit about those who enjoyed stories containing rape. These people knew these things stayed fictional and that’s enough. They’d cross the line if they excuse it irl, but in this comment section, both of us know nobody did that.

Honestly, I dont own you explanation but i’ve been in such situation you mention above, but people creating dark content arent responsible for my trauma nor invalidating it. It’d be different case if they use my personal experiences or irl people’s experiences in general, but they arent .

Another addition is, i’m asexual, terrified of the idea of sex, and dont jack off to porn of whatever form after multiple sexual assault done toward me. So if I may advise you, you should stop assuming shits about strangers in internet, because you too, wouldnt like being called rape fetishist, pedophile etc based on things you read and absolutely didnt condone irl arent you

Yeah, yeah sure. I am moropholic maybe that's why I'm sticking around here with you.

After everything you said and explained to me before, all this stuff you're saying right now? It doesn't carry any weight and have no credibility. It all sounds like a bunch of contradiction and bs to me ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Keep living in your delusional, hypocritical world babe (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Lmao you dismissed an actual csa survivor yet you keep going on about your high moral ground as if you helped any victim with such behavior. You read rape stories & literally bookmarked it yet i’m the hypocrite one for pointing out those who enjoyed doesnt mean they condone it irl?

Are you condoning pedophilia after reading https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kudou_sensei_no_majestic_days/ Which is sitting prettily in your reading list? Are you dismissing the experience of high school kids being groomed by their teacher? Are you a pedophile? See how ridiculous that accusation sounds?

How can you be thinking people who also read those thing are some sort of freak irl when you’re consuming the same material? Lmaoooo have a good day then rape fetishizer horny pedophile incest supporter noncon glorifier victim blaming promoter yaoiislife user <3

Yeah yeah, bring on the victim card. So typical.

"Are you condoning pedophilia after reading"

Oooooh definitely. I'm definitely condoning pedophilia. After I read that I went to tell people to fuck children because I read that. Isn't it wonderful? (Lmao, of all the things, that is the example you're using? XD)

Lolololol you maaaaad. Bye boo

Hi, op here. This made me laugh so hard omg ily

You’re just a bad person not worth explaining shit to

Awww T T

WKksjxskjd hello OP have a nice day ilyt <3

lmfaooo

Dude, just because you enjoy reading this kinf of stories, doesn't mean you are okay with murder or rape or that you want to participate in rape or murder, so the author wrighting this kind of story or people enjoying to read this kind of story does not mean we would want to be raped or that we don't understand what is right or wrong....

And just so you know, I read this kind of manhwas and mangas that have rape because I enjoy bdsm and rough sex, so I do not wanna be raped and I'm not okay with rape, it is an awful crime, and anyone who comits it should spend their live in prision so they don't do it again, that kind of crime lives an unforgettable scar on the victims...

So the kind of story that it is does not reflect our moral alignment. So many people see crime and dective series and movies or see ghost movies, the fact that they enjoy watching those movoes does not mean that they wanna go through what the characters went through or that they think that those kind of things are ok in real life...

So you think everyone is rich and has the money to buy every freaking chapter, when it's online too, I'm poor, I don't have the money for that sorry, I want to support the authors, but I just can't, and it's not like I'm in a country in which I can buy Manga or Manhwa in a Bookstore...and many of the people who upload the chapters in this website wait for 3 to 4 days to pass from the original release so that the authors can make money.

And on a different matter, Lezhin for example is a really expensive website... In other websites sometimes when I have money I purchase one or two chapters, but I jist can't do that in Lezhin because the chapters are too expensive...

If that is your opinion then you must think that paintings that have women and men nude or kids almost nude should be prohibited and should be considered something like porn?
Do you realize how stupid that is???? This is fictional, fictional characters that are not based on any real people, so it should not be criticized like that! The only art that has certain prohibitions like that is cinema because there real people involved, so it's like putting a face on the problem, on the characters and that could influence people. To comit crimes, but this does not!

There is so many things wrong in this answer of yours, but I'm just gonna say this: who the fuck do you think you are to say what's normal and what isn't? There is no crime comited here, and this is art, the only art that can be criticized like that, and that has limits in what can appear on it is cinema, this is manhwa, manhwas are drawings, paintings, and we can draw and wright everything we want! And so what if I like reading rape stories? It makes me feel better about my fucking life, because I see there persons in more despair that me. And it's a healphy way of dealing with your sexual desires, not because I want to be raped, I read this stories because O like bdsm and rough sex, and I enjoy reading complicated stories, psychological stories, it's no different from enjoying to watch horror movies!

Man, I don't know what age you are, but I bet you are young, because normally young people like under 18 are the ones that are that hypocritical ones xD

We don't have to justify our fetishes, ok? And whatever fetishes anyone here has, they do not mean thay we want to be raped or want other people to be raped.

Ahhhh, how can people be such jerks and not respect our rights to like whatever we wanna like? Seriously, once you stop being a brat and grow up and have contact with more different people and stop being a judgy son of a bitch that insults people in the internet, then you can come and discuss this kind of stuff because you have no serious arguments...

It's funny that now you are saying you condemn pedophilia even tho you read that manga, but we do not condemn rape and are probably rapists because we read this....

Totally agree (=・ω・=)

Btw, I'm sorry you had to through those traumatic experiences you were talking about, I hope you can get past them one day and be intimately with someone you love, because it's a wonderful thingヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~

i'm with the others about this, though. and i admit that i also read a few - no more like, a lot rape, pedophilia stories, i know how to differentiate between fiction and reality. what i read dosen't reflect upon what i do. i mean, ya'll don't see people with rape fetishes actually going around raping someone. it just shows that yes - maybe a few of them enjoy it but that's it. nothing more. they read behind a screen but don't actually do it in real life. and come on, the most important thing about this is actually not causing harm realistically. we all have our preferences, whether good or bad, but the point is, we know limitations and keeping those preferences to ourselves. and maybe you'll ask me, 'what if some of them actually inflict what they fetishize in real life. what about then?' lol i can't speak behalf all of those people because that's just plain wrong. point is, i'm just asking you to look at those who don't. it's not fair to instantly call someone disgusting based on what makes them happy because...they just...know when to stop, right? if what gives you pleasure isn't exactly deemed as appropriate, keep it to yourself and don't do it in real life. is what i'm saying?

Lol, have you even read that manga? It's the least best example/depiction of pedophilia.

"ya'll don't see people with rape fetishes actually going around raping someone."

I mean because there are laws? There's actual societal and legal repercussion if you do it in real life. It doesn't remove the possibility the one has the desire to do it.

My basic point was, which was has been repeatedly misunderstood and misinterpreted by most people is that I just find fetishizing rape and sexualizing the rapists and rapee disgusting. But somehow this is bad of me because I'm just being a toxic comment. Do you see the issue here? I expressed my disgust/discomfort for it by the people just discredit it because it's "just porn" and "it's on a illegal site" and that I'm just being toxic.

"but we do not condemn rape and are probably rapists because we read this...."

Your words, not mine ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Lmao, this is an interesting jerk circle you rape fetishists have going on here ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

"it's not fair to instantly call someone disgusting based on what makes them happy because"

There's a limit for that. It highly depends on what exactly is it that's making them happy. Necrophilia? That's pretty disgusting don't you think? Getting aroused by the situation of the tan uke here i.e. getting blackmailed and raped? I find it disgustimg as well.

You cherry pick quotes to make your points work but at the end of the day your argument still relies on that what people like in a fantasy is reflective of their morals in reality. No one is criticizing you for not enjoying stories with rape! If that’s not your thing that’s totally fine and hats off to you. However, you have essentially stated that people who make/ enjoy stories with these themes are implicit to rape/ rape culture. And they aren’t.
“I’m just being a toxic comment”
Everything wasn’t all that bad until you dismissed the actual experience of a victim in the replies. Before that, you were just a person with an opinion I disagreed with. Being a champion for “victims” in fictional works while reducing the experience of real people to a punchline is what makes you despicable. I hope you reflect on the important things and think about how you can enact change in your life to help actual people, but if you wanna keep fighting for fictional characters rights whatever.

You're criticizing me for expressing my discomfort and dislike for fetishizing rape and sexualizing rapists and the raped. That was my basic point but we are now at this point because you have interpreted my initial point as nothing more than just being a toxic comment.

Oh it was bad when I dismissed the actual experience of a victim? It's not like I didn't experience getting my crotch, chest, and ass groped by some random old dude and a woman on separate occasions.. . oh wait all those things did happen to me. But why didn't I bring it up here? Because I have no intention of using what happened to me as some sort of leverage to strengthen my argument. I just dislike people when they do this sort of thing. Plus, how sure are you anyway that that really happened? I mean it's so easy to fabricate lies especially in this context. That goes as well for what I previously said (although mine wasn't a lie but that depends on you if you believe it or not anyway).

Lol, I'm not fighting for these fictional people. I just sympathize with them because situations such as those have surely happened in real life and may still be happening and seeing it being treated as no more than just fapping material people for you guys just makes me physically uncomfortable to which all you devalue my criticism and issue just because 1. it is just fictional porn and 2. I'm on an illegal website. So yeah (〜￣△￣)〜

Not because there are laws, but because people know it's wrong, and they don't want to hurt other people... You just turn every words into shit... Seriously, I don't know you, but if do this with strangers, I imagine what you do with your friends or family when you are discussing things with them...

... I have no patience for a jackass like you...

There is no fucking limit...

Totally agree! (●'◡'●)ﾉ

Omg, how can you be trashy and cringe... I bet you are under 15 xD, maybe you haven't even had sex yet, because your opinion is the most uniformed opinion I have ever seen. You do not get to criticize and talk badly of things that you have no real knowledge of! Stop seeing and poiting out the flaws in others and see your own flaws, see yourself in the mirror for once, your attitude is like shit, so whatever your physical appearance is, I know are ugly on the inside at least... You are hypocrite...

Lol the same thing can be said to you honey. Your argument carries no weight. It's typical, boring, and basic. What even is this reply? It's weak as shit.

Have you actually read our comments? You're the one that isn't showing any good arguments that prove ours wrong, we have already presented you with so many, and instead actually saying arguments that refute ours, you just try to twist what we say, it's quite frustrating actually, it's like a poor person laughing at a sick person for they misery not seing their own misery

No, I definitely did not read it (⊙…⊙ )

Ay lmao, your arguments are total shite and it's frustrating that you don't see that. Lol, twisting what you said? You people just mad that your nastiness was called out by me.

If you really think I was wrong, why don't you try rebutting Lolipopcoca's comment then? That person's comment has eloquently encapsulated my issue with this manhwa and you people who enjoy it. Go on, prove me wrong by rebutting that person's comment.

It's not worth trying to explain something to you, do you even have eyes? Can you read? Please get your eyes checked out xD

You keep saying that same shit and yet you already did try to explain and yet you keep repeatedly doing the same meaningless arguments and don't event attempt to make a single meaningful one.

Omggg. This is some of the most petty and pathetic string of replies ever. A true testament of your mental age and ineptness.
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lol i'm sorry i just saw this and honestly, what i said came out the worst possible way ever. "ya'll don't see people with rape fetishes going around raping someone." lol gotta admit, what the fuck does that even mean. (i'm ashamed). i know there are laws so of course someone wouldn't even dare to commit a heinous crime like this. but isn't it a bit...arrogant for you to say that people with digusting shit running through their head just hold back to avoid going to jail? what about the people who enjoys story like these but actually find the idea of realistically raping someone repulsive without the thought of being behind bars included? like, there are a majority of people here that oppose to that idea just for the sake of it being simply...inhumane. not because they're afraid of getting thrown into jail (although that's included too lol) anyway, i wasn't really thinking when i posted that other comment because i just wrote immediately what came to mind and wasn't aware a full-blown discussion was happening.

i don't want to fight anyone huhu i'm crying- heck, i'm in desperate need of friends, actually. but anyway, to each their own, you know? gotta respect the opinions of others and i have no right to criticize that

"isn't it a bit...arrogant for you to say that people with digusting shit running through their head just hold back to avoid going to jail?"

Not as arrogant as getting mad at someone for expressing their criticism and dislike for fetishizing rape. It isn't arrogance. It's the truth. It's a real possibility. I'm not saying it's what everyone is but to say that it isn't possible is just as big of a lie.



"what about the people who enjoys story like these but actually find the idea of realistically raping someone repulsive without the thought of being behind bars included?"

You usually don't enjoy stories like this if you find rape repulsive in the first place.




" like, there are a majority of people here that oppose to that idea just for the sake of it being simply...inhumane"

I don't see that here to be honest. A majority of comments here can be roughly summed up and represented by these "oh tan big boy is gonna get fucked. Damn the Duke is really hot" basically they are enjoying what's happening to the tan dude and what's the Duke is about to do.




I don't even understand why being critical of fetishizing rape and rapists is considered toxic. I don't understand why you people devaluate my discomfort for seeing people enjoying this sort of shit and just say it's okay because it's just fictional porn. If it's that the case then why are so many people making a fuss when it comes to pedophilia and zoophilia then if it's just fictional porn?

**Claps at you**

Why would you think it's okay to enjoy rape scenarios even if it's fictional? It's just plain horrible. You can enjoy rough sex or other weird shit that are consensual but you feel aroused by rape? It's just wrong. And I'm not talking about BLs where rape is depicted as it is. A CRIME. Feeling uncomfortable with sexual abuse is just normal. It's not about morals or being right.

bro I swear these weirdos have some issues, there is no other way to explain being attracted to someone being abused.

Don't waste your time here. As you can see they made me a villain for disliking it because it's just "fIctIoNal pOrN" and apparently getting uncomfortable or upset by it or to the poeple who enjoy it is bad lol.

They won't admit but they enjoy this rape here because the rapist is hot and the one being raped is a guy. Make the rapist ugly or make the rape victim a woman and they'll surely not like this.

Because they're shallow af. It's only because the rapist is hot. It's all just pretty privileges I tell you but they won't admit it.

Bruv it’s because it’s not real not because he’s pretty omfg you are dumb. Also, who says people only read stories like this between men???? Expand your literature intake.

Again if you can’t separate reality and fiction don’t consume this kind of media. This argument implies that real life rapists get away with it because they are pretty and not because they are fucking rapists and victims are terrified for their lives.

Oh pleaaaaase. Would you honestly like reading this if the Duke looked ugly af? Probably not lol ╮(￣▽￣)╭