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217 July 22, 2015 2:31 am

-----*POTENTIAL SPOILERS*-----


So...I read the raws.
Somehow, I think Harada's psychopathic thoughts are starting to rub off at me.
Somehow....I felt so relieved after seeing the rape scene.
If that Yakuza guy fucks with Yoru too, Harada, I'm going to cry. I am going to cry so badly.

    Kami July 22, 2015 1:14 am

    fuck, please can you do not spoil? thanks
    i kind of figured out what you mean with "rape scene" even tho i didn't see the raws
    i love harada sensei, i understand you hug me

    217 July 22, 2015 2:30 am
    fuck, please can you do not spoil? thanksi kind of figured out what you mean with "rape scene" even tho i didn't see the raws i love harada sensei, i understand you hug me Kami

    Hi. Just added a warning, thanks for the input.

    ...Do you want me to hug you or...?
    If so...*hugs.*

217 July 16, 2015 1:01 am

Yep. Here comes the feels.

Does anyone else notice the foreshadowing lol.
I'M NOT READY.

217 July 16, 2015 12:58 am

MY GOD. WHAT IS WITH THIS HEART TINGING CHAPTER.
I pulled my hair so much while reading this chapter i'm probably going to be bald by the next.

So..the raws on MangaMint are really weird. I like how it jumps from Japanese to Chinese and the change in quality. I'll try to provide a quick translation/spoiler once I have time.

217 July 9, 2015 7:29 am

GUYS. THE WORLD IS ENDING. HARADA'S MANGA IS ACTUALLY NOT CRINGE WORTHY THIS TIME.


...I don't know why I'm so shocked.

    Mion July 9, 2015 11:52 am

    [SPOILER-ISH]



    YET. have you seen the raws? but yeah it's not as fucked up as Harada's usual stuff ahah

    Mion July 9, 2015 11:58 am

    oh btw I think there are 2 or 3 others from Harada-sensei that I saw on myreadingmanga that aren't so messed up as well. Unfortunately for us, they're not translated yet.
    I was shocked they were actually tagged as comedy ahah

    Soryu July 9, 2015 1:54 pm

    I know! I was like 'This must be a dopple ganger, this can't be THAT author! :O'

    217 July 9, 2015 11:28 pm
    [SPOILER-ISH] YET. have you seen the raws? but yeah it's not as fucked up as Harada's usual stuff ahah Mion

    NO I HAVE NOT. IS THERE A LINK?

    If the others are in Chinese, I could help translate o:.

    Mion July 10, 2015 12:00 am
    NO I HAVE NOT. IS THERE A LINK?If the others are in Chinese, I could help translate o:. 217

    You can find it on myreadingmanga (sorry mangago won't approve my comment right away if I paste a direct link)
    You'll find the other mangas I was talking about there as well. Just take a look at the tags (the ones that are tagged as comedy, romance, and NOT rape, etc). Ah I'm not sure if they have chinese scans tho :(

    217 July 10, 2015 12:04 am
    You can find it on myreadingmanga (sorry mangago won't approve my comment right away if I paste a direct link) You'll find the other mangas I was talking about there as well. Just take a look at the tags (the o... Mion

    Alright, thanks! :D

217 July 9, 2015 5:45 am

What do you guys think happened at the end? Suicide or accident?

In my perspective, I think he did kill himself. At the end where he smiled, it killed me so much inside. My thoughts are that he killed himself because there were no more boarders between them and their relationship. He thinks that he achieved the happiness he always wanted and hid, and wanted to end it that way. He probably knew that if something didn't change, society wouldn't look at them the same. I don't know how to quite explain it, but yea. (AND CAN WE JUST LOOK BACK TO WHERE THAT homeless man went "I knew it would turn out this way?" The powers of foreshadowing has never been so strong.)

The expression he had before he got hit by the truck just struck me in the chest so hard. At that point, I just went "Oh my god."
I think what I'm trying to say is that it portrays the thought of "dying while being in true happiness," and his expression expressed it so much. That look of "I love you." MAY SOUND CHEESY BUT HEY. No more regrets, no more burden. Only the fact that everything's now okay.

I don't know. His expression just spoke so much, but can't be explained.

    oh man July 9, 2015 5:50 am

    SPOILERS








    Yes he commited suicide. It's what's very sad about it. He obviously thought everything through even writing a suicide note and leaving a will for Takezou. :'( I still cant get over it. He finally admitted he loves Takezou but it's too late. T.T sniffssniffs

    217 July 9, 2015 6:08 am
    SPOILERSYes he commited suicide. It's what's very sad about it. He obviously thought everything through even writing a suicide note and leaving a will for Takezou. :'( I still cant get over it. He finally admit... @oh man

    SPOILERS ALSO.








    Actually, he didn't write a suicide note. He wrote a note, but it wasn't indicating anything and then he wrote that letter to his wife. He actually didn't admit that he loves Takezou, and Takezou only found out after his death when he received the letter.

    lyjii July 9, 2015 6:31 am

    suicide definitely - takezous anguish over it as he converses too (page 33 is the strongest indicator) as well as shinobus smile. Not to mention the slow step in front of the truck. Knowing his instability all long as well I find it hard to believe that, with someone like nakamura asumiko behind the writing, his death would end up so indiscriminate and with such seemingly odd timing.

    lyjii July 9, 2015 6:34 am

    and on all accounts i completely agree with what youre saying. the ending was so, so heartbreaking and i couldnt stop crying and rereading the last chapter as i tried to reason with shinobus intent and movements throughout the pages. i didnt think id end up so hurt by the end ;--;;

    217 July 9, 2015 7:26 am
    and on all accounts i completely agree with what youre saying. the ending was so, so heartbreaking and i couldnt stop crying and rereading the last chapter as i tried to reason with shinobus intent and movement... lyjii

    The first time I read this, I was crushed and I was down for the next few days. Since I have been following Nakamura's work, especially this and Copernicus, this was a huge blow to me. I probably read this manga 10 or more times.
    The thing that makes it so enticing is the development you get to witness through the chapters and how it actually ended. When I first began this manga, I thought that they would end up together. Having fought through their differences and hardships. I would have never expected something like this. Nevertheless, this is one of my favorite mangas of all time.

    Anonymous July 9, 2015 11:19 am
    SPOILERS ALSO.Actually, he didn't write a suicide note. He wrote a note, but it wasn't indicating anything and then he wrote that letter to his wife. He actually didn't admit that he loves Takezou, and Takezou ... 217

    Yeah that's why it's too late because he already admitted to himself that he loves him but never gave himself a chance to confess to takezou. That note can also be described as suicide note actually because he knew exactly what he's about to do after that. He repeatedly say it will be their last time/moment.

    lyjii July 10, 2015 12:28 am
    Yeah that's why it's too late because he already admitted to himself that he loves him but never gave himself a chance to confess to takezou. That note can also be described as suicide note actually because he ... @Anonymous

    i agree especially because shinobu keeps mentioning the last time. He was so dead set on it from the start and as things kept unfolding I think he felt it was appropriate to end everything on a good (?) note

217 July 7, 2015 11:38 pm

Hello.
Here is a summary of WHY Kuze made Kusakabe have sex with Azusa. Please read if you don't get it so you don't misunderstand. (SPOILERS.)
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The full raws on Baidu was recently taken down. Please look at the full raws before reading this when they come back up again. (If you haven't.)
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In the beginning when Kuze made Kusakabe see Karino and Azusa have sex, Kusakabe tried to tell the teacher on them after. He told Kuze "I can not just sit back." (This is probably because of the earlier conversation Azusa and Kusakabe had on the roof.) Then, of course, Karino comes up to them and says to Kusakabe "Letting the position of Jack get to your head to protect the princess(Azusa), you're really getting big headed. (To Kusakabe.) It turns out that Jack has a good relationship (with Azusa) and share the same goals. (To Kuze.)"

Since Karino is the king, he tells Kuze to grab a hold of Kusakabe and he has to listen. After Kuze grabs a hold of Kusakabe, Kuze asks him "Why have you not told me the things between you and Azusa?"
After that, Kuze told Kusakabe "You should receive punishment." (Kuze was jealous or mad that he did not know of their relationship since Kusakabe always attaches himself to Kuze.)

Before Kusakabe and Azusa started to have sex, he is saying to him "I'm sorry, I will not be/get better than anyone/I will not get ahead of myself , I'm sorry." He apologizes to Azusa because he thinks he is at fault on why this started in the first place. (Refer back to dialog with Karino.)
Azusa replies to him with "A little thing like this is nothing to mind."
(Then they have sex.)
After Kusakabe and Azusa finished with their little thing and Kuze hugs Kusakabe, he tells him "I will not give you to anyone."

At the end, the dialog is Kusakabe saying "My feelings are all messed up."

I hope this helps clear and misunderstandings. I'll try to explain more if someone still does not get it.
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Karino x Azusa does not have sex with each other when Kusakabe and Kuze was doing it. It was Kuze > Kusakabe > Azusa.

    Anonymous July 7, 2015 3:34 am

    Woah!!! Thank you for this (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    217 July 7, 2015 3:35 am
    Woah!!! Thank you for this (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ @Anonymous

    Welcome! :D

    BlazingShana21 July 7, 2015 4:34 am

    Wow !! Thanks for that !! Your a great help!! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Anonymous July 7, 2015 4:39 am

    Oh so it's not like Kuze really wanted to do that to Kusakabe it's just that Karino was being a huge douche to Azusa and made Kuza do it since everyone has to listen to the King. Still not cool though :(

    dummy July 7, 2015 6:22 am
    Oh so it's not like Kuze really wanted to do that to Kusakabe it's just that Karino was being a huge douche to Azusa and made Kuza do it since everyone has to listen to the King. Still not cool though :( @Anonymous

    eh I think Kuze was really okay with it since he thought he needed a punishment for daring to have friends

    LevixEren July 7, 2015 6:41 am

    You are awesome! Made my day! Thanks a lot

    Sakura-chan July 7, 2015 6:50 am

    Muchas gracias!!! ヾ(☆▽☆)

    Anonymous July 7, 2015 7:07 am
    Muchas gracias!!! ヾ(☆▽☆) Sakura-chan

    lol both Kuze and Karino are very jealous and overpossessive. Can we get back to Karino/Azusa because I am still very curious about Karino's obsession with Azusa. I don't think him being a virgin before doing it with Azusa was a joke either. That always struck me as how obsessive he must be over Azusa.

    217 July 7, 2015 11:38 am
    Oh so it's not like Kuze really wanted to do that to Kusakabe it's just that Karino was being a huge douche to Azusa and made Kuza do it since everyone has to listen to the King. Still not cool though :( @Anonymous

    Nope! Kuze was fully into it as well as he was either mad/jealous that Kusakabe and Azusa was getting along, and he never knew.

    217 July 7, 2015 11:39 am
    eh I think Kuze was really okay with it since he thought he needed a punishment for daring to have friends dummy

    I don't think that's the case! XD
    It seems like the problem was that Kuze just didn't know about it.

    217 July 7, 2015 11:39 am
    You are awesome! Made my day! Thanks a lot LevixEren

    You're welcome! :)

    217 July 7, 2015 11:40 am
    Muchas gracias!!! ヾ(☆▽☆) Sakura-chan

    De nada!

    217 July 7, 2015 11:46 am
    lol both Kuze and Karino are very jealous and overpossessive. Can we get back to Karino/Azusa because I am still very curious about Karino's obsession with Azusa. I don't think him being a virgin before doing i... @Anonymous

    Where was it mentioned that Karino was a virgin? o: The raws for chapter 8 on Baidu was taken down recently. I always see Karino as just a really cruel person xD. I can just see him throwing Azusa away ; w ;...

    Anonymous July 7, 2015 3:31 pm
    Where was it mentioned that Karino was a virgin? o: The raws for chapter 8 on Baidu was taken down recently. I always see Karino as just a really cruel person xD. I can just see him throwing Azusa away ; w ;... 217

    Yes Karino is very cruel. Did he say something to Azusa in the end after the treesome ? I don't remember.
    If only Azusa were the illegitimate son of a powerful politician or businessman and his real father recognised him it would be great. This child needs to be loved

    Kate July 7, 2015 4:07 pm

    I think Kuze don't mind Kusakabe having sex with Azusa because what really matters to him are Kusakabe's feelings, not his body, so to speak. And that's what really annoyed him and made him agree with all this thing: Kusakabe getting closer to Azusa and trying to protect him.

    PS.: Sorry for any mistakes, English isn't my native language.

    LevixEren July 7, 2015 4:29 pm
    Where was it mentioned that Karino was a virgin? o: The raws for chapter 8 on Baidu was taken down recently. I always see Karino as just a really cruel person xD. I can just see him throwing Azusa away ; w ;... 217

    It mentioned on chapter 1. Kuze told azusa that karino look like a viegin. That's why azusa called him virgin at first. Oh yeah, can you let us know what short of conversation that kusakabe & azusa have at the rooftop? I learned that the raw is being taken down. Not full raw anymore

    217 July 7, 2015 11:24 pm
    It mentioned on chapter 1. Kuze told azusa that karino look like a viegin. That's why azusa called him virgin at first. Oh yeah, can you let us know what short of conversation that kusakabe & azusa have at ... LevixEren

    I would love to, but that will have to wait until the full raws are released again. (I honestly can't read the raws that were posted on Facebook, I'm sorry!)

    LevixEren July 8, 2015 4:27 am
    I would love to, but that will have to wait until the full raws are released again. (I honestly can't read the raws that were posted on Facebook, I'm sorry!) 217

    I noticed that the letter were too blurry to read. It's fine. Just curious. Guess I have to wait they release the chapter again. I thought you work on this manga

    LevixEren July 8, 2015 4:28 am
    I would love to, but that will have to wait until the full raws are released again. (I honestly can't read the raws that were posted on Facebook, I'm sorry!) 217

    Thanks :)

    217 July 8, 2015 8:19 pm
    I noticed that the letter were too blurry to read. It's fine. Just curious. Guess I have to wait they release the chapter again. I thought you work on this manga LevixEren

    Yep! Not sure why it was taken down though, sucks > <.
    Nope! I actually replied on the other topic by Rain at the end that I was not associated with the group that picked up this manga. What an honor to be thought so though xD!

    Anonymous July 9, 2015 4:49 am

    *kneels down before you* TY!

    217 July 10, 2015 1:18 am
    *kneels down before you* TY! @Anonymous

    Welcome.

217 July 6, 2015 9:47 pm

After reading the Chinese raws, I no longer know anyone's names in this manga.
Someones name was 久世君(JiuShi Jun) but in Japanese it's Kuze-kun. In my mind = "The hell is Kuze." Never mind that though.

Anyways,
the thing about this chapter is that there are a lot of foreshadowing included, which you need to be able to read to be able to understand it.
What bothered me the most was the ending where Karino and Azusa started to do their thing. When Kusakabe asked Kuze why he did that, Kuze replied with "Because I don't want to give you to anyone."
I mean. The hell.
HOW IS THAT "NOT GIVING YOU TO ANYONE."
After that, the last sentence was Kusakabe saying "(All) My feelings are messed up."

I don't want to read this anymore. T T

    Anonymous July 6, 2015 10:19 pm

    Thank you for your explanation. I can understand why kuze showed kusakabe the love making scene between karino and Azusa but I don't understand why the semes let their respective uke having sex

    LevixEren July 6, 2015 10:27 pm

    First of all thanks for the explanation as I don't read Chinese. I think kusakabe might like azusa whether in friend way or something else. That's why he said his feeling all messed up? It might be that because kuze want kusakabe not befriend with azusa (or fall for him) kuze showed him the scene of karino x azusa

    Gawd! I make too much guess. When c.9 come out?

    217 July 7, 2015 3:31 am
    Thank you for your explanation. I can understand why kuze showed kusakabe the love making scene between karino and Azusa but I don't understand why the semes let their respective uke having sex @Anonymous

    Hello! I have started a new topic and explained it a lot more there! :D Please read it as it explains waaayyy more than this topic!

    217 July 7, 2015 3:32 am
    First of all thanks for the explanation as I don't read Chinese. I think kusakabe might like azusa whether in friend way or something else. That's why he said his feeling all messed up? It might be that becaus... LevixEren

    Hello! I have started a new topic that explains thoroughly (not really) on why they made the two have sex. Please read it as it provides a lot more details! :D

    Chapter 9 will be coming out at the end of this month, or the beginning of the next.

    LevixEren July 7, 2015 6:37 am
    Hello! I have started a new topic that explains thoroughly (not really) on why they made the two have sex. Please read it as it provides a lot more details! :DChapter 9 will be coming out at the end of this mon... 217

    Sure thanks!!

217 June 23, 2015 9:20 pm

Read it once, hated her. Read it twice, still hate her.

217 June 20, 2015 3:21 am

So I read what happened in the comments and decided to take this manga up and read it.
The first chapter I actually enjoyed. Then I moved onto reading the raws.
The thing is, I really liked how the characters are designed out to be and their past etc etc, but the plot was quite weak so I was a bit disappointed.

A lot of people may disagree with me, but I just think that the plot was too rushed.
First of all, I would like to say that it is 100% not okay to abuse someone for any reason they may have. It just feels like...the mangaka skipped so many parts in explaining Kan and Yumi. I would have liked to know a little bit more on Kan and Yumi's part.
A little insight on the raws: All about Mayama and Yumi. Yw.
On a site note, I'm not bashing on this manga at all, I just wished there was a little more to it.

At this point I would usually give a summary on the raws, but since it is already provided by someone in page 2, enjoy.

    pewpew July 9, 2015 11:02 pm

    Yeah :O I want to know Kan and Yumi's past too. I'm pretty sure something happened to provoke Kan to make awful choices, but at the same time sort of understandable why he became abusive.

    217 July 9, 2015 11:27 pm
    Yeah :O I want to know Kan and Yumi's past too. I'm pretty sure something happened to provoke Kan to make awful choices, but at the same time sort of understandable why he became abusive. pewpew

    Yep. I wished they got into it and explained it more :/.

217 June 18, 2015 7:18 pm

...Am I the only one who enjoyed this...?
This is actually one of my favorite Yaoi manga's :x... //Shamed.

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