Please do not bash Kaji-san too bad. He has a reason to contact Natsume-san and Kitagawa-san. He is a good guy, although sometimes he is blunt and says whatever is in his head. We must remember that Natsume-san and he were in love before. Natsume-san wouldn't fall for a bad man. And it was Kaji-san who ended it, not Natsume-san, meaning by the time they broke up, Natsume was still in love with him. We are trying to bring you this as fast as we can. Until you read the end of this book, try not to throw Kaji-san to the trash bin. (ﾉﾟ0ﾟ)ﾉ~ Remember to be kind. Your comments are much appreciated.
Can I dump the glasses guy to the trash bin tho (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
From the scanlation group, the answer is Yes, this story has a happy ending. (｢`･ω･)｢ So hang in there with Kakeru!
I LOVE YOU, THANK YOU T.T
Omg yay I'm so happy thank you for the translation TT
omg in the verge of crying... i feel so bad for him
If you all hate it, should we stop uploading the remaining chapters?
i like this manga so please don’t stop uploading it.
No... Please keep upload the next chapters (๑•ㅂ•)و✧, why people hate it, this is just getting into good part for me
WHAAAAT NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR UPLOADING IT, I WAS SO RELIEVED WHEN YOU STARTED.
It’s because I loved Yonemura-san in the prequel, and the story has its problems, bur that’s just what the people are pointing out because it’s there. But I’d feel a great sense of loss if I wouldn’t be able to read it to the end. I’m still hopeful for the story, even if it ends up being just a slip up by the author.
Please
NOOOOO! PLEASE DONT! IM. VERY. VERY. THANKFUL FOR THIS UPLOADS!. thankyou for uploading ╥﹏╥
Noo thank you for your great work
That's petty. You know good and well that people enjoy it. 82.2% of the people gave it 4 stars and up even though there are only 3 chapters. To have them beg for more chapters because your hurt that a manga that you didn't write was getting some hate no not even hate just people discussing their opinions about the story. That's a new level of petty. I haven't read it yet so i don't have an opinion but i see people genuinely are loving this manga. People are obviously invested in the story which is causing discussions. How did you jump to the conclusion that no one wanted to read it.
Sorry if i misunderstood or made shit worse but that seems so petty to me
why would we hate it?
I’m with you, I don’t see any hate comments about this manga but maybe they’re looking at the people that are confused.
Ah don't please! I appreciate your time to upload this and very very like this stories!
Yeah like don't get me wrong I appreciate all translators and cleaners, basically the people who commit to providing manga for other but this seems so pettu to me.
i mean petty but im illiterate
Whaat nooop, i just got hook up on this manga
Sorry I scrolled down to read every comments and the major clearly enjoy this story, many discussed about the plot and it mean they really love it included myself, so I would be grateful if you continue to upload the rest chapters
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wow. just because someone say they hate it(Although i didn't see one) you can't accept their opinion? you're more focus on" hate story comment" than who loves the story? that's why. you ask and thinking that you gonna stop it? even though the majority enjoying the story. you're so petty you know? i dont know if you just want attention because you use that tactics to caught the attention of reader or your just joking and teasing us but that not a good joke for us who follow the story and suddenly be dropped/stopped for that petty reason.
sorry for being rude but im really offended to what you ask. :) majority love this and yet you think that way? so that hate comment is much appreciated in your thought that you think that way. also you gave favorable situation to hate comment than those person who leave their opinions and thoughts about the story, those who appreciate this story and those who really wait longer to read this story. ok i get it, now i know how biased you are towards who appreciate the story than to those who doesn't like it. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
we appreciate your work but be reasonable when you gonna drop/sto this or have a valid reason before you say something like that, that's a rude question to ask to those who most appreciate and love this story.
Sensei already finished the story even before the books were printed. Way back, in the first page of the "topic pages", I already gave away the 2 covers of the books and said that Hotaka ended with Masato. So I don't even understand where the Chika x Hotaka ship came from... People are so weird.
Chika is a rapist and a molester... In court, he would certainly lose the battle and went to jail. :) But of course, we cannot apply it to the yaoi world or half of the seme population would be thrown in jail.
Just my two cents. :)
Oh, and I don't hate him, btw. I feel sorry for Chika. I can understand why he did what he did, and I also understand why Hotaka let him, or why Masato interfered and did what he did as well. Instead of flawless, Asou Kai's characters are full of flaws. They are imperfect in so many ways. Human beings. They make mistakes, and then they repeat the mistakes, or make more mistakes afterwards. They cried, they forced, they surrendered to lust and greed... That is what makes the stories unique. :)
And in the first and second chapter, clearly there would be no future for the Chika x Hotaka ship. Chika had to marry the girl his parents already chose for him. They want him to have children, and Hotaka would not have a place in that family.
Research first before commenting, please. There are 2 volumes to this series, not 1. Second cover is Masato x Hotaka, so that in itself already reveals who Hotaka is going to end up with!
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I didn't see it coming! Thank you for the info. Hotaka × Masato for the WIN.
He already married that is unfair for Hotaka and his own wife and kids.
There is one hand holding Hotaka hand on a second cover if you look at the image closely. That mean the possibility of a love triangle might be strong on a second volume.
Wanna bet? *grins*
Happy new year from Shinmakoku! Please relax and wait for the continuation. Asou sensei is not inactive, she just works slower due to the hand injury she suffered. The series is on going, the last chapter (no.4) came out just last summer. This is a doujinshi, not a regular series, so chapters will be released in uncertain times. ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Thank you so much for letting us know. & I know we're all just tremendously grateful that Asou-sensei is still gracing us with her work, despite her hand injury! (And, of course, grateful to all the scanlators as well!)
We reuploaded page 32. There was no "promise" though, so we don't know what "promise" it was. But we guess it was something about "listening". (〜￣△￣)〜
Shinmakoku Scanlations would stop uploading Kiga au to iu koto wa and 1+1+1 into MangaGo for the time being, considering so many people hate the stories and hate that we are very slow. ^^ So we are not uploading/updating these anymore for you. Thanks for your comments.
Hmm ... I don't know if this will help, but I wasn't expecting the manga to be a series of open-ended one-shots, and the confusion was worsened by the way the first story was uploaded, mistakenly identified as an extra, which implies that there is more to it. Open endings are a tricky thing for readers to assimilate even when they are emotionally prepared. If the reader doesn't know this open end is coming, the feeling is of being left hanging indefinitely in wait for the mangaka's resolution, and there can be a backlash of resentment directed at the poor scanlator who's just translating the book as is. That was exactly what happened and it was unfair. Shinmakoku is one of the better teams out there and provides many of the best projects, so they definitely don't deserve to be criticized for a manga they didn't write.
The next thing is the series of stories, itself. Asou Kai is one of the best mangaka in the business and she rarely releases something that isn't hugely popular. It's risky of her to put something out that messes so much with the romance formula, particularly the happy and satisfying resolution, especially with the ghost story. Most people pick up an Asou Kai story expecting it to be sweet and leaving readers with a gentle, warm feeling afterwards. The summary now states what the story is about, but that was added later.
So somebody botched the upload and the summary. That was neither Shinmakoku's fault, nor Asou Kai's, but the uploader's. I don't know what sort of thinking went to it. Did this person think it would be funny to rile up readers, a sort of practical joke? If Shinmakoku is dropping the project, that definitely backfired. Or was it just clumsiness and inexperience?
Shinscans uploaded all the chapters into mangago themselves. The 2 stories are done by different translators, and thus the scanlation team work based on the speed of these said translators. If one translator is faster than the other, then the release is faster, too.
So these stories are 2 different projects, so to say. They just happen to be in the same book, and they will be released chapter by chapter. People should learn to be patient. :( Scanlators are not paid, after all.
Anyway, they will stop uploading this on MangaGo (the other projects will continue as usual) due to the hate comments the readers posted. There are so many complaints as you can see. Kiga au to iu koto wa will still be released in ShinScans personal LJ comm as private downloads for members only. ^^
Well, the extra is mislabeled, and it has given people the mistaken impression that there was more of this story to come. That needs to be changed, whether it can be done by the person who uploaded it or by the admin.
The next thing that should be handled is that the summary needs to tell readers that these are two one-shots, there is no continuation for those stories, and this was what Asou Kai intended. That may draw off some of the hate right there.
I'm sorry to hear that Shinmakoku has been upset by this. There have been an awful lot of trolls on Mangago lately, and a lot of sock-puppet accounts created for the sake of manufacturing the appearance of a consensus which doesn't exist. You could probably eliminate the comments of anyone who doesn't sign in as being trolls. The truth is, there has always been a strong core group of readers on this site who do not support censorship. The rest are probably trolls with sock-puppet accounts.
I should also mention that a lot of those trolls don't even read yaoi. They just come here to slut-shame yaoi readers and crusade against non-con.
Well, as only a part of the team, there is nothing I can do about the decision. I just feel sorry that the readers won't know the ending of these stories. 1+1+1 has a really beautiful ending.
So that isn't the end of the story, then? It doesn't have an open ending.
That makes a huge difference.
Nope. Both stories have endings. 1+1+1 is a long one shot, 80 pages in total. （￣へ￣） It is divided into 2 parts to give more time for the scanlation team to do other projects and live their lives in between releases.
Okay ....... See, I've always understand a one-shot as being when the story is finished by the end of a single chapter. What you are describing is a manga with two, maybe more, distinct stories, each of which arc over a couple or more chapters. So, now I'm learning that neither one of them is open-ended, and neither one of them is technically a one-shot. (If there are more than a single chapter to a story, it's at least a two-parter, because the break in between chapters acts as a sort of "intermission" within the story.) Hence the confusion. Now I learn that they are multi-chaptered stories and not open-ended. So scratch everything I wrote about needing a new summary and ... well, the order of the chapters is still very confusing with the extra right at the start.
The trolls will be happy to learn they've succeeded in chasing off Shinmakoku.
1+1+1 is not an extra. As I have stated above, Kigaau and 1+1+1 each stand on its own, the only similarities lay in the author (they were created by Asou Kai) and that both are put into the same book. They are 2 separate projects done by Shinmakoku, hence which ever comes out first doesn't really matter. The readers should treat them as 2 different manga. Asou Kai sensei almost always put 2 or more different stories in one book. Kigaau and 1+1+1 were serialized in DIFFERENT magazines, published by DIFFERENT companies.
Kiga au to iu koto wa was serialized in magazine BeXBoy published by Libre, and 1+1+1 is by Hanaoto comics. The whole book was compiled and published under Hanaoto comics.
sorry but i have a question.so you guys not gonna upload the updates on this site or you'll stop upload it on every mangareading site?
On all sites. The updates of this manga will only be visible to members of our community on Livejournal. ^^ No one outside of the community will be able to read it.
but you guys not gonna banned all your future project, right?
cuz i anticipated jibun katte, your future project.
so please don't do that theres still pure souls in this site LOL
p.s it was a shame bout what happen here..hope things like this never happen again.fighting! ^^
Nope. (▰˘◡˘▰) We're too nice for that, unlike some people here.
I feel so sad coz I won't know how this two story gonna end. I like this story. I know it's really a hard and difficult job about translating coz I have done it for sometimes even if not for manga. But thank you for translate this manga even I won't know the ending.
You know, a majority of the people on these site don't even understand about scanlators. They just think fairies magically fart completed chapters out of their ass. As someone whose been on an appreciative reader for10+ years I think I'll express some of my gripes about you scanlators. The hundreds of stories never finished. Have you seen the person uploading chapters that were languishing on their computer because their group couldn't get their shit together. Again these are stories that will never be finished. Or groups like Fushichou that release twice a year stories that are over 10 years old. Fantasy Shrine may not release a lot but when they do, it's the whole volume. And don't get me started about the hoops some of you guys make us jump thru. Yes I'm talking to you. When you closed your group and made the condition that we had to write an essay on our love of yaoi. Not giving two shits how that could affect some of our lives, such as jobs looking into what you post on your social media page or friends and family. The stories and art have progressed leaps and bounds from several years ago, and the main majority read online instead of downloading because of tablets and phones. If you aren't translating for the love of it and to share your passion, then go back to your corner and go pout and suck on your thumb like Kashinosei. Yes many make shitty comments on here but that's how it is online. Scanlators and readers are different species. I've seen translators make rude comments about other's work. So grow a thicker skin and do it because you love it or just drop it and move on like all the other groups dying out.
Let's get this straight:
(1) Shinmakoku artificially chopped two completely different one-shot stories from magazines into random chapters (for the sake of alleviating some pressure on its overworked scanlators, which nobody has a problem with), and uploaded the opening fragments of two unrelated stories while still calling them "one-shots" even though they no longer are? Technically, once they are divided into chapters, even if it wasn't the mangaka's division, they are multi-chaptered stories, so why are they still labelled as one-shots?
(2) Readers, led to expect that the chapter fragments were the full story because they were mislabeled as one-shots, and led to expect that they would be reading typical soft-sell Asou Kai romances which always end happily, were left hanging at serious and unsettling plot-chasms instead? As such, I complained. I completely understand why other readers did as well. There's the source of your backlash right there.
(3) Having bungled the upload, the description summary, the general debut of these two completely unrelated stories which shouldn't even be under the same title and opening web page, and attracting this backlash from disappointed readers, Shinmakoku Scans is now pitching a first-rate hissy fit and pulling out of the mangareading sites because we are so "Ungrateful."
Well .... yeah. I haven't read any comments ever saying that readers are ungrateful for the scanlations. Far from it.
Readers are upset because the stories were (and still are) mislabeled, poorly summarized, incorrectly uploaded and left at open ended resolution points which really suck. That's a totally different matter.
In addition, because Shinmakoku reacted so poorly, readers are now pissed off because the scanlators don't even see where they caused these problems to begin with, and are throwing their egos around because of it. This puts readers in an impossible situation: act like suck-asses and join the LJ to read the rest of two stories which don't seem very promising from the place where they were dropped, or show some self-respect and drop Shinmakoku. Was this what Shinmakoku wanted all along? A bunch of insincere shit-lickers as followers?
So, the question is what are you going to do about this, Shinmakoku? You did have a nice little fan-base going here, a real one who wasn't the least bit phony about their feelings. Is that how you treat them? If you drop your anger, hurt feelings and egotism for a second, and just look at the situation, I bet you could figure out a better way to handle this.
Or not. In which case, I officially stop giving an eff.
We are not accepting new member on our LJ comm. we have stopped accepting since 2 years ago, and we will not change. No new members will be allowed. Only old members can read and download.
And speaking of sulking. LOL.
Anyway, this has always been Shinmakoku's way of handling things. We divide big chapters into smaller ones and call them "parts". We did it for So no te de and Square na Kankei. So this is not "new" or that we did it to piss off people. 1+1+1 is a long one shot, 76 pages long not counting the publisher's notes, so we cut it on page 39.
Kiga au has 3 chapters. Not parts, but chapters. You really should see the raws before you comment.
Our motto is not to scanlate for free, or even for fun. We scanlate for our community, and only those people within our circle is allowed to read. After we closed our doors 2 years ago, many people asked us to share more, since they could not read the projects and they could not join the community anymore. We decided to share through MangaFox, and lately to MangaGo. But now I think that we should go back to being a closed scanlation group. Just my thought, tho'. The team will decide later. Even if we decide to release Kiga au later on to MangaGo, it is not because of you complainers, but mostly because there are still fans of our works in here that would love to read the series. I guess you complainers will still come back and read them, even after spending time bashing our heads onto the wall... Respect, people, respect.
Frankly, given that this mess was your fault, I don't really care if you come back or not. Is that clear enough for you?
Actually, it was your fault for assuming and making up comments without knowing the facts. LOL. I keep correcting your mistakes and pointing you to the facts. Oh, well. Look who's sulking now?
You have a closed LJ, and are not looking for new members. Fine. That was a mistake and I'm sorry about that ... except not really. Good for you to shut yourself off from the broader yaoi-loving community and surround yourself with sycophants and obsequious toadies. That always works out well. Especially when they get bored and find new yaoi groups and other projects.
Now, what about the rest of the things I identified?
(1)The incorrect upload.
(2)The mislabeling of a multi-chaptered story as a one-shot.
(3)The open-ended cliff-hangers left to look like finished and completed stories.
(4) The ego-tripping "We're taking our ball and leaving" when readers reacted negatively to the cut-off points.
You still don't see where your actions and reactions fed any antagonism. You still want to make this about ingratitude. It wasn't. It was about two stories that were misrepresented as complete and chopped off at the worst possible climactic moments. Readers didn't like them and had the perfect right to say so. After all, they were led to believe BY YOU that the stories were one-shots and there would be nothing further, and they didn't like the ways they ended. That's where the complaints initially came from, and it would've been easy enough to placate readers by a quick comment saying "Hang on, more is coming. They aren't complete."
Instead, when you sulked and pitched a fit, readers were reminded of what they don't like about scanlation groups instead. So, not the best way of dealing with readers. Not if you want them to think, "Look at the quality projects Shinmakoku puts out." Just like I used to.
Why am I here? LOL. It's because everytime we scanlate a project, it is very amusing to see readers' reactions. All your comments are welcome! A book is only good when it can ignites the readers emotionally. This one ignites so many people in so many ways! (⑉⊙ȏ⊙) Bad or good, it's okay, so keep them coming. We let Nakata Akira sensei know all of your opinions, and we think that Book 3 will continue on to Book 4 thanks to megane-kun over there. ヾ(*’Ｏ’*)/ She reads all these comments, too, haha.
That said, we had a talk with her about Natsume-san. Natsume-san is a control-freak. He has a bad habit of not listening to others and then fights by himself, also decides things by himself. This frustrates not only Kitagawa-san but also Tomita-san. ✧(>o<)ﾉ✧ So Natsume has to change. He has to be able to stop, shut up, listen to other people, communicate with them properly, and then decide on what to do TOGETHER. The change will have to come slowly, or it will be too fast for the pace of this book! On the other hand, Kajiwara-san, as he said, is similar to Natsume-san. He doesn't listen, and he decides things by himself. He blabs on and on, missing the points that he has to say early on, making misunderstandings along the way. (┛✧Д✧))┛彡┻━┻
Natsume-san is changing... And so Kajiwara-san is amazed by it. He wants to change, too. This book is all about the changes. It is slow and painful and frustrating to read. But judging by how many comments we get in a day, it's good, no? ( ･﹏･) Watch out for Tomita, tho'. Sensei hasn't said anything but I think Book 4 will go back to the second couple. Let's wish it, shall we?
Now I am going back to work. (｡•︿•｡) Keep the comments coming.
thank you so much for scanlating this great work! and i agree especially about natsume! I don't agree with his ways as of now cause he has been trying to solve problems by himself, not even assuring his partner before he stubbornly sets on something himself. it's okay if he's stubborn though but he lacks communication skills! he keeps his intentions hidden from kitagawa almost all the time and it's frustrating cause kitagawa has always laid bare his feelings and wants to natsume himself. im glad this is not yet the end cause i need more of natsume's development. i do think kitagawa has room to improve but imo natsume definitely has lots more. it'd be sad if I don't see him relying on kitagawa with my own two eyes hahaha
sorry i made it seem that i hate natsume i dont dislike him but it really rubbed me the wrong way how he sheltered kita so much and thought that everything he did was the right way to go about things. I'm okay with the slow pacing but i feel like there's few to no repercussions to their actions at all. and sometimes the resolution is surface level. i still really like the work though!
thank you again for your hard work and efforts