Like wth, I hope the old, blonde brother (whatever his name is) goes to jail or preferably hell. I hope ren realizes how effed up this situation is and finds a lovely man his AGE and not his adoptive brother. I just don’t understand how you all can read this, and say that “this is amazing! I want more fluff!” it’s horrible truly. Do better.
guRLLLLL, then about the fact that u judge those people who read this??? guRL we have our own preferences, so bACK oFf. lol jory
Yea ur preferences are illegal. It’s creepy, we gotta to acknowledge that this is wrong. Trust me I used to love this stuff too so the comment I wrote is also a personal attack lol.
illegal??? creepy??? maybe for u, but that's for us to decide.¯_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ jory
Maybe for me? Uhhh laws? Ren is a minor in like multiple countries. There’s no justification for any of this. If ren was a girl it would be different right? But he’s a guy and he’s gay so fujoshi’s eat that shit up.
Maybe for me? Uhhh laws? Ren is a minor in like multiple countries. There’s no justification for any of this. If ren was a girl it would be different right? But he’s a guy and he’s gay so fujoshi’s eat ... XxEunoiaxX
Honestly whoever you are, stop wasting ur time to respond to me if you don’t have anything reasonable to say.
Well of course everyone has their own opinion in certain things, I do agree with some things you say but now with everything. I still find it a cute story and enjoy it (kinda am bothered that Ren is a minor but I don’t really care and tho if it was a yaoi I’d be bothered a lot). The same age rule is broken in so many manhwas/ manga but their fictional and for others entertainment, not even in just BL but hetreo manhwa/manga too. And keep in consideration that some people have parents who have large age gaps who are doing perfectly fine so they might be perfectly fine with this.
Well of course everyone has their own opinion in certain things, I do agree with some things you say but now with everything. I still find it a cute story and enjoy it (kinda am bothered that Ren is a minor but... JankenIku
I used to relate. When I was obsessed with yaoi for a while I saw a ton of age gaps. Ex: hitorijime my hero. And I just went along with it because I thought the characters were “so cute so I didn’t care” and then as time went on I realized how fucked that situation is. Anyways nuff said w that... I feel like in this case that age gap excuse can’t be used because it’s not like their 25 and 31. That kid isn’t even legal in the slightest. He can’t consent and they shouldn’t be kissing either.
I used to relate. When I was obsessed with yaoi for a while I saw a ton of age gaps. Ex: hitorijime my hero. And I just went along with it because I thought the characters were “so cute so I didn’t care” ... XxEunoiaxX
Tru. But I searched it up an current age is 16 and 24 so 8 years. That isn’t too bad, my best friend parents age difference is 12 years, I never thought that was weird and actually normal. Of course I can’t relate my parents are 2 years apart. It depends on which situation, I’m not trying to fight about who’s right, again this is opinion. But I don’t think you should say everyone who likes this manga is sicking since everyone has a different view :)
Tru. But I searched it up an current age is 16 and 24 so 8 years. That isn’t too bad, my best friend parents age difference is 12 years, I never thought that was weird and actually normal. Of course I can’... JankenIku
I think it’s not up to pov because in this case it’s very much illegal. It’s different when two of age, consenting, adults can date. I see what ur getting at and I don’t think an age gap of 12 years is weird as long as they both are adults. However ren is a minor. That excuse doesn’t work here. And yes the readers of this are sickening for having a preference of reading this. This is wrong. Stop attempting to justify this. :)
I think it’s not up to pov because in this case it’s very much illegal. It’s different when two of age, consenting, adults can date. I see what ur getting at and I don’t think an age gap of 12 years is ... XxEunoiaxX
Also I think yaoi is wrong in general, shounen ai is so much better. And yes I can’t stop anyone from reading it. But what I can do is call out the predatory behavior and rape shown commonly in this genre. I won’t give this a pass anymore. It’s putting a negative stereotype on gay men and it’s alsooo fetishizing them if ur not also a gay man. Anyways you can still read it of course just have fun being a terrible human being.
omg exacty,yall say its preference to read or not read but this is clearly pedophilia. what the- yall sick. i get it, i love shounen ai ,yaoi too but this is a different story. like HE IS A LITTLE BOY.
omg exacty,yall say its preference to read or not read but this is clearly pedophilia. what the- yall sick. i get it, i love shounen ai ,yaoi too but this is a different story. like HE IS A LITTLE BOY. ozmodeon
Thank you someone sensible. I honestly feel that if he was a little girl instead people would rage. Rightfully so. But these readers give it a pass because it’s their “beloved yaoi ships.”
illegal??? creepy??? maybe for u, but that's for us to decide.¯_ಠ_ಠ_/¯ jory
Are fucking stupid? Is it "us" who decide that something is a crime or not? Can you like open your eyes and be reasonable for at least a second?? If you give it a simple thought you will definetely understand that this is some illegal shit and it is not okay to do this kind of things, as much as it is NOT. FUCKING. OKAY. to say that its alright because this is just a story. Fucking grow up try to understand what is what. You might like yaoi, i cant say anything to that, because so do i. But the fact that they are gay does NOT change the fact that Ren still is, indeed, a minor.
Even if this relationship can be see as illegal for we foreigners, in Japan(where the manga was created) the age of consent is 13 yo and Ren have 16 yo now So there is nothing illegal in Haru's actions If you don't like this type of story is understandable, but you can't make accuse if you don't even know what you are talking about. Your ethics is different from the law So if you want to talk about something important like pedophilia and sexual abuse, please be sure you are well informed♡ (^*^)/
Even if this relationship can be see as illegal for we foreigners, in Japan(where the manga was created) the age of consent is 13 yo and Ren have 16 yo now So there is nothing illegal in Haru's actions If you don't like this type of story is understandable, but you can't make accuse if you don't even know what you are talking about. Your ethics is different from the law So if you want to talk about something important like pedophilia and sexual abuse, please be sure you are well informed♡ ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Maybe for me? Uhhh laws? Ren is a minor in like multiple countries. There’s no justification for any of this. If ren was a girl it would be different right? But he’s a guy and he’s gay so fujoshi’s eat ... XxEunoiaxX
Err no? Ren is like 16 to 17 now. And Haru mainly made a move on him after Ren turned 16. Idk if you know that the rest of the world exists... 16 is legal for sex in my country and multiple others like South Korea as well. 15 for Thailand and 14 for China... So like what you talking abt? And it's like you behave like Haru is taking advantage of Ren one-sidedly. Ren just went through chapters cause he knows the feelings he has for Haru isn't just towards a "brother". It's pretty mutual. If you think this is messed up, go read Killing Stalking and come back. You'll think this is vanilla.
Err no? Ren is like 16 to 17 now. And Haru mainly made a move on him after Ren turned 16. Idk if you know that the rest of the world exists... 16 is legal for sex in my country and multiple others like South Ko... bbyekai
Maybe for me? Uhhh laws? Ren is a minor in like multiple countries. There’s no justification for any of this. If ren was a girl it would be different right? But he’s a guy and he’s gay so fujoshi’s eat ... XxEunoiaxX
I think it would be best for you to do some research first before you retaliate? I mean, I get what you are preaching and I'm not against at you calling out the author or whoever you wanted to call out, but the story was MADE and PUBLISHED in a specific country, of course they will be following THAT SPECIFIC country's rules and law. You should've done some research first bcs that's what I've done bcs I also went berserk when Haru made an advances on my pretty boy Ren. AND u should EDUCATE actually not RETALIATE as if they are the lowest of the low for reading such. Bcs doing that made you low too.
Oh and FYI the whole manga is about Ren and Haru going around in circles because of their age gap, their gender, their status as either a lover or a brother. You must not have read the story properly that's why your here mouthing off like a bitch.
Look, even if its alright after 13 years, that doesnt change the age gap between them, neither does it change the fact that haru gets aroused for a kid who is at least 8 years younger than himself. (Haru is 24 and and Ren is 16 as i know) we reasonable people call this pedophilia. And pedophilia is not okay. Ren may be 16 years old, but haru gets older too you know? The age gap between them does NOT change. You guys are literally defending pedophilia????? Please stop making excuses to cover something so wrong. Dont get this wrong by the way: im not saying that having an 8 years of age gap must be considered as pedophilia. But when ren is such a young boy, it gives that impression.
Haaaaahhhh the people involved are pondering over the matter GENIUS. And a 16 yo is not a child anymore. Sure they're not financially capable yet but they can think for themselves and decide if they want to be with an OLDER partner or not.
Haaaaahhhh the people involved are pondering over the matter GENIUS. And a 16 yo is not a child anymore. Sure they're not financially capable yet but they can think for themselves and decide if they want to be ... Yrghel
omg are you still defending yourself. clauidy is completly right and We all know that ren came to that house at a young age. he is 16 now but the thing is ,all of that shit didn't start when he was 16. you know what i mean by 'all of that shit' right? i am sure you know. defend what the f you believe this is the sickest thing ive ever seen
im muting here ,this is getting so ridiculous. im sure that yall are like 14-15. get your senses together and think about it clearly. for your own good. please.
Haaaaahhhh the people involved are pondering over the matter GENIUS. And a 16 yo is not a child anymore. Sure they're not financially capable yet but they can think for themselves and decide if they want to be ... Yrghel
Are they just not "financially capable" ? Are you really fucking saying this? A 16 years old may not be a child but that doesnt mean that they are an adult???? What the fuck is wrong with everyone reading this manga seriously. You all are just trying to make excuses so that you wont think its weird to like these kind of shits. You are all sick what the heck
Are fucking stupid? Is it "us" who decide that something is a crime or not? Can you like open your eyes and be reasonable for at least a second?? If you give it a simple thought you will definetely understand t... clauidy
its not illegal though. Age of consent in japan is 13
Ayayay my grandma gave birth to my mom at the age of 14 she still workin while pregnant and started soon after 2 months of rest. My grandma that time married my grandpa(10 years older than her) at the age of 16. After that she gave birth to two more kids at the age of 16 and 18. She has her own businesses now. Child my ass. If you've got no experience about these types of situations shut the fuck up.
You and your way of thinking is ignorant. There are many people around me that has a huge age gap 16&28 19&35 they all are living together happily with their own kids. If this idea disgusts then so be it. But im telling you you better broaden your mindset.
You and your way of thinking is ignorant. There are many people around me that has a huge age gap 16&28 19&35 they all are living together happily with their own kids. If this idea disgusts then so be i... Yrghel
16 and 28- okay. idk where you live but thats pedophilia just saying. If you did your little research on google you would understand why the age of consent is 18 at least in America. Ever heard of development, hormones, growth? Those all play a factor in if you are legally allowed to give consent because they influence your decisions and can ruin your life. It's not "broadening your mindset" its not defending literal pedophilia and rape. You don't need to have experience with pedophilia to know it's pedophilia lol. Stop talking shit to everyone because you are looking like a fool here.
Like wth, I hope the old, blonde brother (whatever his name is) goes to jail or preferably hell. I hope ren realizes how effed up this situation is and finds a lovely man his AGE and not his adoptive brother. I just don’t understand how you all can read this, and say that “this is amazing! I want more fluff!” it’s horrible truly. Do better.
omg, gurl no one forces u to read this manga life wtf. let ppl read what they want to read after all this is just a story.
No one forced you to reply. Also just because it’s a story doesn’t mean I can’t criticize it.
guRLLLLL, then about the fact that u judge those people who read this??? guRL we have our own preferences, so bACK oFf. lol
Yea ur preferences are illegal. It’s creepy, we gotta to acknowledge that this is wrong. Trust me I used to love this stuff too so the comment I wrote is also a personal attack lol.
illegal??? creepy??? maybe for u, but that's for us to decide.¯_ಠ_ಠ_/¯
Maybe for me? Uhhh laws? Ren is a minor in like multiple countries. There’s no justification for any of this. If ren was a girl it would be different right? But he’s a guy and he’s gay so fujoshi’s eat that shit up.
Honestly whoever you are, stop wasting ur time to respond to me if you don’t have anything reasonable to say.
Well of course everyone has their own opinion in certain things, I do agree with some things you say but now with everything. I still find it a cute story and enjoy it (kinda am bothered that Ren is a minor but I don’t really care and tho if it was a yaoi I’d be bothered a lot). The same age rule is broken in so many manhwas/ manga but their fictional and for others entertainment, not even in just BL but hetreo manhwa/manga too. And keep in consideration that some people have parents who have large age gaps who are doing perfectly fine so they might be perfectly fine with this.
I used to relate. When I was obsessed with yaoi for a while I saw a ton of age gaps. Ex: hitorijime my hero. And I just went along with it because I thought the characters were “so cute so I didn’t care” and then as time went on I realized how fucked that situation is. Anyways nuff said w that... I feel like in this case that age gap excuse can’t be used because it’s not like their 25 and 31. That kid isn’t even legal in the slightest. He can’t consent and they shouldn’t be kissing either.
Tru. But I searched it up an current age is 16 and 24 so 8 years. That isn’t too bad, my best friend parents age difference is 12 years, I never thought that was weird and actually normal. Of course I can’t relate my parents are 2 years apart. It depends on which situation, I’m not trying to fight about who’s right, again this is opinion. But I don’t think you should say everyone who likes this manga is sicking since everyone has a different view :)
I think it’s not up to pov because in this case it’s very much illegal. It’s different when two of age, consenting, adults can date. I see what ur getting at and I don’t think an age gap of 12 years is weird as long as they both are adults. However ren is a minor. That excuse doesn’t work here. And yes the readers of this are sickening for having a preference of reading this. This is wrong. Stop attempting to justify this. :)
Also I think yaoi is wrong in general, shounen ai is so much better. And yes I can’t stop anyone from reading it. But what I can do is call out the predatory behavior and rape shown commonly in this genre. I won’t give this a pass anymore. It’s putting a negative stereotype on gay men and it’s alsooo fetishizing them if ur not also a gay man. Anyways you can still read it of course just have fun being a terrible human being.
Why are you even here then? Mangago is crawling with these kinds of manga. If you want clean
safe manga, this is not the place
omg exacty,yall say its preference to read or not read but this is clearly pedophilia. what the- yall sick. i get it, i love shounen ai ,yaoi too but this is a different story. like HE IS A LITTLE BOY.
There’s plenty of other manga wdym?
Thank you someone sensible. I honestly feel that if he was a little girl instead people would rage. Rightfully so. But these readers give it a pass because it’s their “beloved yaoi ships.”
Are fucking stupid? Is it "us" who decide that something is a crime or not? Can you like open your eyes and be reasonable for at least a second?? If you give it a simple thought you will definetely understand that this is some illegal shit and it is not okay to do this kind of things, as much as it is NOT. FUCKING. OKAY. to say that its alright because this is just a story. Fucking grow up try to understand what is what. You might like yaoi, i cant say anything to that, because so do i. But the fact that they are gay does NOT change the fact that Ren still is, indeed, a minor.
well mangago has plenty of manga like this but this is the first time I've seen people supporting 'this'. shocked
OMG!!! THE GIRLSSS ARE FIGHTING HAHAHAHHAHAHA
I was gonna grab my popcorn but all this fighting wasn't interesting in the least.
Came for the update, stayed for the debate.
Just go you boring bitch
Even if this relationship can be see as illegal for we foreigners, in Japan(where the manga was created) the age of consent is 13 yo and Ren have 16 yo now
So there is nothing illegal in Haru's actions
If you don't like this type of story is understandable, but you can't make accuse if you don't even know what you are talking about.
Your ethics is different from the law
So if you want to talk about something important like pedophilia and sexual abuse, please be sure you are well informed♡
(^*^)/
Even if this relationship can be see as illegal for we foreigners, in Japan(where the manga was created) the age of consent is 13 yo and Ren have 16 yo now
So there is nothing illegal in Haru's actions
If you don't like this type of story is understandable, but you can't make accuse if you don't even know what you are talking about.
Your ethics is different from the law
So if you want to talk about something important like pedophilia and sexual abuse, please be sure you are well informed♡ ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶
Err no? Ren is like 16 to 17 now. And Haru mainly made a move on him after Ren turned 16. Idk if you know that the rest of the world exists... 16 is legal for sex in my country and multiple others like South Korea as well. 15 for Thailand and 14 for China... So like what you talking abt?
And it's like you behave like Haru is taking advantage of Ren one-sidedly. Ren just went through chapters cause he knows the feelings he has for Haru isn't just towards a "brother". It's pretty mutual.
If you think this is messed up, go read Killing Stalking and come back. You'll think this is vanilla.
Best come back ever ( ꈍᴗꈍ)
Just because you hate this manga doesn't mean that others should hate it too.
I think it would be best for you to do some research first before you retaliate? I mean, I get what you are preaching and I'm not against at you calling out the author or whoever you wanted to call out, but the story was MADE and PUBLISHED in a specific country, of course they will be following THAT SPECIFIC country's rules and law. You should've done some research first bcs that's what I've done bcs I also went berserk when Haru made an advances on my pretty boy Ren. AND u should EDUCATE actually not RETALIATE as if they are the lowest of the low for reading such. Bcs doing that made you low too.
Oh and FYI the whole manga is about Ren and Haru going around in circles because of their age gap, their gender, their status as either a lover or a brother. You must not have read the story properly that's why your here mouthing off like a bitch.
Look, even if its alright after 13 years, that doesnt change the age gap between them, neither does it change the fact that haru gets aroused for a kid who is at least 8 years younger than himself. (Haru is 24 and and Ren is 16 as i know) we reasonable people call this pedophilia. And pedophilia is not okay. Ren may be 16 years old, but haru gets older too you know? The age gap between them does NOT change. You guys are literally defending pedophilia????? Please stop making excuses to cover something so wrong. Dont get this wrong by the way: im not saying that having an 8 years of age gap must be considered as pedophilia. But when ren is such a young boy, it gives that impression.
Haaaaahhhh the people involved are pondering over the matter GENIUS. And a 16 yo is not a child anymore. Sure they're not financially capable yet but they can think for themselves and decide if they want to be with an OLDER partner or not.
omg are you still defending yourself. clauidy is completly right and We all know that ren came to that house at a young age. he is 16 now but the thing is ,all of that shit didn't start when he was 16. you know what i mean by 'all of that shit' right? i am sure you know. defend what the f you believe this is the sickest thing ive ever seen
im muting here ,this is getting so ridiculous. im sure that yall are like 14-15. get your senses together and think about it clearly. for your own good. please.
Are they just not "financially capable" ? Are you really fucking saying this? A 16 years old may not be a child but that doesnt mean that they are an adult???? What the fuck is wrong with everyone reading this manga seriously. You all are just trying to make excuses so that you wont think its weird to like these kind of shits. You are all sick what the heck
its not illegal though. Age of consent in japan is 13
I'M SELLING POPCORN. WHO WANTS TO BUY?
GIRLS, GALS, AND GUYS... CHILL OKAY HAHAHAHAHA *enjoys reading*
Ayayay my grandma gave birth to my mom at the age of 14 she still workin while pregnant and started soon after 2 months of rest. My grandma that time married my grandpa(10 years older than her) at the age of 16. After that she gave birth to two more kids at the age of 16 and 18. She has her own businesses now. Child my ass. If you've got no experience about these types of situations shut the fuck up.
You and your way of thinking is ignorant. There are many people around me that has a huge age gap 16&28 19&35 they all are living together happily with their own kids. If this idea disgusts then so be it. But im telling you you better broaden your mindset.
You might think it's wrong but for the people involved it's not.
16 and 28- okay. idk where you live but thats pedophilia just saying. If you did your little research on google you would understand why the age of consent is 18 at least in America. Ever heard of development, hormones, growth? Those all play a factor in if you are legally allowed to give consent because they influence your decisions and can ruin your life. It's not "broadening your mindset" its not defending literal pedophilia and rape. You don't need to have experience with pedophilia to know it's pedophilia lol. Stop talking shit to everyone because you are looking like a fool here.