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Haven't read too far in but have you maybe considered that maybe the author is a minor or isn't that comfortable with talking about sex?

If you've read everything I've written, you'll see I'm not complaining about the lack of smut (honestly seeing smut here would be pretty uncomfortable, given the vibe of the story) but about how stupid it is to portray them in certain, more or less explicit situations and then say "oh yeah no they've been married for years but never had sex actually".
If they weren't comfortable talking about sex, they wouldn't bring it up in the first place and that would be totally fine. And again, if they were a minor (pretty unlikely, honestly) they would've either omitted it, wrote the whole thing orrr kept it censored.

Also, just typing this in place of my 15-16yo self because I know she would've been mad, but being a minor doesn't equal being clueless, so y'all should really stop assuming that. In any case, the point isn't that the situation portrayed simply isn't realistic, which makes it pretty laughable in my opinion

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No I read the part where smut isn't needed, I'm talking about why they said "haven't had sex yet". Like I said I haven't read it fully so I don't know how bad their excuse is but being uncomfortable about talking about sex doesn't just mean not bringing it up. Idk how to explain it well but I'll try to give an example, like a guy with their partner talking about yeah they tried to make a kid but they don't say oh yeah we had bed relationships...idk I'm not good at explaining. But basically being uncomfortable about giving any idea that they fucked or in this case author saying that they never had sex cause it doesn't fit... Yes my explanation is horrible lol as for the minor one yes I totally agree that doesn't mean being clueless but it kinda also ties in with being uncomfortable thing im talking about, just wanting to skip the whole topic entirely so you throw in a somewhat explanation. But yeah for me there could be so many reasons why they threw in that line so I don't really wanna focus on it.

Also the whole "too big" thing can be a real thing... Imagine having a big width that "too big"

(accidentally cut off) -if your partner says they're afraid because it's big then if you respect them then you wouldn't really force them to do anything they don't want to. Real concern as well since stuff can bleed if you force it in

Thanks for trying to clarify, but I recommend you comment further after completing the story, as it doesn't seem I'm getting through to you entirely haha—
Anyhow, I'm talking as both someone young (so I still remember how I was like in my adolescence) and with a bit of experience (= I know seggs

Oh fuck ts it deleted the rest of my comment.
Anyhow, in short: minors have sex so it's not about being uncomfortable with the topic. The topic itself was brought up by the author and the scene, although not explicit, was present, and it would make no sense to bring it up if you're not comfortable with the subject. If you're passionately attracted to someone you're also married to, well... Where there's a will there's a way, so with a few weeks or months of work it would become nice and enjoyable for both. Thus, author is either writing about stuff they don't understand irl or trying to keep up some purist appearances (like in kdramas, where everyone is seemingly a pure virgin late in their thirties). Main complaint: it's not realistic and it's bullshit

We're here trying to convince ourselves it's not! :D

Yep, and based on where she fainted. It's likely she didn't wander too much and used much of her energy to call for help, a sedentary expense.

Exactly

https://novelight.net/book/the-male-leads-are-trapped-in-my-house

up to chapter 184 for free :)

Thank you

D’yknow what chapter this is in the novel?

87!

Thanks!

Was Cesare drugged? I thought he was just drunk. Where does it say he was drugged?

Here’s novel chapter 258 which is free on Naver. Where was he drugged?

https://m.novel.naver.com/webnovel/detail?novelId=934373&volumeNo=258#nafullscreen

Oh I didn't read the novel, just assumed she used the elixir she had on him, both because of his reaction (right by the end of the chapter, he was uncharacteristically confused) and because that's how things usually go in this kind of story. Either way, even if he was not drugged, he was heavily intoxicated, so that's still very much SA, compared to: — Stop...
— Ok.
Or however the aforementioned dialogue went specifically.

He was indeed intoxicated but some of his thoughts came through clearly. For instance, he thought the way she was clumsily trying her best to kiss him was cute and he wanted to teach her how to kiss properly. He even compared her kiss to the women he’d kissed before who were like experts. He felt “omnipotent” when he felt her stop resisting against his deep kiss as she seemed to feel it with her entire body. So, did she seduce him, sexually assault him or dubious consent him? Hmmm.

Novel excerpt:
Isabella was kissing Cesare. Her bright red lips parted slightly, and she was the first to invade Cesare's mouth.

In fact, it was objectively a clumsy attempt at a kiss. Among the women Cesare had met, there were some who deserved to be left behind as a textbook on kissing, complete with illustrations of each step. By comparison, Isabella's attempt was pathetic.

But the beautiful girl was doing her best to kiss him, and he thought it was quite cute.

Isabella whispered again, “Take me."

Her lips sank into mine. This time, the kiss was more aggressive than before. But I couldn't help feeling awkward.

.... I have to show you what a real kiss is.

Cesare grabbed the wrist of the woman in front of him and threw her down on the sofa. The woman let out a "Gah," an exclamation that was unclear whether it was a scream or something else.

It didn't matter. Cesare pressed his weight against her and kissed her deeply. Even the woman who had been squirming beneath him soon stopped resisting and yielded to the kiss. She seemed to feel his kiss with her entire body.

Ah, this is the feeling. This omnipotence.

When Cesare felt that the woman leaning against the sofa had completely melted, he picked her up in both arms and led her to his bed right behind him

The woman was lighter than he'd expected, and her clothing was equally light. It was still cold, but the partlet was nothing more than a thin layer of fabric, as thin as a dragonfly's wing. Even Corpiquet's hand slid open with a snap. She had been dressed with utmost care, but Cesare didn't have the presence of mind to judge it.

He frantically searched through the clothes, searching for the woman inside. A warm, smooth, soft body.

It was Cesare's drug.

Girl ok I get that that's how it goes in the novel, but this adaptation doesn't really include everything you've just pointed out. The manwha's pacing and storyline do in fact direct the reader to assume that what was my interpretation is correct. So yeah, if this were adapted better, you would be entirely correct; but given it isn't, I'm not entirely wrong either. You know, I cannot come up with important details that were ENTIRELY omitted. Try to read it while ignoring what you already know and tell me it's not misleading

That’s where the bias of the manhwa team begins. Due to the fact they covered up Cesare’s actions and thoughts, Ariadne is the one getting the hate. I understand Korean readers began to complain due to this. Moreover, on Webtoon English, many manhwa readers blame Ariadne for Cesare’s actions as well. So basically, Cesare is portrayed as a victim of everyone else including both sisters.

Oh yeah that could never be me: I don't blame Ariadne for anything except maybe getting sidetracked. About Cesare, I passed his "being a different person" as a character-building flaw, I didn't know it was actually a result of the manwha team's bias (so, effectively, a mistake in the adaptation and not in the original story).