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Kei_S September 14, 2015 9:06 pm

┗( T﹏T )┛

Okay, so while almost everyone who read this manga are still weeping for blatantly ignoring the spoiler warning, here I am, still quite calm but disappointed in a different way.

First of all, you may hate me for saying this, but I honestly didn't have my usual doki doki feels for this couple. I mean, I appreciate that they showed reluctance and confusion, because let's face it, suddenly having feelings for someone of the same gender isn't very easy to accept especially when one has never even considered it a possibility. However, I felt like, the relationship lacked something special. I even hated how Mura acted towards Subaru and their bumpy relationship. Ugh, I especially couldn't stand it when he was already being lovey dovey to Subaru, yet he continues to make passes with his (ex) girlfriend. Okay, wait, did he even seriously break up with her? Because with the way they acted, it was as if they were still in a relationship and he's just having an intimate affair with Subaru. Like, dude, don't go declaring and pushing your love if you can't even stay faithful!

Moving on, I admit that I also ignored the spoiler warning. But in reality, I just didn't get it clearly so I continued reading. I mean, I had a hunch early on, but I was still hoping that it wouldn't actually happen... Yet, it did. I was sad, but I didn't cry. Perhaps because I didn't get too attached with the characters whom I felt lacked more depth? I imagine being in their situation though, and that's when I felt my chest hurt. It's surely hard to get over a lover's death -- you'd stop living and won't care about anything else, except that you have to. Because you're alive, you have to live and move on with your life, even if your special person is no longer by your side. In time, you may or may not meet someone who will make you happy despite the tragedy you experienced.

I think this manga has a great potential to be so much better, especially because it introduced some interesting bits, like The Lemming Condition, for example. It would've been more interesting if the concepts introduced were actually integrated more properly and executed better throughout the story. I also feel that the characters weren't developed much.

Kei_S September 10, 2015 3:40 am

Heh. So, I've seen this manga a lot before while lurking, but I intentionally avoided it, thinking it was shota-con and I didn't feel comfortable with it. But then I saw a reply in a forum recommending the manga COMPLEX and said that it's very good and the relationship progressed from childhood to adulthood, so I got interested. When I saw the cover, I felt reluctant again, but decided to give it a try... and I'm glad I did.

I can say that this manga is a very memorable manga. I love it for the most part, but I won't deny that I disliked some parts. I'm one of those who got really disappointed with Tatsuya, because his betrayal was the turning point of this story. I also disliked Takako (the woman) because he manipulated and took advantage of Tatsuya, but I know that nothing would've happened if he didn't act on the provocation. It's his fault that we had our hearts broken, yet why did he have that contented, normal life? I'm not saying he didn't deserve to be happy because he made a mistake, but I at least wanted him to be remorseful! It's one thing to sleep with a woman and get her pregnant, so you'll marry her out of sense of responsibility, but it's another thing if this happens while you are in a deep relationship.

He fell in love with Junichi and made him fall for him after some time, co-habitated, publicly announced their relationship, and even worked in the same company just because he wanted to always be with him. So I can't truly understand his betrayal, despite the fact that he did it out of fear and insecurity. But, c'mon. He's been through worse, and if he at least believed in his love for Junichi, he wouldn't even be able to touch that girl, knowing her intention.

There's too much to say about his betrayal, but I'm moving on anyway. I felt like Kenta's romance being included here is pointless. I don't mean that it's pointless because it showed us the decisions he made as he grew up with gay parents, but because I believe it could've been put into a separate story. Kenta and Manabu's story wasn't even properly presented. I get that the mangaka probably intended to show us how two guys' relationship will go if the other chooses to remain friends and live the straight path instead of being influenced by his confused feelings and the environment he grew up with. I think the story could go deeper, especially because of Manabu's background, and him falling for Kenta may just be a result of him being there when there was no one else was... So maybe if he met another person whom he could connect with, he may either feel differenlty for Kenta or it could prove that his love for Kenta's strong enough that even if he were to add a few people in his life, Kenta would still be the only one he loves romantically.

Overall, I loved how Tatsuya and Junichi lived happily in love despite the problems they faced. It could've been better if they focused more on Tatsuya and Junichi though, instead of mixing Kenta's story in.

Kei_S September 9, 2015 9:50 pm

Like many others, I was also pissed off by the last chapter's seme's cheating and his logic in general. I mean, taking a lover who cheated on you once is hard enough, so how about someone who did it to you 5 times?! That's just... no! However, I also disliked how the uke justified the seme's cheating by comparing it to his affair with Hadaka-san before.

Because, even though Hadaka cheats on his wife, he doesn't seem to have plans on filing a divorce at all since he says his wife is actually important to him (dodging the question if he loves her). It's like, when he was having an affair with Hadaka, he was aware that Hadaka will never be serious enough, and would still, no matter what, come back to the wife at the end of the day. Somehow, he may have been jealous of his wife, for he was the only one he treasures above all his affairs.

So, in his relationship with Kei, he finally felt like he had the role of the wife whose husband cheats a lot, but never seriously. Since he always comes back to him after all, he just had to appreciate the seme more, because he knows that no matter how many times he cheats, he'll still come back to him --- but then of course, he'd appreciate him better if he stopped cheating altogether. Ugh.

Well, since Kei uses cheating to test the uke's love for him, he has a really big problem regarding insecurity. I think that, if it's not addressed and dealt with properly, he'd still do more annoying stuff in the future. I disliked how it was brushed off by simply getting them back together even after the uke kept saying they're over.

WHY?!

The seme didn't seem remorseful at all. He had fun and felt relieved everytime the uke took him back after cheating, but he didn't consider his feelings at all. And, when the uke was finally threatened by one of his affairs, by being pushed off the stairs, Kei said he was shocked for being unable to catch him, but did you feel his guilt at all? It may be so that he chased after the assailant to prevent him from attacking the uke again in the future, but the way he left him no matter how much the uke stopped him was really unfair. The least he could do was reassure him of what he'd actually do! That seme had too much confidence (ironically, despite being so insecure) that he felt like, no matter what he did to the uke, he wouldn't be able to get rid of him. It's a very unhealthy relationship.

I would've been more relieved if I saw that seme suffering from the consequences of his actions and if the uke didn't remain a pushover. I actually think the last chapter's very interesting, but could've been more developed. Because, we could see that despite the cheating, they actually "love" each other, so we could've cheered for them more to get back together if only they learnt past their mistakes. After all, everyone makes mistakes, but only those who learn from them may be really worth fighting for.

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Oh well, I just realized all the couples had cheating involved, but the first two ukes we smart enough not to end up with those who cheated on them, and found the semes who really treasured them.

    Kei_S September 9, 2015 9:54 pm

    but the first two ukes were* smart enough

    Salvadora September 13, 2015 7:40 pm

    So right! Like who would ever trust someone again after being cheated on many times ugghh (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸

    Oiichika October 14, 2015 3:42 pm

    im reallyyyyy agreeeeeeeeee with you!!!!!!!!!! omg im so fucking pissed. he said "it feels different after with someone else" that seme is a fucking retarded asshole.

    lucy03 November 3, 2015 3:30 pm

    (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ you are reading my mind me too i thought that the uke should be with that guy in suit, and that the seme will be with another person who will let him cheat everytime ( my idea) but still if he won't cheat anymore would be very great and he also needs to find a job(● ̄(エ) ̄●)

Kei_S August 10, 2015 7:50 pm

There's seriously too much rivalry going on here.

I've skimmed the "raws" and even though I didn't really understand what was happening, I somehow had an idea. It annoyed me how Haruka still entertained/flirted with girls, especially with that one girl! I didn't know what happened, or how she blackmailed him (I'm assuming this), but his actions were just too much. Uni's really patient with him though. No matter how many times he's hurt her, she still holds on to him. (Even though she's a genius/prodigy with an IQ of 180) She's naive and easily manipulated at times (I was disappointed with what happened with Konan), but she's really refreshing compared to the typical shoujo leads who just act clumsy and like damsels in distress..

Anyway, this manga has a lot of funny and sweet moments. It's just that the rivalry aspects worn me out because my heart can't seriously take too much of it from one manga. ( ̄へ ̄)

Kei_S August 10, 2015 11:35 am

WARNING: CONTAINS SPOILER ლ(´ڡ`ლ)


I'm actually partial about this manga. I mean, when the situation is like this, where the guy has a girlfriend, and another girl starts to get close to him, I get irritated.

Imagine if you are his girlfriend. Because you're not by his side, he starts to get lonely. Then, another girl entertains him, and he starts thinking less of you and thinking more of her. Eventually, the only thing that links you to him is a promise he made that he'd make you happy/he'd be with you forever. But, would that really make you happy? I find it unfair. Because then, you'd only be fooling yourselves. However, if I were the 'other' girl, even if he chooses me over his girlfriend, I would have a little worry at the back of my mind. "What if it happens to me next time? If, even though I'm his girlfriend now, he meets someone else and he suddenly feel differently for her? Would he just keep dating me for the sake of it, or would he choose the new girl over me, just like how he chose me over his girlfriend before?"

Well, in this manga, we sympathize with Totoki because Haruka turns out to be emotionally/mentally unstable, thus, making her the "psycho girlfriend" of our gentle and handsome lead. Because her thoughts and actions were actually very selfish, we start cheering for the new girl who doesn't tie Yukimura down by a mere duty and let him experience a normal life instead.

I admire Yukimura's attempt of cutting his connection with Totoki because he's starting to fall for her, when he already has a girlfriend. However, even if he chose to stay with Haruka, it was obvious that things can't go back to the way they were before. His heart wasn't hers anymore. Or perhaps, she's been losing him bit by bit from when she started acting the way she did.

Anyway, I'm happy about how things ended up, but I would've loved more backstory for Haruka and Yukimura, and how things progressed for Yukimura and Totoki.

ps. I liked how they incorporated Sleeping Beauty in the story.

    al1975 September 4, 2015 6:53 pm

    Well said my friend.

    Anonymous May 1, 2017 9:35 am

    True... Actually, for me it depends on who the main character is.
    But yes, I feel that same anxiety, too.
    So if I get hurt by stories and stuff, I could only imagine the pain felt by real life couples. I'm sparing myself of that, thanks.

Kei_S August 7, 2015 3:34 pm

Before Reading: Wow! Me wants threesome! Please let it have threesome! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

After Reading: HOW COULD THEY HAVE THREESOME?! AND A DOUBLE PENETRATION TO BOOT! NOOOO! (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

I felt sad because it was already implied that Kou liked Hodaka, but he still gave in to Mikio! I mean, I would've liked their 3P better if Kou didn't feel the same for Hodaka.

Well, that still wouldn't be so nice, but at least, there's no false hope and betrayal/cheating involved. They can just be f*** buddies or whatsoever. Not like this. Kou, you selfish spoiled brat! ヽ(`Д´)ノ

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