OMG!!! As a huge fan of MMA, I have to say watching him lose all that weight that fast and gain it back made me feel some type of way. This guys go through hell…Damn, looking so gaunt and then the dehydration, Fam it’s a killer, OML, this sports is crazy fam.
Now onto pressing matters
Dan, *heavy sigh* that’s all I can say.
Did y’all see that,
How he put Theo in her place
Like “If possible I’d like to get along with you” phewww….the man don’t play with his Craig, like I know you got problems but don’t touch my man like that . PERFECT! PERfeCT! PERFECT!!!
REAL
Why are y’all wishing death upon an actual real person when you consciously picked up their work and read it by yourself, you weren’t forced, you weren’t cajouled, none of these, no gun to your head, no forceful actions were taken towards you, you saw the signs, read the messed up disclaimers and still read it. Then you came to the comment and say the author should be killed, doxxed, sued, tortured and be raped—are you people okay. If you’re so brave why don’t you doxx yourself first, What is wrong with you?. What is wrong with you people. OMG!!! I’m so appalled with what I’m reading, if you can’t stomach it, drop it and leave. What’s so hard about that? People reason it with your actual brain.
Damn this is loud and says a lot. So what would you wish upon the author of Tomie, and so many other authors that have freaky stories much worse than this.
YEAH i have been thinking that same:D no one force people to read this. peoples weird here in the comments. ╥﹏╥
Did you know minho is based off a real life person the author hates ? She based him off someone she hates. Now just reread the story and see how fucked up it is to write an entire imaginary story of someone you hate getting kidnapped raped tortured blackmailed and manipulated just because you dont like the person. Shes a horrible person and honestly she deserves every last bit of hate and criticism she gets lol
^^^
And she’ll get her karma, but do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her, no, we also don’t know if the person may just be a victim of her crazy imaginations, she could better yet be lying just to get readers or it could be a publicity stunt? So many reasons, so many angles to look at it, does that mean she should fantasize about it, No? What I’m saying is you are just as horrid and as bad, you can try to justify whatever with whatever but the bottom line is this endless circle of hate and vileness started from somewhere and won’t end anytime soon with people like you, the author, and the person she hates too. I’m not self-righteous but no body forced anybody here. P.s I didn’t even know that, now as a reasonable human that I am, if I knew I’d probably ditched the story and never read it, never pick it up, never go near it cause I don’t want to end up saying something I’d regret, as I know I could cause of the level of toxicity and horrendous acts done here.
P.s the fact that you “loled” at the end, Fam. No just No
Agreed, unfortunately you can’t take peoples opinions from them and can not correct them either, can’t change anything I guess.
Lets say it really was a "publicity stunt" the
least she could expect is an outrage at her so
shes really just reaping what she sowed. Now
besides that, people getting mad at her and
wishing the worst upon her for feeling
comfortable enough to fantasize draw someone
she hates (for criticizing her writing btw) getting
raped and tortured is kind of her deserved
karma LOL Keep in mind all the hate comments
are mostly on mangago and in english which i
doubt she would ever care to read. Now
imagine being the person who criticized her
reading her rape fantasy of you for the public to
see LOLim just so baffled you keep making
excuses for her when shes so obviously a bad
person. Its okay I see how youre trying to be
mature about it but there's really no other way
to look at it. The artist isnt even involved with
the writer anymore thats how shitty she is.
Ps i never knew there were rules for when i
could use lol..i will try to be more mindful
Did you read anything I wrote?, when did I make excuses for her, now you’re twisting my words, what are you saying, the idea behind giving different scenarios is so people see things from different angles, that’s the point of having an opinion or a conversation or airing a thought, so don’t isolate one statement or sentence and run with it. And did I condone what she did?, did I applaud it?. Please read what I wrote and stop trying to turn this like I’m supporting her, I’ve made my opinions known and made it as much detailed as possible. If you can’t read to understand and get the point there’s nothing I can do about it for you, and if you’re baffled that I’m asking people to not stoop low and say words and to not be caught up in this vile cycle like the author is, nothing I can do for you either, but please I’ll request you don’t twist my words into something it isn’t as it shows poor quality is having different opinions on something, Thank you.
I think bvalgarisvengali just means the creator deserves the "hate and criticism" not the death threats (I can't co-sign any of this I don't do this shit) "Shes a horrible person and honestly she deserves every last bit of hate and criticism she gets lol"
"but do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her, no, we also don’t know if the person may just be a victim of her crazy imaginations, she could better yet be lying just to get readers or it could be a publicity stunt? So many reasons, so many angles to look at it".
When you said this, it did come out like you were defending her, I know the point of you saying that was to provide different point of views, but it sounded like you were justifying a certainty with possibility, like since this and this could be the reason why she did this, we should understand her and where she's coming from etc, so I guess that's the reason why bvalgarisvengali thought you were defending her
It took me a while to get your point but basically your saying that by sharing why the author made this story (it being based on the person she hates) bvalgarisvengali is continuing the "endless circle of hate and vileness" right (?)
And I only read the last 2 chapters and not the whole story because it's not like I'm forced to anyways (I also only found out about all that stuff after reading the comments)
Also I get that the lol was unnecessary and unprofessional but dawg we ain't in court, it doesn't matter if we use slang language or curses in some illegal website filled with porn
(P.S: I'm just pointing things out after reading your comments, I'm not tryna pick a fight pls don't come after me )
I don't get why you'd assume the most drastic reason for her writing this. There's no evidence or implications this person raped her or did anything atrocious. If that was the case Minho would be her self insert. Point being, regardless, its still fucked up and she deserves criticism.
My honest opinion is, due to the fact both Wookyung and Donna and are self inserts, its exactly what it says on the tin. They didn't believe in her work and she doubted their love for her. There's no story of revenge involved, which would be the case if your theory of them doing something terrible to her was true
"do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her"
Thats a blatant excuse.
I think Tsunmimi's main point was that; since bvalgarisvengali shared that the MC of the story was based on the person the author hated (meaning the author literally made a fictional person based on a real person she hated and "getting them kidnapped raped tortured blackmailed and manipulated") other people sent death threats and literally doxxed the author furthermore continuing the "endless circle of hate and vileness".
"So many reasons, so many angles to look at it, does that mean she should fantasize about it, No? What I’m saying is you are just as horrid and as bad, you can try to justify whatever with whatever but the bottom line is this endless circle of hate and vileness started from somewhere and won’t end anytime soon with people like you, the author, and the person she hates too."
Also I use (") when I'm copy pasting what other people said because I haven't read the whole the story. (just like 2 chapters literally)
To address the first point Dear:
I get that point, which is why I decided to reply too.
Secondly:
“but do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her, no, we also don’t know if the person may just be a victim of her crazy imaginations, she could better yet be lying just to get readers or it could be a publicity stunt? So many reasons, so many angles to look at it, does that mean she should fantasize about it, No”
Dear there are words before and after the part you cut out, this is the full sentence, before I made another one, there’s a comma right after which means it’s a continuation of the conversation. I wasn’t justifying anything, I’m saying since we don’t know we can’t ascertain and even at that it’s still a NO, NO, and she’ll get her karma. Just to clarify it again.
It’s a whole sentence, cutting a part out and just using it, obviously anyone can make anything out of it, the sentences are all meant to be together not separated. It’s like saying I said “I want to Diet” without the “t” it come of as a different thing, one word or sentence cut out can make something out to be what isn’t. But thanks for pointing it out.
Putting out the idea that this person raped her is an attempt at excusing her. You're implying that its a possibility and therefore we can't judge but, we can because that theory has no basis in reality. Throwing the idea that she was raped when there is no inference of that is blatant emotional manipulation. Again, if that were the case, Minho would be her self insert
What we know is she wrote a fantasy/story about someone she knew being raped, tortured, abused, humiliated, and overall miserable.
1.) Please do NOT call me dear, no need to be demeaning
2.) Yeah, but that part of the sentence excuses her actions. The addition changes nothing.
Yeah, I read what was said. But, where's the proof she was doxxed or any harm came to her? Even if she was, just because someone took it too far doesn't mean she's void of criticism.
Its not because Bvalgarisvengali brought it up. The author got that hate because she posted, with her chest out, that she based the character on someone in her life that she didn't like. Making the story based off of a real person and admitting to it, was her choice.
Actually No, No.
The user didn’t cause anything like that or cause people to say that, an no one doxxed the author, I don’t know if they did, it’s the comments of other users I saw, People said that of their own violation, cause they too found out just like this user, so it’s not like the user said it and got people triggered or anything, as for me I didn’t know until I got this information when this person commented. But my main point is the cycle should be stopped or put to an end. And the author will get her Karma but no one need to stoop so low like her or to be vile her, cause it doesn’t make anything better and the whole giving examples thing is just to say this could be a situation we don’t know about, not to condone it, like I said at the end she shouldn’t do such a thing, and she’ll get her karma but people shouldn’t have to be monsters or vile like her too.
Oh I wasn’t demeaning though, I say that a lot when I’m texting, its more respectful than saying babes or something that’ll make others uncomfortable since I don’t know you like that? Or am I mistaken?
Also I wasn’t talking to you, I was addressing @Sam. So it’s them I was calling dear not you though. Thank you
Ohh, okay, I thought you were replying to me due to the lack of sustenance in her comment (I don't mean that in a rude way, Sam, but it was more so an explanation which isn't a bad thing)
Lol no, I’m saying that she’ll get her karma, and people who are wishing her the worst don’t have to be vile like her and continue the circle. Do you get, and I didn’t even know until the user mentioned it, I have nothing against the information I’m just saying, people who commented she should die or get raped or stuff like or say she deserves that don’t need to continue the cycle and be vile like her as they’ll getting lopped in the cycle, do you get me now @Sam.
Gotcha, I usually say "dear" or "darling" to be a bitch. While "dear" is often used as an affectionate or polite term to address someone, it can become demeaning depending on the context. The demeaning nature of "dear" often comes up when used in serious discussion because its often used when talking to someone younger (sometimes in other relationships as well)
Not saying you had bad intentions but, it might come off that way
Okay, I understand what you're saying more now. The discrepancy I'm having is, its important to criticize harmful actions. As long as nobody is doing further immoral actions, calling her out is okay and unharmful
Ohhhhhh I see, totally understand that ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~, thanks for sharing that I didn’t see it that way, I’ll note that down and be sure to be careful. Thank you
Oh, sorry my bad
Also I only cut out the part where it sounded like you were defending her so I could explain why it sounded that way. However, I did read the whole sentence and I know you weren't really defending her.
"When you said this, it did come out like you were defending her, I know the point of you saying that was to provide different point of views,-"
Btw I wasn't trying to twist anything you were saying, I was just trying to explain why bvalgarisvengali thought you we're defending her (I actually also thought you were defending her while reading the first half of your comment before reading the whole thing)
Ohh, sorry my bad
I accidentally replied twice LOL, I couldn't find this comment so I thought my mangago glitched and replied again. Turns out we replied so much to the comment that there's a second page in the replies...
I remember reading a comment that said people are literally doxxing the author, that's why I said that, I'm just trusting that whoever said that was telling the truth.
Oh whoaaa!!!! Damn!!!! I didn’t even know that
can't you read there's chapter where minho apologized to duna?? you don't get it? just from that chapter you know author want his ex boyfriend to apologize to her. it's not hard to know ,author's ex boyfriend said something bad to her but she didn't defense herself so that's why she created minho character .what's so hard to know what's actually happened.
Thank you for explaining each of our points respectively. Personally I still cannot get behind Tsunmimis opinion nor understand it but that's life :P it's still commendable of you to read through all that. It's a mess LOL have a good day ^___^
I think this is one of the most realistic stories without being unnecessarily toxic, and stretching the drama for the sake of drama. I like it cause everytime we see love it’s always about sparkles and butterflies and fireworks it’s angst, push and pull, it’s either the red or blue pill, but not this story. Love it 100000/10000. I’ll come re-read this everytime I want to clean my palatte. Although I did feel sad after reading the ML’s POV as I can relate, and it hurt my heart—seriously guys I felt the pain bite deep into my chest when he woke up and found the other side cold, and I don’t think what the MC did was fair as much as I also hate confrontations I never leave things to chance or let my imaginations fool me, rather I ask to clear up my own doubts just for myself and nothing else, he could have done better. But all in all I’m glad they’re together albeit I don’t think the pain will fade away so quickly on both sides, but sometimes there is beauty and love even in pain. Thank you Author-nim for such a beautiful story.
Bruh nothing cute about the story from chapter 1, so he lies to his supposed love interest, and ain’t no way the Mc was dumb enough to do such shitty things to get a girl he “likes” attention, like are you kidding me, fam the story was a burst from the beginning. Say what you want but nahhh!!!! Y’all should stop being sad okay and stare at this , this is what red flags are and this is what he’s being exhibiting from day 1, okay babes and babettes. Love you all and kisses.
Guys remember when this came out and it was caught fire , I still remember how tenacious SY was and maybe still is, always putting himself in harms way to help the innocent or even the guilty as he did for his Ex, and honestly I know a lot of people have so many things to say but to see the end with SY still putting himself in harms way exactly how he did on the beginning part but for TH, lol makes me remember how much of a character he is, he’s truly a brave person. While I’m not so much a fan of both ML’s, I hope everyone gets closure and he ends up happy with whomever he chooses. The world the author created is same as the real mafia world, it’s fucked, vile, disgusting and warped so complaining won’t change a thing, people still love who they love, I wouldn’t encourage it but nothing can be done.
But wow we are getting to the final chapters of LTWW, congratulations Author-nim. Be safe and happy with your work.
Because why? If you want to be done! Be done! If this is revenge then makes no sense to me, cause clearly he still likes him. No matter how they try to play it, at this point I think all this is for the drama cause I tell you communication isn’t what they lack even when they played as lovers. But all of a sudden the ML can’t read the signs and the MC can’t be upfront with questions.
Heavy sigh
And btw I’m very impressed with the comment section and how everyone seems to in-tune with this and having very objective opinions.
You guys rock
I can’t wait for this jerk to go on his knees and beg doc, and boy I can’t wait for him to cry his eyes out and beg and come to realize how much of a horrible human he’s being to a person who doesn’t even know what proper love is. Bad Jk, no Doc Dan treats for you.
I had always imagined that when Seungho finally lets his hair down is probably next to Nakyum happy and they’re both asleep together in a maze of flowers, under the moonlight but imagine my surprise when I see it’s when he’s crying and wallowing infront of his demon-of-trash bag-stone-hearted-sperm-donor,after being drenched in alcohol and locked away in misery. Damn this shit hurts.
literally my exact thought process i was likw why is the one time i finally see it hes in massive distress ╥﹏╥
Those two strands just ighhh—ighhh
Whatchu think you’re combing Appa!!! Two strands of hair…..baby ain’t gat no hair