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Right he looks so pathetic and hopeless,I would also fall for his manipulations if I was in jooyeong shoes after spending a whole decade with jaebeom pitiful ass

I bet if he didn't met PD again, he would fold. Mentally and emotionally unstable hot musician who is obsessed with you and pulls a sewerslide attempt on you here and there? Yeah, sounds like until death do us apart (i.e. when he offs himself) to me.

Right like jooyeong is so self aware on how jaebeom is an abusive asshole but always falls to this master manipulator bs,thank God we at least have pd and red haired to pull jooyeong out of his trance

Must be Ai translation

True or we can be delusional, let just say they had the makeup artist cover it up.

Thats what I have been thinking since cover change. Because scar reveal arc is still a few mile away.

I thought they were being sleek this whole time for always giving hoyoon long sleeves to hide the scar and thought how genius it was. But maybe it was a coincidence

Right??? Tahts how it should be tho Because reading the novel, seeing his arm was supposed to be like looking at a Victorian women's ankles pre reveal.

never laugh this hard for someone comment on the internet

on what chapter is that arc again..?

You asked someone with goldfish memory. But something something between 160 to 180

that is a problem with a lot of the manhuas (Chinese). I tend to love their story telling, and the art of manhuas but unfortunately its hit or miss it its translated.
I hope is picked up

Your not alone I was like that before I stopped reading hoping shii gets better ( fingers cross if it do

It’s always very concerning reading these types of stories involving BDSM exactly bc a lot of the time they aren’t portrayed safely and anyone can run with what whatever they see, you’re not wrong for being upset by this chapter. MC would’ve been extremely hurt irl if this actually happened

I totally get what you're saying. I feel very very similarly whenever choking or breath play happens in a story. Choking is something that is very simple as a concept and people assume is an "easy kinky thing" to bring to the bedroom because it provides thrill without needing any toys or materials. That means a lot of everyday people try to copy it because they see it as a casual, approachable thing. But in actuality it's really dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. Honestly, it's still dangerous even if you DO know what you're doing. These things require education on technique, understanding of the body, and a solid knowledge of how to handle the situation if something goes wrong.

I totally understand feeling frustrated and upset by seeing a serious thing that could cause genuine harm being portrayed casually in a fictional setting. Even if it IS supposed to be viewed as fantasy and not reality, it doesn't mean that all people know that and why a *do not try this at home* would be appreciated. You have every right to feel the way you do and I'm very grateful for you choosing to share what you know. I hope that you're able to still enjoy this story and embrace the fantasy of it if that's something you want to do. And if not, that's totally okay and understandable.

Ive actually heard that theres been an increase of cases of brain injury particularly in women and its leaked to choking i guess it being protrayed so casualy and often in porn men just do without any knowledge of how to it safely.

For those curious, I did some research and I have linked an article below that has the most comprehensive info I've seen! It puts into context that this type of thing is indeed super risky, requires a lot of knowledge to do safely, and could have permanently damaging outcomes but that it's also around the same level of risk as something like breath play, rope bondage, or certain types of sharps play. They were at the limit, mind you, but it was still within the realm of RACK or PRICK type play. Hopefully that brings peace of mind to anyone who may have been unsure, though I do agree that there should definitely be a *don't try this at home* for reader's safety.

This article also explains why the sub may have been struggling to pee even after the sound was taken out, which I find super interesting. And the fact that the Dom knew how to actually help showed that he did his research, which I super appreciate.

https://www.healthline.com/health/how-long-can-you-go-without-peeing

All I could think about was his kidneys

Thank you for consistently providing helpful information for everyone's safety. Not just with this topic but also breath play and other significantly more risky kinks.

I'd also like to point out that simply leaving MC to go about his day and not being around is another factor that I have hard time accepting. Because I heard stories about people who were too embarrassed about their kinks to visit ER which endangered them even more.
Additionally, I want to point out that while research gives legitimate estimation about how many hours are safe, there are alway people who are the exception. And one shouldn't count on just acquired information but stay with their partner and determine where the limits are, based on them only.

Anyway, I think it might have been clear from my post that this topic was a bit personal to me. Which is why its portrayal triggered me so much. I actually experienced something along those lines, not in a kinky way but circumstantially. For me it only took couple of hours before I couldn't even straighten my back because of how much my kidneys hurt. Going to the bathroom afterwards was the most painful experience. Later an ultrasound at the urologists showed that my kidneys show signs of urine retracting back.
For me, it wasn't actually dangerous, like I said it was because of circumstances and I acted immediately when the pain came, but in this manhwa... I have serious doubts.

Now I just want to clarify that it's okay to read this manhwa and enjoy it. I guess it just might not be my cup of tea. And I needed to voice it out.

Absolutely! And again, thank you for sharing what you shared as well. Full disclosure, the information you shared made me realize where my knowledge was lacking and it drove me to want to understand more, which is why I did research.

And I absolutely agree about not relying on acquired information. It's important to learn about certain kinks and types of play, and test limits with new types of play, slowly to make sure everyone is aware of boundaries and safety. In the real world this wouldn't be a thing partners should just jump into based on generalized research numbers, for sure. My attempt with the research I shared was to show the happy medium between reality/ the actual limitations of the human body this author was presenting and fantasy. I wanted to give the author a bit of good faith as well as support the information that you shared, too. I hope that me trying to express those things didn't make you feel dismissed or make you feel like your experiences weren't respected.

What you went through must have been scary and I'm glad you're okay. It totally makes sense and is valid that reading about something that was a painful experience for you personally in this type of casual-feeling, sexualized context would turn you off on this series. If you're looking for series that explore other types of kink that you feel more comfortable with and interested in, I might have some recs if you want them!

That's very possible, honestly. Most of the research I have regarding sexual choking/ breath play and the negative impact from unsafe practices is surrounding college students/ college-aged people. I would be super interested in more statistics from other demographics.

In porn with professionals, especially professional femmedoms, they almost always know the safety limits for choking (think like actors who sword fight for a movie. They gotta train a fuckton to be able to wield a sword accurately and safely on screen) but with amateurs/ every day people filming porn that's a lot less likely. The real risk is when non-kinky/ vanilla people see sexual choking as normalized and easily approachable and then don't do research before doing it at home.

I'm happy to share the knowledge and resources I have for anyone wanting to learn about breath play and sexual choking. Just lmk!

Oh you absolutely didn't make me feel dismissed or anything like that, I just wanted to continue the conversation with things that might have not been fully emphasized yet and sharing my own experience added credibility to my words. Because, as one other reader said in different comment, this whole comment section is VERY informative and I wanted to add to it. Plus I also think you have great takes and I wanted to keep the conversation going.

Actually, not necessarily about manga recs (although those are always welcomed and appreciated), but about kinks on personal level... would you be fine if we talk a bit through messages maybe?

I agree, I'm always glad when a comments section can be informative in both a real life education/experience level and also a "here's where to find more series like this" level.

And yeah, I'm always down to chat and have an open back and forth. Feel free to DM me!

Somebody reposted old chapter and trolling with my emotion ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

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It’s because, unfortunately, those terrible situations are just another day for the mc, and they keep moving forward with the plan (I think ryujin needs to be able to drive for the plan to continue). And Haebum tortures people and then just goes about his day like everything is normal, smh.