I liked it despite whatever it is i mean what I can expect from a manga that published in 2005 uke did cheat but had no choice he got blackmailed cuz he didn't wanted seme to know about his dark past also it's like taste of it's own medicine seme also raped uke so he ain't saint to begin with but uke in between going round on dark paths , also for the cousin of seme she thought she was pregnant she took uke for abortion cuz she wanted a company but that one guy who saw them going together to hospital made me laugh so bad at that scene i always feel that girls in old yaois are somewhat bold anyway this one is not bad i expect it to be nice reading it.
seme raped him!?? this is no romance.. uke has no concept of self-worth due to trauma and ptsd. seme raped him and uke was easily manipulated emotionally
Nakano didn't cheat you mthrfckrs. He was blackmailed by Arisaka, so he had no choice but to have sex with him. Yasushi did the same thing to him in the prequel. Their relationship started with blackmail and rape. Nakano is the real victim here. He was raped and bullied in school. He was blackmailed and raped by Yasushi. And then he was blackmailed and raped by Arisaka. I wish Nakano ended up with Kousei instead. Tho Kousei has Kenji already.
So this work has characters you'd want to murder namely Yasushi. He's too insecure of Kousei and forceful to Nakano. He didn't even stop his ex from harassing Nakano. Kanako. The ex and cousin of Yasushi who tortured Nakano emotionally. Even asking him to accompany her to the dr for abortion of Yasushi's child. She's a bitch I wanna slap. On the face. With a chair. Until she drops dead. Kuro. He's too annoying. He's not cute. Arisaka. He blackmailed and raped Nakano. He deserves to die. He's also a friend of one of the boys that raped and bullied Nakano in school. He should have just fall off the building and die. He's a piece of shit anyway.
Not only was that shit super fucking toxic. But are you telling me just because he couldn’t have sex with his boyfriend for two days he fucked someone else then went home & fucked his boyfriend anyways? Like tf?!? Lmfao. Like wow dude. Trauma based or not. Fuck you. Wtf lmfao
Arisaka blackmalied him into it. Nakano was scared Arisaka would tell Yasushi of his dark past, so he had no choice but to give in. Victim blaming. I see.
It is funny how people take rape as a minor inconvenience when it comes to yaoi mangas. The uke is the victim of rape with strong ptsds and self image and respect problems and ya all are like 'he should man up, he should learn how to fight it off'. A male being raped is a real thing and by having mindset like you idiots do, you are making situation worse for rape victims. I am not saying the cheating is a right thing to do (as a matter of fact I detest cheating) but could you expect anything different from uke? He was blackmailed, he was scared to lose the man he loves and the only thing he knows is sex. I think his character is really good because he is acting tough and all but in reality he is like a little lost kid who is mourning his lost childhood and innocence. And ya'all are hypocrites, when seme raped him no one said anything. I don't see hate for seme??? Where is it?
Yes exactly and please the uke did not cheat! For the last time. Y'all call rape cheating? Is that it? natsuhi
Was it rape? Blackmail is blackmail. But 2 days bro & didn’t say anything & still fucked him? Like I get it. Rape is bad regardless. But I didn’t see it as rape. Was what was happening messed up? A 1000%. My brain hurts now. No I’m not victim blaming.
Was it rape? Blackmail is blackmail. But 2 days bro & didn’t say anything & still fucked him? Like I get it. Rape is bad regardless. But I didn’t see it as rape. Was what was happening messed up? A ... IndigoAkuma
I’m not looking at it as he should man up. I know about rape & have experienced it myself. I know he was raped in the beginning more than once. I wasn’t talking about it that way. What I was saying was even when scared you should talk to the person/s you love. Even when scared. I was mad that he stayed but didn’t make any moves to be more open. And again, before by afraid to lose someone doesn’t mean your actions are without consequences. The semes in this are fucked up. I never said they weren’t. I didn’t personally overlook any of it. It just annoyed me that instead of saying his feelings he just went with what was happening. His fear of being alone. But he himself doesn’t do anything to make his relationships real relationships. Using sex as a coping mechanism isn’t right. It just makes it much worse. But again this is a fictional story. And yes men can be raped too.
I’m not looking at it as he should man up. I know about rape & have experienced it myself. I know he was raped in the beginning more than once. I wasn’t talking about it that way. What I was saying was ... IndigoAkuma
That was very courageous of you to let us know and I believe you. It's a terrible and horrific thing.
Your previous comment made it seem like the uke did not get rape so that made me upset. Yes, men can be raped too which is why I'm very confused why some of the comments are saying that it's cheating when the uke was clearly rape.
My bad for the confusion. I wouldn’t blame everything he did on just him. It just sucked that the uke had a chance to be honest but didn’t. Oh but again, the semes in this were complete trash. I mean yeah the boyfriend “tried” to change & apologize I guess but still. And dude who was blackmailing is the lowest of lowest. His reasoning was simply because he “liked him” but wasn’t acknowledged. Like wtf is that? Also, I never mind about being open about things like that. Being a female that “developed early” is hard. Being female period is hard. But I also know of real life men who were raped by women. So, I get it. Thank you for being honest with me:)
I’m not looking at it as he should man up. I know about rape & have experienced it myself. I know he was raped in the beginning more than once. I wasn’t talking about it that way. What I was saying was ... IndigoAkuma
Omgs, I am so sorry to hear that! I hope everything will be alright, and if you need to talk I am here (even tho I am a stranger- sometimes I find that talking to a stranger is easier that to someone you cherish and love). I understand what you are saying, the communication is the base of every relationship. I just think that lot of people jump to conclusions straight away. And my comment was more like my general frustration because people usually don't regard rape as something worrying (in mangas ofc, but that makes me wonder what is their mindset because I see many comments on various mangas like 'yeah he raped him but he is sooo hoot so it doesn't matter).
My bad for the confusion. I wouldn’t blame everything he did on just him. It just sucked that the uke had a chance to be honest but didn’t. Oh but again, the semes in this were complete trash. I mean yeah t... IndigoAkuma
Honestly, when I post something I expect and enjoy various opinions. That is the point of discussing things! I forgot the exact story (it's been looong) but I agree with you! I wish that there were no people who have to go throught trauma of being violated! It makes me so mad that someone thinks that they can abuse someone, in any way! Why are some people like that???
Honestly, when I post something I expect and enjoy various opinions. That is the point of discussing things! I forgot the exact story (it's been looong) but I agree with you! I wish that there were no people wh... RogueWolf
Thank you for your honesty. And yeah I get that. People think it’s fake so it’s not that bad or something. It’s weird. And I don’t know why people assume abuse is the solution to things. It’s not real if you have to force it. That’s how I feel for relationships. It’s wild. And I’ve read ALOT of crazy BL. It’s a lot. Lmao. But I still like reading it. Also, thank you for your kind words:)
It's still stupid af people are sympathizing Nakano because he was "blackmailed into having sex" when he's supposed to know how much Yasushi loves him and trust him from the beginning. He had sex with Jin because he's scared that his past will be revealed but then suddenly tells Jin he doesn't care if Jin tells Yasushi? He should have told him that from the start then!
Someone bellow said the same thing about cheating... but I don't see any cheating done ? You're talking about Nakano and the guy in the last chapter, right ? Wasn't it just blackmailing, even at the very beginning ? Nakano wasn't feling frustrated and didn't look for him to relieve himself like the other guy implies, but the other guy came to the construction site, already knew Nakano from his past and blackmailed him in order to sleep with him, threatening him to reveal everything if he did'nt agree. That's why in the first pages of the last chapter, Nakano is washing his hands again and again and doesn't want Yasushi to touch him. He didn't take any pleasure, he didn't wanted it, it was forced from the beginning. Nakano hates this past so much that he doesn't want Yasushi to know about it because he fears that otherwise, he will leave him. Isn't it like that ? Did I miss completly the point ??
The guy he did it with was commenting on how loose he is cause the seme had not touched him in a while. Another side note, even if he was black mailed, rather than being honest and knowing he did the right thing in telling the seme he'd rather let another guy gold him just vecause hes afraid of being rejected? It didnt even matter since the seme found out in the end anyways. The uke shouldve just been upfront rathet letting the seme hear it from the other guy of what theyve done and the ukes past.
The comment on his loosness was not to take seriously, I think. It was just a slut-shaming comment, or at least I think so. I agree that he didn't make the right decision. But, well, they rarely do in yaoi's world anyway, especially when it comes to communication（￣へ￣）
Someone bellow said the same thing about cheating... but I don't see any cheating done ? You're talking about Nakano and the guy in the last chapter, right ? Wasn't it just blackmailing, even at the very beginn... Cricri
You nailed it. This us one of my favorite authors and she has this kind of style, like uke did it with other guy blahblah... but I so love the story that it feels like it can be applied irl(▰˘◡˘▰)
The guy he did it with was commenting on how loose he is cause the seme had not touched him in a while. Another side note, even if he was black mailed, rather than being honest and knowing he did the right thin... Right in the kokoro
i get he blackmailed him,but he couldnt of punched him as many times he punched his boyfriend...so i dont get why he cheated or let the guyy take advantage just a sign of weakness to me lol
i get he blackmailed him,but he couldnt of punched him as many times he punched his boyfriend...so i dont get why he cheated or let the guyy take advantage just a sign of weakness to me lol Jovi
You're right, but the terme of the blackmailing was "I'll tell everything, unless you sleep with me". Punching him wouldn't have prevented him of revealing everyhting later on. I guess that, in his mind, his only three options were : letting him reveal everything ; get raped by him ; punching him to - litteraly - death... I guess he felt really cornered. But I agree with you. He should have punched him really hard, and then talked to his boyfriend anyway, in order to prevent the other one of revealing everything. But we're talking about yaoi... Logic does not always prevail !
Someone bellow said the same thing about cheating... but I don't see any cheating done ? You're talking about Nakano and the guy in the last chapter, right ? Wasn't it just blackmailing, even at the very beginn... Cricri
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I liked it despite whatever it is i mean what I can expect from a manga that published in 2005 uke did cheat but had no choice he got blackmailed cuz he didn't wanted seme to know about his dark past also it's like taste of it's own medicine seme also raped uke so he ain't saint to begin with but uke in between going round on dark paths , also for the cousin of seme she thought she was pregnant she took uke for abortion cuz she wanted a company but that one guy who saw them going together to hospital made me laugh so bad at that scene i always feel that girls in old yaois are somewhat bold anyway this one is not bad i expect it to be nice reading it.
seme raped him!?? this is no romance.. uke has no concept of self-worth due to trauma and ptsd. seme raped him and uke was easily manipulated emotionally
Wtf did i just read.....
Nakano didn't cheat you mthrfckrs. He was blackmailed by Arisaka, so he had no choice but to have sex with him.
Yasushi did the same thing to him in the prequel. Their relationship started with blackmail and rape.
Nakano is the real victim here. He was raped and bullied in school. He was blackmailed and raped by Yasushi. And then he was blackmailed and raped by Arisaka.
I wish Nakano ended up with Kousei instead. Tho Kousei has Kenji already.
So this work has characters you'd want to murder namely
Yasushi. He's too insecure of Kousei and forceful to Nakano. He didn't even stop his ex from harassing Nakano.
Kanako. The ex and cousin of Yasushi who tortured Nakano emotionally. Even asking him to accompany her to the dr for abortion of Yasushi's child. She's a bitch I wanna slap. On the face. With a chair. Until she drops dead.
Kuro. He's too annoying. He's not cute.
Arisaka. He blackmailed and raped Nakano. He deserves to die. He's also a friend of one of the boys that raped and bullied Nakano in school. He should have just fall off the building and die. He's a piece of shit anyway.
Not only was that shit super fucking toxic. But are you telling me just because he couldn’t have sex with his boyfriend for two days he fucked someone else then went home & fucked his boyfriend anyways? Like tf?!? Lmfao. Like wow dude. Trauma based or not. Fuck you. Wtf lmfao
Arisaka blackmalied him into it. Nakano was scared Arisaka would tell Yasushi of his dark past, so he had no choice but to give in. Victim blaming. I see.
ah, the comments are so chaotic
i feel conflicted cause it feels like cheating but also blackmail at the same time tbh
idk what to feel
edit: looking back on it, it really was blackmail and it will be called as rape for me,
poor uke he's always raped like wtf
It is funny how people take rape as a minor inconvenience when it comes to yaoi mangas. The uke is the victim of rape with strong ptsds and self image and respect problems and ya all are like 'he should man up, he should learn how to fight it off'. A male being raped is a real thing and by having mindset like you idiots do, you are making situation worse for rape victims. I am not saying the cheating is a right thing to do (as a matter of fact I detest cheating) but could you expect anything different from uke? He was blackmailed, he was scared to lose the man he loves and the only thing he knows is sex. I think his character is really good because he is acting tough and all but in reality he is like a little lost kid who is mourning his lost childhood and innocence. And ya'all are hypocrites, when seme raped him no one said anything. I don't see hate for seme??? Where is it?
Yes exactly and please the uke did not cheat! For the last time. Y'all call rape cheating? Is that it?
Was it rape? Blackmail is blackmail. But 2 days bro & didn’t say anything & still fucked him? Like I get it. Rape is bad regardless. But I didn’t see it as rape. Was what was happening messed up? A 1000%. My brain hurts now. No I’m not victim blaming.
Yes it was RAPE.
What is rape to you?
I’m not looking at it as he should man up. I know about rape & have experienced it myself. I know he was raped in the beginning more than once. I wasn’t talking about it that way. What I was saying was even when scared you should talk to the person/s you love. Even when scared. I was mad that he stayed but didn’t make any moves to be more open. And again, before by afraid to lose someone doesn’t mean your actions are without consequences. The semes in this are fucked up. I never said they weren’t. I didn’t personally overlook any of it. It just annoyed me that instead of saying his feelings he just went with what was happening. His fear of being alone. But he himself doesn’t do anything to make his relationships real relationships. Using sex as a coping mechanism isn’t right. It just makes it much worse. But again this is a fictional story. And yes men can be raped too.
That was very courageous of you to let us know and I believe you. It's a terrible and horrific thing.
Your previous comment made it seem like the uke did not get rape so that made me upset. Yes, men can be raped too which is why I'm very confused why some of the comments are saying that it's cheating when the uke was clearly rape.
My bad for the confusion. I wouldn’t blame everything he did on just him. It just sucked that the uke had a chance to be honest but didn’t. Oh but again, the semes in this were complete trash. I mean yeah the boyfriend “tried” to change & apologize I guess but still. And dude who was blackmailing is the lowest of lowest. His reasoning was simply because he “liked him” but wasn’t acknowledged. Like wtf is that? Also, I never mind about being open about things like that. Being a female that “developed early” is hard. Being female period is hard. But I also know of real life men who were raped by women. So, I get it. Thank you for being honest with me:)
Omgs, I am so sorry to hear that! I hope everything will be alright, and if you need to talk I am here (even tho I am a stranger- sometimes I find that talking to a stranger is easier that to someone you cherish and love). I understand what you are saying, the communication is the base of every relationship. I just think that lot of people jump to conclusions straight away. And my comment was more like my general frustration because people usually don't regard rape as something worrying (in mangas ofc, but that makes me wonder what is their mindset because I see many comments on various mangas like 'yeah he raped him but he is sooo hoot so it doesn't matter).
Honestly, when I post something I expect and enjoy various opinions. That is the point of discussing things! I forgot the exact story (it's been looong) but I agree with you! I wish that there were no people who have to go throught trauma of being violated! It makes me so mad that someone thinks that they can abuse someone, in any way! Why are some people like that???
Thank you for your honesty. And yeah I get that. People think it’s fake so it’s not that bad or something. It’s weird. And I don’t know why people assume abuse is the solution to things. It’s not real if you have to force it. That’s how I feel for relationships. It’s wild. And I’ve read ALOT of crazy BL. It’s a lot. Lmao. But I still like reading it. Also, thank you for your kind words:)
It's still stupid af people are sympathizing Nakano because he was "blackmailed into having sex" when he's supposed to know how much Yasushi loves him and trust him from the beginning. He had sex with Jin because he's scared that his past will be revealed but then suddenly tells Jin he doesn't care if Jin tells Yasushi? He should have told him that from the start then!
Dont like the ukeee..fuck
This is messed up, i dont even know who i should be mad at. Ugh (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Someone bellow said the same thing about cheating... but I don't see any cheating done ? You're talking about Nakano and the guy in the last chapter, right ? Wasn't it just blackmailing, even at the very beginning ? Nakano wasn't feling frustrated and didn't look for him to relieve himself like the other guy implies, but the other guy came to the construction site, already knew Nakano from his past and blackmailed him in order to sleep with him, threatening him to reveal everything if he did'nt agree. That's why in the first pages of the last chapter, Nakano is washing his hands again and again and doesn't want Yasushi to touch him. He didn't take any pleasure, he didn't wanted it, it was forced from the beginning.
Nakano hates this past so much that he doesn't want Yasushi to know about it because he fears that otherwise, he will leave him.
Isn't it like that ? Did I miss completly the point ??
The guy he did it with was commenting on how loose he is cause the seme had not touched him in a while. Another side note, even if he was black mailed, rather than being honest and knowing he did the right thing in telling the seme he'd rather let another guy gold him just vecause hes afraid of being rejected? It didnt even matter since the seme found out in the end anyways. The uke shouldve just been upfront rathet letting the seme hear it from the other guy of what theyve done and the ukes past.
The comment on his loosness was not to take seriously, I think. It was just a slut-shaming comment, or at least I think so.
I agree that he didn't make the right decision. But, well, they rarely do in yaoi's world anyway, especially when it comes to communication（￣へ￣）
You nailed it.
This us one of my favorite authors and she has this kind of style, like uke did it with other guy blahblah... but I so love the story that it feels like it can be applied irl(▰˘◡˘▰)
i get he blackmailed him,but he couldnt of punched him as many times he punched his boyfriend...so i dont get why he cheated or let the guyy take advantage just a sign of weakness to me lol
You're right, but the terme of the blackmailing was "I'll tell everything, unless you sleep with me". Punching him wouldn't have prevented him of revealing everyhting later on. I guess that, in his mind, his only three options were : letting him reveal everything ; get raped by him ; punching him to - litteraly - death... I guess he felt really cornered.
But I agree with you. He should have punched him really hard, and then talked to his boyfriend anyway, in order to prevent the other one of revealing everything.
But we're talking about yaoi... Logic does not always prevail !
You are on point!
I truly thought Kuro had a main role so kept reading hoping that he ended up with the boss (what’s his face) ╮(￣▽￣)╭
If you are still interested, the story about him is out now,abudage or something like this. I like it a lot (not finished tho).