Yes, there's a lot of miscommunication with their relationship. However, mscommunication should not be a green light cheat on your partner. Either you break up with them or talk it out because cheating will only cause heart ache for both parties. Kyouka's persistence was irritating, during the beginning homura clearly stated that touji was his lover, from that point on kyouka should've given up. Even if he continued Homura should've never given slight hope to kyouka because that would only hurt touji and kyouka. The part where it really got me livid was when homura allowed kyouka to take him, that was where I was fighting the urge not to drop the story. Touji should've explained his plan in the first place because anyone would feel insecure if they hear from a third party that your partner is getting married. If you give consent, Cheating is cheating not matter the circumstances. If that were to happen to me, I would've dropped the person because from that point on, the trust that I once had will no longer be there.
Actually here the thing is that Homura if he's not sure or have sooo many insecurities in the love with Touji he should've cleared it from start! Homura kinda messed up all things!! And also he leads our cute and Innocent Kuyoya into the mess as well by not directly showing his feelings and using him to forget or run away from Touji. I would say yeah Homura is not that much wrong here because he was Right about the rumour of Rivals being in love one of them could be the target! But if he was concerning this much of things then better should've stated everything from the start! Well it's a good but complicated story!
I like how everyone is calling out the Uke for cheating....I feel like just break up before you get with someone else or like communicate and don’t just assume....and don’t you just find it hurtful (this is those saying the uke did nothing wrong) when someone you love gets with someone else based on assumptions and revenge He in turn led another person on and hurt Kyouya....imagine how hurt the poor guy would be and stop saying he forced Homura....he didn’t force, he was persistent yes but homura had always been saying No and all of a sudden he agrees because as we all know he was trying to get back at Touiju (mind the spelling) No seriously that’s really low and unfair to the both Seme’s I just feel communication is key
Not because there was cheating, cause there was non.
1) uke got to know seme is getting married without even telling uke anything. 2) uke having sex with brat just to forget that and moving on without telling seme. 3) CHEATER = communication! . . . So all in all, both got what they wanted... But I didn't...
The fact that Homura was told that Touji himself proposed and confirmed it justifies Homura ignoring him. Touji was the one that decided to do this without informing him so how was Homura supposed to know it wasn't real. I base this opinion on the fact that I was in a similar situation where there was a miscommunication in my relationship and I got so pissed off that I didn't want to talk to them ever again so I refused to answer their call so his actions made total sense. At that point I thought that our relationship was over since it seemed like they cheated on me. I also kept somebody close to me who I knew liked me during the "break up" because it made me feel better. (I didn't go as far to sleep with the person but they weren't as persistent as Kyouya) So he thought the relationship was over and Touji even when he found out what happened didn't try to correct Homura so it can't be considered cheating. If anything you can feel bad for Kyouya if you want since Homura used him but in my opinion how obsessive Kyouya was he was asking for it and I have no sympathy for him. I think he understood as well since he bowed out so easily at the end there instead of making a huge fuss about being used.
Regarding Homura's other actions I personally understand cuz I kind of relate to the anxiety and relationship especially when somebody that you love. when you really love somebody it already clouds your judgment and when you have anxiety due to other factors like he did with the groups and it just made it harder for him to accept the love Touji was giving.
It's really interesting because I read this 10 years ago and I remember also getting really annoyed about the whole situation and how Homura slept with someone else but obviously after 10 years and experiencing relationships as well as love I really relate to Homura and really enjoyed the whole story now. It's really interesting how your views changed the older you get when it comes to reading these types of books. Sorry for long rant. Lol
Actually I have the same opinion. It pains me that Homura slept with another to forget and feel good about himself. I feel bad for Kyouya for being used, although he himself my not consider it like that as he was so in love as well. Touji on the other hand wanted to resolve things that may worry Homura given they are from different and maybe a rival group. Now that I am an adult I can't say I can justify cheating, rather I see things in another perspective. If you've watched "Friends" does the story of Rachel and Ross come to mind? Can we really blame Ross at that moment?
Honestly I feel sorry for kyouya. The uke gave him hope that he might love him and the seme used kyouya's weak point to get rid of him which is so annoying so kyouya got his heart played like tennis by the uke and the seme
I was so irked by the uke’s bullshit. He start a relationship with Kyouya despite still having the seme in his heart. Personally, I think that’s the worst thing you can do to your SO. It’s worst than cheating. If you’re going to use Kyouya anyway, don’t give him the illusion that you return those feelings. It’s not fair to Kyouya. I wanted to blows the uke’s head off when the uke picked up the seme’s phone call while in presence of Kyouya and said that he wants to see him. What the fuck? (╬￣皿￣)凸
Umm excuse me.. wtf was that.. do you fcking kiss anybody just coz you're misunderstanding sth.. you have to atleast clear it up with your partner first.. I--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm fcking speechless.... WTF BITCH.. you fcking have sex with someone just like that... NO FCKING NO... FCK YOU UKE.. FCK OFF (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON ANYMORE.. I'M GETTING MAD WITH EACH PASSING CHAPTER... THE UKE'S SO DETESTABLE FCK HIM.. FCK YOU UKE... FCK OFF.. Ik it was Touji's fault for not telling uke about the plan but he has been clearly telling uke he fcking loves him what more proof should be given to show his love damn... And neither did uke took any initiative by asking him about the whole situation.. I feel so bad about the other seme l, poor baby he was just fcking played by that trash of a uke
I 100% agree, you can't just fuck someone just because of a misunderstanding... remember they are still together they didn't broke up.. So uke is an idiot..
I disagree.The other seme is pushy and force the uke to see him.The seme follow the flow Eve_7
Did you say force He did no such thing....he was persistent not forceful that makes nor sense Forceful is different from persistent And the uke had been refusing him since so........there’s no excuse don’t blame it on the Kyouya just because he was in love and wouldn’t let go by saying he was forceful and forced the uke to date him
Did you say force He did no such thing....he was persistent not forceful that makes nor sense Forceful is different from persistent And the uke had been refusing him since so........there’s no excuse don’t ... Tsunmimi
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I know he's having a hard time and there's also that thing cool off yet he go straight to bed waah
I don’t feel bad for Kyouya. He tried to break up a relationship by being persistent while knowing the uke and seme were together.
uke is a whore, seme deserves someone better
Yes, there's a lot of miscommunication with their relationship. However, mscommunication should not be a green light cheat on your partner. Either you break up with them or talk it out because cheating will only cause heart ache for both parties. Kyouka's persistence was irritating, during the beginning homura clearly stated that touji was his lover, from that point on kyouka should've given up. Even if he continued Homura should've never given slight hope to kyouka because that would only hurt touji and kyouka. The part where it really got me livid was when homura allowed kyouka to take him, that was where I was fighting the urge not to drop the story.
Touji should've explained his plan in the first place because anyone would feel insecure if they hear from a third party that your partner is getting married.
If you give consent, Cheating is cheating not matter the circumstances. If that were to happen to me, I would've dropped the person because from that point on, the trust that I once had will no longer be there.
Actually here the thing is that Homura if he's not sure or have sooo many insecurities in the love with Touji he should've cleared it from start! Homura kinda messed up all things!! And also he leads our cute and Innocent Kuyoya into the mess as well by not directly showing his feelings and using him to forget or run away from Touji. I would say yeah Homura is not that much wrong here because he was Right about the rumour of Rivals being in love one of them could be the target! But if he was concerning this much of things then better should've stated everything from the start! Well it's a good but complicated story!
I like how everyone is calling out the Uke for cheating....I feel like just break up before you get with someone else or like communicate and don’t just assume....and don’t you just find it hurtful (this is those saying the uke did nothing wrong) when someone you love gets with someone else based on assumptions and revenge
He in turn led another person on and hurt Kyouya....imagine how hurt the poor guy would be and stop saying he forced Homura....he didn’t force, he was persistent yes but homura had always been saying No and all of a sudden he agrees because as we all know he was trying to get back at Touiju (mind the spelling)
No seriously that’s really low and unfair to the both Seme’s
I just feel communication is key
Not because there was cheating, cause there was non.
1) uke got to know seme is getting married without even telling uke anything.
2) uke having sex with brat just to forget that and moving on without telling seme.
3) CHEATER = communication!
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So all in all, both got what they wanted... But I didn't...
The fact that Homura was told that Touji himself proposed and confirmed it justifies Homura ignoring him. Touji was the one that decided to do this without informing him so how was Homura supposed to know it wasn't real.
I base this opinion on the fact that I was in a similar situation where there was a miscommunication in my relationship and I got so pissed off that I didn't want to talk to them ever again so I refused to answer their call so his actions made total sense. At that point I thought that our relationship was over since it seemed like they cheated on me.
I also kept somebody close to me who I knew liked me during the "break up" because it made me feel better.
(I didn't go as far to sleep with the person but they weren't as persistent as Kyouya)
So he thought the relationship was over and Touji even when he found out what happened didn't try to correct Homura so it can't be considered cheating.
If anything you can feel bad for Kyouya if you want since Homura used him but in my opinion how obsessive Kyouya was he was asking for it and I have no sympathy for him. I think he understood as well since he bowed out so easily at the end there instead of making a huge fuss about being used.
Regarding Homura's other actions I personally understand cuz I kind of relate to the anxiety and relationship especially when somebody that you love.
when you really love somebody it already clouds your judgment and when you have anxiety due to other factors like he did with the groups and it just made it harder for him to accept the love Touji was giving.
It's really interesting because I read this 10 years ago and I remember also getting really annoyed about the whole situation and how Homura slept with someone else but obviously after 10 years and experiencing relationships as well as love I really relate to Homura and really enjoyed the whole story now.
It's really interesting how your views changed the older you get when it comes to reading these types of books.
Sorry for long rant. Lol
Actually I have the same opinion. It pains me that Homura slept with another to forget and feel good about himself. I feel bad for Kyouya for being used, although he himself my not consider it like that as he was so in love as well. Touji on the other hand wanted to resolve things that may worry Homura given they are from different and maybe a rival group. Now that I am an adult I can't say I can justify cheating, rather I see things in another perspective. If you've watched "Friends" does the story of Rachel and Ross come to mind? Can we really blame Ross at that moment?
This uke is a trash...seme deserves someone better... Who needs a cheater (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
Honestly I feel sorry for kyouya. The uke gave him hope that he might love him and the seme used kyouya's weak point to get rid of him which is so annoying so kyouya got his heart played like tennis by the uke and the seme
Read Gravity Eyes from this mangaka.
I read it it was good
I was so irked by the uke’s bullshit. He start a relationship with Kyouya despite still having the seme in his heart. Personally, I think that’s the worst thing you can do to your SO. It’s worst than cheating. If you’re going to use Kyouya anyway, don’t give him the illusion that you return those feelings. It’s not fair to Kyouya. I wanted to blows the uke’s head off when the uke picked up the seme’s phone call while in presence of Kyouya and said that he wants to see him. What the fuck? (╬￣皿￣)凸
This manga’s the most disrespectful shit I’ve come across.
God I don't remember this manga or other manga I recommended at all or why did I recommended.
Umm excuse me.. wtf was that.. do you fcking kiss anybody just coz you're misunderstanding sth.. you have to atleast clear it up with your partner first..
I--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm fcking speechless.... WTF BITCH.. you fcking have sex with someone just like that... NO FCKING NO... FCK YOU UKE.. FCK OFF (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ (┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON ANYMORE.. I'M GETTING MAD WITH EACH PASSING CHAPTER... THE UKE'S SO DETESTABLE FCK HIM.. FCK YOU UKE... FCK OFF..
Ik it was Touji's fault for not telling uke about the plan but he has been clearly telling uke he fcking loves him what more proof should be given to show his love damn... And neither did uke took any initiative by asking him about the whole situation..
I feel so bad about the other seme l, poor baby he was just fcking played by that trash of a uke
I disagree.
The other seme is pushy and force the uke to see him.
The seme follow the flow
I 100% agree, you can't just fuck someone just because of a misunderstanding... remember they are still together they didn't broke up.. So uke is an idiot..
Did you say force
He did no such thing....he was persistent not forceful that makes nor sense
Forceful is different from persistent
And the uke had been refusing him since so........there’s no excuse don’t blame it on the Kyouya just because he was in love and wouldn’t let go by saying he was forceful and forced the uke to date him
I still desagree
cute....okay okay I agree to disagree