Even if it's old yaoi I must still hate this kind of content. I ingest fucked up yaoi content and I would never whine about something being fucked up UNLESS it's made into a plot device and just glossed over only for the manga to have a happy ending. Hiroya the mc was literally and I mean literally written like a shoujo mc. It's not that hard making bottoms with a spine trust me. He wasn't horrible so I am gonna not rant too much about him. Anyways next comes the seme. How fucking insane do you have to be??? Bro is a full fledged rapist and stays friends with the guys who tried raping the one he liked???like are you guys sane or don't have any kind of morals whatsoever. But you know what? Seme was groomed by the pedophilia kanae. Worst character i have ever read about. There is no redemption of any kind for this guy. He is also a rapist mind you. Disgusting guy. Needs to get head shot. Who does he end up with? The brother of seme. Dear lord imagine being this down bad that you date the guy who groomed your younger brother and is also a rapist. Could never be me. Brother is fucked in his head too that's for sure cause SERIOUSLY who lies about someone having aids. He explained it only when he saw how the situation was worsening. Dear lord worst of all of them is the brother 100%.
The characters in this manga doesn't know what consent it. But considering this was an old yaoi, I guess its to be expected.
But I give it a + for talking about HIV, modern BL doesn't really discuss this anymore but at the same time for putting realistic themes in this manga why don't they use lube.
I know that this manga has a lot of bad qualities but I still really like it. Especially since it’s like the only one that talks about hiv. Never had that with manga.
Really weird how so many people here think that you shouldn’t engage critically with the media you consume lmao. That’s like the first rule of reading something; form some of your own thoughts. Criticism is okay. Good, even. This whole “Don’t like, don’t read,” thing really bugs me for some reason. I think that argument only works when it’s about a genre; don’t like romance? Don’t read it. Don’t like fantasy? Don’t read it. It’s not, “Don’t like rape? Triggered, even? Tough titties, I like it. That’s a you problem, and don’t go thinking you can freely express a critical opinion around here.”
Like, don’t try to vilify people who take umbrage with rape or pedophilia – what the fuck is that? Maybe take a step back and think about why you don’t have a problem with it? I, for one, don’t particularly care for rape or threats thereof as shitty plot devices. If that’s the sort of person you are, you really had ought to learn how to read critically. Like, “Why is this ‘classic’ BL manga so homophobic? Why do I like seeing closeted gay men scared and struggling?” I feel like these are the same people who genuinely think Lolita is a masterpiece lmfao.
Be my friend ヾ(☆▽☆) this is how I feel but I didn't have the words, cause all I read was 'go die or don't read then', and I couldn't process my anger abt ppl defending rape and pedophil characters
buuuuuuttt as the idiotic fucker I am I will read it anywas then go bury myself alive (possibly with the up of my sister shell do it for free) ლ(´ڡ`ლ) (▰˘◡˘▰)
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Even if it's old yaoi I must still hate this kind of content. I ingest fucked up yaoi content and I would never whine about something being fucked up UNLESS it's made into a plot device and just glossed over only for the manga to have a happy ending. Hiroya the mc was literally and I mean literally written like a shoujo mc. It's not that hard making bottoms with a spine trust me. He wasn't horrible so I am gonna not rant too much about him. Anyways next comes the seme. How fucking insane do you have to be??? Bro is a full fledged rapist and stays friends with the guys who tried raping the one he liked???like are you guys sane or don't have any kind of morals whatsoever. But you know what? Seme was groomed by the pedophilia kanae. Worst character i have ever read about. There is no redemption of any kind for this guy. He is also a rapist mind you. Disgusting guy. Needs to get head shot. Who does he end up with? The brother of seme. Dear lord imagine being this down bad that you date the guy who groomed your younger brother and is also a rapist. Could never be me. Brother is fucked in his head too that's for sure cause SERIOUSLY who lies about someone having aids. He explained it only when he saw how the situation was worsening. Dear lord worst of all of them is the brother 100%.
Kanae is a piece of shit. Masaki was a 7th grader? And his brother got jealous about him?
Masaki is a victim ;-;
The characters in this manga doesn't know what consent it. But considering this was an old yaoi, I guess its to be expected.
But I give it a + for talking about HIV, modern BL doesn't really discuss this anymore but at the same time for putting realistic themes in this manga why don't they use lube.
i love the art but on the first chapter i just had to drop it
Till the end, im still waiting for the answer to my question " where is the comedy?". Im waiting....(⌒▽⌒)
I miss the mangas like this~ like i read these back in 2011-2012 and there was so much angst i loved it. Its like a classic to me now lol
Same I rlly like the older manga or classic ones if you have any reccomendations plz give me some im running out of ones to read
I know that this manga has a lot of bad qualities but I still really like it. Especially since it’s like the only one that talks about hiv. Never had that with manga.
Really weird how so many people here think that you shouldn’t engage critically with the media you consume lmao. That’s like the first rule of reading something; form some of your own thoughts. Criticism is okay. Good, even. This whole “Don’t like, don’t read,” thing really bugs me for some reason. I think that argument only works when it’s about a genre; don’t like romance? Don’t read it. Don’t like fantasy? Don’t read it. It’s not, “Don’t like rape? Triggered, even? Tough titties, I like it. That’s a you problem, and don’t go thinking you can freely express a critical opinion around here.”
Like, don’t try to vilify people who take umbrage with rape or pedophilia – what the fuck is that? Maybe take a step back and think about why you don’t have a problem with it? I, for one, don’t particularly care for rape or threats thereof as shitty plot devices. If that’s the sort of person you are, you really had ought to learn how to read critically. Like, “Why is this ‘classic’ BL manga so homophobic? Why do I like seeing closeted gay men scared and struggling?” I feel like these are the same people who genuinely think Lolita is a masterpiece lmfao.
Be my friend ヾ(☆▽☆) this is how I feel but I didn't have the words, cause all I read was 'go die or don't read then', and I couldn't process my anger abt ppl defending rape and pedophil characters
Exactly! Damn well said. Ive never and id probably never will understand people defending pedophilia.
Is there any sequel for chisato and kanae?
buuuuuuttt as the idiotic fucker I am I will read it anywas then go bury myself alive (possibly with the up of my sister shell do it for free)
ლ(´ڡ`ლ) (▰˘◡˘▰)
LMAO want as bad a I thought(≧∀≦)
KILL ALL PAEDOPHILES!! And people who dislike it should die I’ll never forgive them guys and girls/ and those who accident did it it’s okay