Personally tho, stuff like "if you don't like it don't read it, it's just a fictional draw...

i totally agree with you, some ppl on this site are too tolerable towards the wrong thing. i tried to say the same thing as you and they just verbally abused me.

they make it seem "okay" by providing an audience to these disgusting tropes which encourages creators to include these types of gross situations. (rape/grooming/shotacon etc.) these are definitely NOT okay and reading that shit indiscriminately shows how they have a slight tolerance towards it. so no it's not okay just because it's fiction.

omg yes thank you for saying this. I've never been able to call out rape, pedophilia, and abuse without the entire community literally attacking me bc they can't fucking handle someone criticizing their favorite abuser. the people on this site esp are so used to all these horrible things that can happen to real people but they tell others to tolerate it bc it's fictional. if someone is allowed to compliment the story, others are allowed to critique it. in this one, I called it out for portraying rape in a fetishy manner, and like 5 incels came to it's defense and telling me to just leave as if I can't have my own fucking opinion. everyone here is so normalized to rape and sexual assault that's it's quite terrifying.

ikr like how are they so vacuous that they cannot see through their own hypocrisy. this one person literally tried to gaslight me when i called out a predatory incest relationship in a manga. they said that my mind is so fucked up to think stuff like that and said that i probably am a predator??? how tf did they turn it on me when i was calling it out, i was truly flabbergasted. like they were the one reading perverse fiction, not me????

'Cause the whole point of it is that it is fiction.

If we arrested, tried and hung every writer/creator for the fictional crimes they made then there would be no end to it. The moment your strawman argument falls apart when another example comes into play you've lost your point entirely lol

SAME! I tried to explain how grooming was wrong and they shouldn’t read it, and I was attacked for hours because of it. Like have some morals my God.

it's exactly bc it's fictional that people can criticize it as much as they want. esp bc so many young and impressionable people r reading these, their distinctions between fictional work or simply a reflection of society are blurred. no one is saying the creators deserve to be arrested. please as if the justice system even cares for actual victims, we're criticizing the work for glorifying topics that are disgusting. just as people are allowed to give positive input, people are allowed to shit on it bc it's makes them uncomfortable and is disrespectful towards real victims of sex crimes. once again, your "example" uses faulty logic. a 40 year old woman writing abt 2 14 year old boys having kinky sex isn't illegal, it's gross.

this is it. it's always ppl defending gross things in fiction that don't give facts or even opinions rather they attack the other person. that just explicitly shows you have no defense for your preferences of these disgusting tropes, all u do is call the other ppl sensitive. check ur own biases and maybe realise that you're so affected by fiction more than u realise. and maybe just maybe ur desensitised from reading shit like that rather than other ppl being overly sensitive.

Actually, there is a bigger problem than that, that strangely enough, no one ever discussed about it in comment section. I can't help but feel there are a lot of children who are in this site. Easily impressionable children should not be in this site.

Personally, I think the argument about fiction affecting life reminds me a lot about violence in video games. Do you personally think that people are so desentisized that they cannot tell the difference between real life and fiction? This is a huge slippery slope that no one here talks about.

I myself no fan of rape, and I drop this webtoon ever since I feel there is too many of them. Honestly, when it comes to stuff like this, it is all supply and demand. I heard as much as 50% of women have rape fantasies, and Yaoi are mostly made by women for women. As long as people consume things like this, rape won't ever go away. Look at the top list of Yaoi in this site, a lot of them has rape. If you want this stuff to go away, the best method is to stop supporting them. I'm against outright banning stuff that offends people because there would be no end of it.

nobody is saying that they won't be able to distinguish between reality and fiction. but u have to be considerably nescient to think that reading heavy material like this does not have actual real-life implications.

also idk what type of person you have to be to not be "offended" from reading about rape and toxic behaviour, it's not something anyone should accept (and even in some cases romanticise) about.

and i know it's not gonna be banned and neither did i suggest that it should be, but maybe if those stories with such tropes are categorised in genres like 'romance' it's spreading the wrong message.

you'd think that ppl can make their own opinions on what is right and wrong but these ideas don't just manifest outta nowhere. they are heavily influenced by the media you consume, either conscious or subconsciously.

if anything i said is misleading, i'd just like to clearly say i know that ppl have their own judgements and morals but you'd be surprised how impressionable minds are even when ur not young.

also ur point about children being on this site, yes i agree that it's a problem but it's not one that will ever be eradicated, there's not much you can do about that.

that's exactly why i like to call toxic shit out so that i can put something out there clearly exhibits how distasteful and disgusting some of these stories are so that i can break the unanimous positive response. it's not much but it at least allows for ppl to read it and challenge their own judgement.

if you want my opinion on violence in video games, i also do not think it's the cause of real-life aggression.

but i don't understand how you all use this single infamous study to back ur points when there are a surplus of other scientific studies that provide empirical evidence towards desensitisation.

ofc there are various debates but i can tell when ppl are under informed in such areas of social influence because that's the only study they decide to reference.