Stupid trope

EXACTLY. This is the point that came up in my analysis and then got hate for it.

Probably from the same shitty ppl too.

it is well within noah’s right to keep his child away from the man who raped him. him being the biological father does not matter at all. it just doesn’t.

Why is it Noah's right. Please explain.

He hid the child for 4+ years ....what RIGHT did he have to do that???

what the fuck do you mean why is it his right?? that is a child of RAPE not a break up??? do you hear yourself?? you think he should he co parenting with his rapist? fuck off

No. You f-cknoff. Why are you even cussing me out on someone else's post??? It's YOUR opinion that he's a ****. Not everyone sees the SAME THING as you, ok?!?

its not an opinion that he’s a rapist. it is a FACT. there is nothing you can say that would change the FACTS. ian RAPED noah whether intentional or not! for someone who claims to use critical thinking skills they’re pretty fucking shit.

Right, animals rape each other all of the time. Go shackle them then. Why bother arguing with me?!?

you’re very loudly wrong and somebody should tell you

Ayyy lemme join the conv. too

Well in my opinion. Ian does have the right to keep his child. As in the previous chapter, we saw that Ian broke up their FWB relationships, unaware (or aware? Still don't know yet) with Noah's feelings already budding inside him. So Noah presumed that he, himself as one of the lots who have sex with Ian. Plus his status as a "beta & ordinary kid" make people around look down on him. Yk that Ian's a richass alpha right? Like any other peole like him, people want to see him with same or even higher status than a beta like Noah. Bet he felt the same too.

What if the storyline change, where Noah confessed to Ian that they have sex, he sudden change to omega & pregnant with his kid, aren't that gonn make the situation worse? Like he need to abort the baby as his family wouldn't recognize him as his mate official, considering their status. Also, I think Noah's an orphan (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) He had no one else as his family, no one to talk with excluding the shop owner where he works after he arrived in Korea. So if I'm in Noah's place, I too would keep the baby as a new family member gonna be born soon by myself. If he can't get Ian to love him, at least he can get his kid to love him (a familial love ok)

We don't know yet if Ian do love Noah or just, well, toying with him all this time... It would be devastated for Noah if he know that Ian doesn't love him back... And the bite situation... Its all from pheromones, basically their animal-like instict during heat. Considering how Ian treated Noah before, how will Ian act if he know that he marked Noah during his rut? He might say "Its a mistake. I would never mark you, a beta". Because of what Ian said before that he glad that Noah was a beta.

So rn... We just can look forward to next chapter to know the truth..

Exactly. We don't know. Ppl are ASSUMING A LOT.

I do agree with you. That's why I said, in my very first post analysis, that Noah ran away from a broken heart. But then, we found out he may have been afraid that Ian will find out it's him. Ppl ARE SO focused on the baby they forget the MAIN reason why Noah had ran away. Not that necessarily that Ian will "take the baby" but that he would or could possibly have a fit finding out his ex-FWB had forced him (unintentionally) into a bond. Who knows. So the PRIMARY reason for him running away was multiple-fold. I mean, regardless, he had to go back to Korea anyways but when he had found out he was pregnant and decided to keep the kid....idk...

I had discussed w/ someone at length about his desire to have a kid to HIMSELF because he's now (not necessarily an orphan) alone because all of his remaining family members had passed away. We don't know when or how they had passes away. We only knew from their passing after the time he had already had a baby. The argument I had with this person was that even if this was true, that he is now "all alone" that he wants the baby to himself. So let's say that's the reason, fine, but that doesn't give him the RIGHT to be the SOLE parent. So, in essence, he had deprived Ian of THEIR child for the past 4+ years.

Looking at it from ANOTHER perspective.

ian does not have the right nor does he deserve to be in that child’s life. at this point he has raped noah twice without actually attempting to find out the truth. there is no hypothetical scenario, that is what happened. and it doesnt matter what family noah has. he ran away from his rapist and raised his child alone. and there’s no reason to believe noah even still has romantic feelings for ian. ian should be in jail. or hit by a car.

Go hate on Ian somewhere else.

for winter who blocked me: you are fuckinng disgusting tbh. noah did not force ian into ANYTHING. you are stupid! noah was RAPED. he showed up to ian’s house to bring his medicine back and maybe talk. that is a normal thing people do. but IAN physically overpowered and RAPED noah after noah tried go escape. ian also forcibly bonded noah. RAPISTS TO NOT GET RIGHTS TO THE CHILD OF THEIR VICTIM!!!!

ian should be hated on. he kidnapped a child and raped the parent. use your fucking brain.

I know I'm using my brain. More than you. Also, don't cuss me out. You're being rude right now.

i know i’m being rude, you’re being infuriating. you may be using your brain but not very well. literally every point you made is easily disproven and it’s very clear you’re heavily biased towards the rapist. you cannot change facts no matter what you claim. this “other perspective” you claim to view from really doesn’t matter that much. yeah ian didn’t know that he raped noah, he still did it. but what does ian do after that? he tracks noah down after 4 years, kidnaps his child. and uses his pheromones to force noah into heat and rape a second time, this time very intentionally. to be on his side is a very nasty take.

at this point i’m almost convinced you’re trolling.

I'm not on his side. I'm just giving an unbiased viewpoint. Just because I don't view his actions as rape doesn't mean I'm supporting him. Stop putting words in my mouth. If you think I'm infuriating HOW DO think I felt with all of you guys coming down on me?!? You're LITERALLY ATTACKING ME over some RANDOM fictitious character/s on a FICTION forum. Have YOU OR ANYONE who had DECIDED to COME AFTER ME as A PERSON ever considered ME as a PERSON?!?

That _Literally_ fictitious_character is APPARENTLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN A REAL LIVE PERSON'S FEELINGS??? What the fuck are YOU ON?!?

First of all, YOU WERE THE ONE that came into MY posts, NOT to have a discussion ON MY PLOT POINTS, but you (and all those other "moral police" - and some random OTHER stragglers who HAD decided to judge my MOST recent writing and didn't even SEE my PREVIOUS POSTS when I was calmly discussing the issues) attacked me for
DEFENDING Ian because I had the BRAINS to ANALYZE SHIT from a BIGGER PICTURE AND to be ABLE to see things from IAN's p.o.v. I called you guys out on not being to see beyond your noses PRECISELY because ALL you COULD see is Noah's p.o.v.

AND if you fucking want to talk to me. THEN HAVE the DECENCY to remain cordial. If you attack me personally again I WILL NOT stand by.

I realized shits like you (and don't come after me now saying that oh, see, now you're cussing at me (you DO Realize you were the one pushing ME DOWN FIRST, right?!?) -ATTACKING -"ME"-"PERSONALLY", NOT - my PLOT POINTS, - BUT - ME) ---I realized that shits like YOU WILL NEVER be able to see the BIGGER picture. The shits that ACTUALLY MOVE the PLOT along. It's HARD analyzing anything with you when you are so NARROW-MINDED and ENTRENCHED in your viewpoints that you can't even, for a breath of a moment, PAUSE to CONSIDER OTHER POSSIBILITIES. I've detailed my analyses in my lengthy essays. Open your mind up, take a deep breath, and go read it. Calmly. If you still disagree with my points. THAT'S FINE. Just calm-the-FUCK Down. You can attack my stances at any time, but you can NOT attack MY PERSON. That's something only an immature debater would do. Call me names. And then run away. Btw, I've BLOCKED you because you were criticizing me, and it's not good for my health. There is no discourse. And you're ONLY OUT to GET me. Fuck you.

Taking the "he's a bad guy" because he "raped" someone is the EASY WAY OUT. It leaves NO ROOM for DISCUSSION. And I've heard yours and everyone else's REFRAIN OVER and OVER and OVER again. You can make a banner on your forehead, maybe it'll become MORE APPARENT. I don't know. I don't need to keep on hearing it. I don't need to. Anybody CAN SEE the obvious. But to be ABLE TO GO SEE BEYOND THAT takes quite some skills. Quit harping on this point and read the analyses. All you're doing right now is this yapping at me. Using the SAME logic.

And to view rape between animals is ludicrous.

If you want to champion some cause. Go do it outside, not in a fiction forum where ppl go to relax and read. Not to hear a bunch of snowflakes and crybabies crying and railing over some fictitious character in a fictitious situation. Go, go, get a life or something. Gain some education. Leave the comment section alone.

LOL unbiased viewpoint my ass. he RAPED someone TWICE. he IS the bad guy LMFAO?? and rape between animals is a thing so wtf are you talking about?? stop claiming you’re using your brains to analyze anything bc you havent said anything factual or convincing of your “analysis”. you’ve been using weak assumptions and surface level information the entire time. i have looked at everything literally in front of you but i still disagree bc you’re just wrong and you need to get over it. ian is a rapist period. he not only raped noah once during his rut and forcibly marked him, but he tracked him down, kidnapped noah’s child which as a rapist he has no right over, and raped noah again. ian is the fuckin lg bad guy. noah did nothing wrong and was only trying to protect himself and his child. that is a fact.