I think having to notify your partner whenever your alone with someone else is controlling and toxic. Possessiveness too, and sure the partner can't just stop being jealous but the partner needs to learn that "you" can't always notify them when they are alone with someone or just forbid them from having private conversations with other people. They need to learn to control their emotions and come an understanding.
I agree with you but Even with having a partner now, Naoto is a grown man and not a child. He is allowed to be alone with someone be it a man or anyone else. I think no one is more aware of how things can go wrong than him. He is not a scared child anymore and the person who helped him become more open toward people is Hazuki. He worked so hard to be where he is now that seeing your lover not being able to fully trust you is painful especially when Hazuki’s outburst come from his own insecurities.
Well, of course we have to see the situation. If our meeting is business, there's no need to do that. But if our meeting is personal, well, then I don't mind sending him a short text in exchange of him not getting hurt. Like it's only take a few seconds fgs. Only on condition it's on my own will, without them asking me where I am everytime or asking me to report everywhere I go, now that's toxic. If they got angry over me meeting a business partner or even after I tell them about it, then that's also toxic. But well, everyone have their own view in life, and I won't force mine onto anyone.
Being jealous is a natural emotion but how you deal with it is what matters, he didn’t communicate properly his jealousy and how they should handle it (spending more time together after, text checkups, words of affirmations, etc) and that’s fine bc we know he’ll apologize later but having to notify your partner that you’re having a normal conversation with someone else when they’re not there is weird…… it’s extremely worrying and toxic your partner should have full autonomy over who they get to talk to. If you're (I mean Hazuki) that jealous to the point of hindering your partners other relationships you should reevaluate yourself and figure out how to effectively communicate your needs. Naoto did nothing wrong and for him to throw back in his face his natural incline to want to help others in the name of jealousy fuck him
Well like I said, jealousy isn't always about trust. Even if you fully trust someone, you can still get jealous. And if you want your partner to understand you and stop being jealous, you also have to understand that a process and a lot of talking will be needed. No one can change the moment they're told to. I also said that the way Hazuki expressed their jealousy is wrong, so I don't agree to him getting angry and insulting Naoto like that.
Well that's why I said the way he expressed his jealousy is wrong, I didn't justify any of that. I only talked about his jealousy, not how he express that emotion.
It’s a little over the top to let your partner know every single time you’d be alone with someone else I don’t really see how any of this would be Naoto’s fault Hazuki said something horrible and he needs to apologize that’s it like another person said this has been building up in Hazuki for a long time because he’s insecure and he blew up
Uh, I said I also don't agree on Hazuki's way of expressing his jealousy though. It's not Naoto's fault Hazuki said those awful things, it's all on him.
"A lot of people said Naoto is right, but for me they're both in the wrong."
A lot of people said Naoto is right, but for me they're both in the wrong. I think Hazuki's jealousy is still acceptable, although the way he expressed it is wrong. It's not like he got jealous at every interaction Naoto made with others, he only did when Naoto was alone with someone else without his knowledge. It's not like he's the controlling type that forbid Naoto to meet others. If I were Naoto, knowing that it happened before, I'd be understanding and try to be careful about it, and when I had no choice but to be in that kind of situation, I'll let my partner know. Like if I were in Naoto's situation, I'd wake up Hazuki so I won't be alone with Otoha. It's not me succumbing to him, but me understanding and accepting him, also caring for his feelings. If my partner can accept my flaws, why can't I accept his? It's not even hard to do. Jealousy is humane, as long as it's still acceptable and doesn't become toxic. And jealousy actually isn't always about trust, but about possessivenes. Even if you trust your partner fully, you can still get jealous, knowing you actually don't have the need to. Feelings are something we often unable to control. And if we force our partner not to, it's not like they'll suddenly stop being jealous, they'll just hide it, and hidden emotions can become a poison. So, if we want them to understand us and stop being jealous, we should also understand that it'd need a process and a lot of talking, not just forcing it on them like that.