People lack common sense I fear. If y'all can't understand these stories go watch Barbie. ...

This omg
Usually I love reading comment sections to geek out and celebrate a work I enjoy reading but it seems like every fucking manhwa I read the comment section is just hating hating hating simple minded one track black and white takes

Like usually idgaf bc people can have their opinions and voice them but they’re js being annoying atp

Suha and Juhyeok are both our protagonists we’re supposed to take both their sides while also acknowledging they’re both doing something wrong

And if you don’t like it why make others miserable
Like I get continuing reading because you’re js curious but deciding to flood the comments w ur rude negative takes?

Like they aren’t js criticizing the work they’re insulting people who enjoy the work or are defending the other character and insulting the other character people love

It’s js pure negativity and I’m over it
If you don’t like it and ur js gonna complain and not criticize then stfu it’s annoying no one wants to hear

It's refreshing to see such an on point comment. This message should be pinned in every comment section. And yes as you said every person is free to have an opinion but lately it has only been (let me choose a character that made a mistake) and spam how bad he is and how the other one "deserves better" istg if I hear those two words I'm gonna go insane. I understand most of them probably haven't had a relationship but there are always flaws. There are so many good stories where people go crazy in the comments because of stupid mistakes and misunderstandings. Like bro it's supposed to be a bit realistic. You know what else is realistic? -I obviously am not talking about anything that has rape or assault I hope that clear.

I'm saying this as someone who (if you check my comments on other works) will always go to bat for nuanced stories.
But This story .. hasn't given us ANY nuance!!
It's Only "but I love him"
If the author didn't want to have us feel this way, why would they set up the world and the story to have Su ah refuse to listen and spend decades stalking him.
They DIDN'T HAVE to do that !!!

I don’t think the absence of loud exposition equals absence of nuance. This story doesn’t spoon-feed internal monologues or moral commentary—it shows patterns. And those patterns are the nuance.

Su Ah refusing to listen and spending years hovering around Juhyeok isn’t framed as romantic heroism. It’s uncomfortable, it's obsessive, and it's stunted. That’s the point. The author didn’t “have” to write it that way—but they did, because it reinforces who Su Ah is—emotionally dependent, socially underdeveloped, and stuck in a very childish understanding of love. His “but I love him” isn’t presented as wisdom, it's presented as limitation. He’s socially stunted, isolated, developmentally delayed in how he processes relationships, that's not the author glorifying it, that’s the author showing you the limits of Su Ah's emotional vocabulary.That’s not nuance through speeches, but nuance through characterization. It’s subtle, but it’s there

And about the “they didn’t have to make him stalk for decades”, I think that's the point though? The author chose to, which suggests it’s intentional. The prolonged fixation isn’t there to make him look good, it’s there to show how warped his understanding of love and responsibility is. He manifested as an alpha unexpectedly, then latched onto the one person who defined his world. That doesn’t make it healthy, but it does make it psychologically consistent.

At the same time, Juhyeok’s stubborn pride and refusal to accept his own biology also drive the tension. The story isn’t just “Su Ah loves too hard.” It’s two people whose flaws keep colliding over and over because neither of them has matured properly.

Nuance doesn’t always mean the narrative verbally condemns or justifies something in obvious ways. Sometimes it’s in how flawed both characters are—Su Ah refusing to let go because attachment is his only emotional language, and Juhyeok refusing to step back because pride and insecurity are his. That tension is the nuance, even if it’s uncomfortable and not packaged in a “here’s the moral lesson” format.

Ok I'll admit you make a strong case when you break it down like that. I really really hope that is the case and what the author is intending here. Unfortunately I have low expectations based on how often the mark is missed.
I think unfortunately -and I'm normally not this person either - I really don't want them together at the end. Or at least give a several year distance gap before they do. He deserves to live a life without su ah in the shadows even for a little while tbh. Yk what I mean?

GOD I WISH I COULD PIN THIS COMENT! HOLY!

Omg I love this yes yes yes
Also pulling out the m dash had me crack up this is the type of comments we should be getting instead of the brain dead caveman nothing takes that have become commonplace

Also doesn’t the author’s previous work have complexities and nuance within it? I never read it but a few of my friends have and people online praise it a lot for being well written. Like I get there are manhwas that are so straight forward and js there to mindlessly read but idt that’s this author’s intention nor has it been that way for their previous works.

Maybe one note horribly written stories have become the norm and that’s why people are expecting it to be that way?
Like with “second screen criteria” for Netflix movies and that kind of thing? Maybe people in general are js expecting everything to be spoon fed? And a part of me thinks that this being a manhwa also contributes to that because people don’t respect it as a mode of story telling like they would a novel or film. People often look down on comics thinking they are less complex or for children so maybe that contributes to this issue? Idk
All Ik is that I’m so over the needless brain dead takes people have in these comment sections. The comic is literally in black white and GREY lol

And with the new age of “it’s not that deep-ism” people don’t view many actions as intentional anymore and this carries into the media we consume as well. “Maybe the author just liked blue and that’s why the curtains are that colour.” Also in visual forms of media where the artist has to specifically make the choice to draw something a certain way or just include it in the first place isn’t seen as intentional anymore? But no that’s a deliberate choice on the artists part. Or on set designs for shows and film, you have whole teams dedicated to finding and acquiring props to then decorate the space and how people dismiss it as world building or clues into who the characters are. All of this is intentionally done in good works of fiction. These aren’t real people where actions don’t make sense sometimes, no, these are characters in a story and the author is choosing to condense their lives for us to see certain moments to tell a specific narrative. It’s all intentional and we’re supposed to look deeper than what we’re being shown.
Enough w the this character is completely the victim and the other did everything wrong and was never hurt ever if you disagree w me you’re wrong! I’m so over it.

LMAO I've been learning to use different punctuations coz people been forgetting that these have purposes (also for dramatic text effect)

I do feel like a lot of media consumption right now is trained toward instant clarity. If a story doesn’t explicitly narrate the moral or spell out every internal conflict, people assume it’s not there, and with visual media especially, there’s this weird habit of acting like choices “just happened” instead of recognizing that everything on the page is deliberate. In comics, nothing is accidental—panel composition, proximity, body language, repetition of certain behaviors—those are the storytelling tools. And the nuances shouldn't always have to be in a speech bubbles, sometimes it’s in patterns.

And heavy agree about how manhwa/comics get treated differently. There’s this underlying bias that if it’s not a novel or prestige TV, it must be shallow, which is wild because visual storytelling requires just as much intentionality (sometimes more) since the creator has to condense characterization into limited space. The “it’s not that deep” mindset kind of flattens that craft.

I also think that part of the issue is that a lot of comics nowadays are adaptations from novels. Readers already know the full arc—the motivations, events, the redemption beats, and the payoff—so when something is an original ongoing work, people judge it as if it should already be at its final form. They forget it’s still UNFOLDING. Character growth doesn’t appear fully formed after just 5 chapters, it develops across time, but because audiences are too used to having all the details upfront from adapted works, their patience are being lowered. If the narrative tension hasn’t resolved yet, they treat it like a flaw instead of progression.

It’s all about instant gratification

Genuinely I’ve become so exhausted with the media I’m consuming especially since the world is js burning down around us. I live in the US, and I am a member of many minority groups so it doubly sucks since I see the politics in everything I engage with now that I’ve matured. I am woke now, and while that’s a good thing, ignorance truly was bliss. And I can’t help but feel the mindless content being pumped out is part of an agenda.

Lemmi grab my tin foil hat rq bc I truly believe AI and mindless content is being pushed so much because people in power want us to not think for ourselves. They want us to be easier to control. Especially with the e files being released we now have it confirmed that Hollywood has been a tool to subliminally push narratives to the sheep. Consumerism, racism, and misogyny are being repacked for the audience to make us more accepting to our own enslavement and commodification. And it frustrates me because it’s become so normalized, and I feel like no one around me recognizes it. Beauty standards for women are rooted in ped philia, you can’t change my mind on that, and those ideals are upheld by celebrities. Capitalism and consumerism are encouraged and pushed so much, and I’m sick of it. Ik this is taking such a turn from Suha and Juhyeok but, to me, it speaks to a larger issue within our society. People are just blindly consuming whether it’s products or mindless media. We work to be exploited and to make a small percentage of people more money then we die. Why is that?? And again this is coming from an American, the home of repackaging horrible realities as something that’s desirable, but dude I want a world that’s more authentic. The media being created is a reflection of the world around us. And seeing people engage with this story in such a brain dead manner is just so disheartening because truly where can I find escape if I can’t even get lost in a story about alphas and omegas. How people choose to view this story just shows me that it’s working and people are expecting less and less from the media we consume so how does that translate to what we expect from those in power? Do we also expect to js get scraps and slop from those who take our money? Why does we as a society continue to support brands such as SHEIN when we know real humans are being exploited and that the quality of the items we purchase are subpar and will only deteriorate after a few uses?

Why don’t more people shop second hand? Why do we continue using plastic items once and then tossing it in the trash knowing that piece of plastic will outlive us and our grandchildren’s grandchildren and beyond? Why are people just so obsessed with instant gratification to the point where it’s destroying everything? Our planet, our jobs, our media, our communities, etc? Why do we continue to support AI??

To me it is that deep T_T sorry for the rant but again no one around me irl is willing to engage in a conversation with me about what’s going on. No one wants to acknowledge we are just digging ourselves deeper and deeper into degeneracy just to make a few people even more incomprehensibly richer. I feel like I’m going insane bc everyone is js acting normal like can we please wake up? Stop it with the fast fashion stop it with the AI stop supporting large corporations because they assume no morals when faced with making a few more bucks. Trump wants to get rid of the ban on lead in gas and companies will start using lead because it’s cheaper and will pad their bottom line. People will still continue paying their taxes even knowing our money is going to create weapons that are vaporizing humans in Gaza. But forget that let’s js view our media as black and white. Let’s not use our brains to think because the more we buy into instant gratification the smoother our brains will get. And the smoother our brains get the easier it is to ignore how our actions affect the world around us. Because if we do that we won’t wake up to all the injustice and realize we can actually do something about it if we all worked together. Because actually doing something requires action and critical thinking that isn’t just black and white, but we can’t have that can we?

Again sorry for the rant. I hope you have a lovely day. Thanks for responding to my long ass essay