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I remember prior 2023 when the usual bl you’d read would just be toxic and full of rape ...

Dollia March 4, 2026 2:21 pm

I remember prior 2023 when the usual bl you’d read would just be toxic and full of rape and no one bated an eye and that was “normal” and now when you read something and it has rape in it everyone always complains, KEEP IN MIND. in no way am i defending it at all. All im saying is everyone’s mindset just suddenly switched one day. Is this because new gen’s started started reading? Or is it because we all grew up and knew that this was so much worse

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    MAZE March 4, 2026 2:35 pm

    IMO its the same with the pdf - Im not defending this as well but in Historical / Medieval Settings when Political Marriage exist its a norm to have an age gap between parties in their time. Its not they like it but that exist before we even born. Its not glorifying rather than its a fact and indeed happens until now. Now we condemned its true because its horrifying but just because we dont like it doesnt mean we are ignoring history.

    Yumiswife March 4, 2026 2:59 pm

    Isnt that a good thing that people are calling it out?? Whats the problem here?

    Dollia March 4, 2026 3:02 pm
    IMO its the same with the pdf - Im not defending this as well but in Historical / Medieval Settings when Political Marriage exist its a norm to have an age gap between parties in their time. Its not they like i... MAZE

    Yeah and that’s kind of a similar situation with ennead which has incest in it and is heavily flamed over it but in that kind of setting the manhwa is based on its the “standard” no hate love ennead. And I guess a lot of us who were reading in that time stuck with the whole “seperate fiction from reality” mindset.

    MAZE March 4, 2026 3:32 pm
    Yeah and that’s kind of a similar situation with ennead which has incest in it and is heavily flamed over it but in that kind of setting the manhwa is based on its the “standard” no hate love ennead. And ... Dollia

    For me - Just ignore the story if that really sets heavy on readers pov. Actually, I do that rather than feeling of rage get into me. Im kinda picky when it comes to what I read but sometimes I cant ignore that some stories has this type of scenarios what I usually do its just ignore it. I can see some stories get heavily flamed by this but lets think also in authors pov if they want something realistic in their work they need to add some facts/history rather than doing it perfectly its unrealistic to read. Especially we all know what history looks like.

    PmChivas March 4, 2026 4:05 pm

    Old school reader here: We didn't like it, but since BL/Yaoi stories were a niche subject/genre, we had no choice to but to accept it, but still grumble. And our grumbling did some good for awhile as we connected to international fans who had more contact with the mangakas and could bring them our dislike of the rape culture prevalent in their works. And it helped too. We stopped getting those rape = love stories. Yay!! But then came the ABO stories (I'm a fan) but I will acknowledge it set us back a ton!! >_< Then the new Gen readers came!! And I think they have a much larger dislike for toxic behavior in stories, so many authors started listening again to the voices of the readers and started to tone down such toxic relationships. Not that it all has disappeared and there appears a sliding scale of opinion on what behaviors constitute toxicity and needing to be called out.

    One thing I do not like is when I'm reading a historical manhua and the ML has concubines or a harem and the comments turn against the story for having such a setting. Concubines and harems were a thing, please don't decry it when you see in historical settings. Heck, even in today's world there are 2nd wives, sister-wives, and throuples!!

    404 March 4, 2026 5:37 pm

    people stopped practicing "don't like, don't read" or "dead dove do not eat" and intentionally consuming content that's upsetting them to be upset - everyone thinks the world revolves around them now and that anything they stumble upon is for them even if there are multiple tags, warnings, comments etc. pointing out stuff that may upset them

    Dollia March 4, 2026 7:55 pm
    Old school reader here: We didn't like it, but since BL/Yaoi stories were a niche subject/genre, we had no choice to but to accept it, but still grumble. And our grumbling did some good for awhile as we connect... PmChivas

    Omg yes this was type of reply I wanted to see I knew I wasn’t crazy for waking up one day to bl just having a whole different plot then what we were used to.

    Dollia March 4, 2026 7:57 pm
    Isnt that a good thing that people are calling it out?? Whats the problem here? Yumiswife

    ??? Did you not read anything of what I said? Are you slow?

    Yumiswife March 5, 2026 7:31 am
    ??? Did you not read anything of what I said? Are you slow? Dollia

    oooOOOooh watch out everyone mangago user dollia has ATTITUDE!!!

    Dollia March 5, 2026 7:39 am
    oooOOOooh watch out everyone mangago user dollia has ATTITUDE!!! Yumiswife

    Beware looks like yumi needs its glasses fixed because it decided that half of what I said was nonexistent..!