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Everyone dissing the ML LOL

FudanshiCoco March 13, 2026 6:30 am

I don't get it. Both of them are wrong. Seriously, they were both fucked up. Yes, ML is now obsessed and toxic but so the MC. Both need to have redemption arc. Maybe, y'all haven't experienced bullying and how much it hurts being cut off without having time to explain yourself to the person you thought you were close to, only to be bullied by his so called friends while watching and averting your gaze. Let's not forget that. MC fed the ML's delusion and he gave in with his guilt. Yes, it's wrong to manipulate others heck it's very bad, but the MC stayed not just because of guilt but because of his love. He caged himself knowing that the ML was already caged himself, instead of helping the ML, he tolerated it, let him have his delusions that everything was okay. So, in the end both of them were wrong. They need to grow apart and maybe by the time they knew how to pick up themselves could have a heart to heart talk. Because we all know that both of them loved each other, but didn't know how to express them because they are scarred and scared.

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    Sydus March 13, 2026 7:51 am

    Is nice reading a person with a brain, hope your God bless you

    Leslie32666 March 13, 2026 9:49 am

    You're so right

    lla696308 March 13, 2026 10:11 am

    And his ass got pushed down the stairs and busted open his head. But like they ain’t saying nothing.

    Mai March 13, 2026 11:32 am

    You're comparing someone who stood by bullying, to a rapist/stalker. Are we being serious right now? Yes, Taeyoon should absolutely have tried to stop his friends in high school, but to even make the comparison between the two characters' actions is wild. Why should Taeyoon, a literal rape victim, in any way be blamed for not trying to "help" his rapist recover from his delusions? Taeyoon's main reason for getting involved with Jaemin in the first place was to try and apologize for what happened in high school; literally his attempt at a redemption for the past. The whole story up until their separation is Taeyoon trying and failing to redeem himself while Jaemin treats him like garbage in return.

    Lynn March 13, 2026 11:35 am

    Well one is a stalker and rapist (every single rapist deserves death) and the other one is a coward bystander, yeh definitely the same

    Neenee3 March 13, 2026 11:44 am
    You're so right Leslie32666

    I read that as "you're so tight"

    Leslie32666 March 13, 2026 1:47 pm
    I read that as "you're so tight" Neenee3

    GIRL NO LMAO

    Leslie32666 March 13, 2026 1:49 pm
    You're comparing someone who stood by bullying, to a rapist/stalker. Are we being serious right now? Yes, Taeyoon should absolutely have tried to stop his friends in high school, but to even make the comparison... Mai

    Your point is right, honestly I don't condone what the ML did. But at the same timei think the Mc at the time did some wrongs on his side too (cause he was young and didn't wanted to be left from the group, and honestly makes sense), I don't talk that he's wrong NOW, he's the victim of the two to me.
    From the other side OBV to me the ML is the worst of the two, like he literally forced himself on him, and it's not justified.

    Leslie32666 March 13, 2026 1:50 pm
    Your point is right, honestly I don't condone what the ML did. But at the same timei think the Mc at the time did some wrongs on his side too (cause he was young and didn't wanted to be left from the group, and... Leslie32666

    I know you both responded to the first comment but I wanna make clear my position

    FudanshiCoco March 13, 2026 7:05 pm

    Yes, it's not comparable yes it's condemning I didn't see the part of rape in their case, I mean I forgot. But that doesn't mean that Taeyoon is doing the right thing either. And also, I don't remember but I don't think Taeyeon think it's rape. Yes, it's forced, and yes it's rape in our eyes, but for someone who is a victim of rape myself, I'd walk away from him after that time, so, I'm not blaming Taeyoon, but who in their right mind stay with their rapist. And for one about the stalker, all of us stalks our crush's timelines and whatnots is normal. And he doesn't act on it. It's borderline harassment in early chapters because he kept showing up, but it's just misunderstanding. Real stalking is not letting the others know who you are while making you aware that they are following you. It might be insensitive but there is always a thin line about everything, and everything should not be viewed negatively, like harassment and pursuing a person. If you don't want him it's harassment but how could you know him if he doesn't make his presence known. So yeah, I don't hate the ML, in fact I like how it felt real and raw because some relationships are just like that. Not everything is rainbows and sunshine but it doesn't mean it's bad. It's just miscommunication and misunderstandings that was never brought up.

    FudanshiCoco March 13, 2026 7:20 pm

    That's right I forgot that he didn't give his consent so it's rape. But since I've been reading yaoi I forgot the word consent so I normalize it. But I still don't hate neither Taeyoon and Jaemin. I'm just saying ML doesn't deserve all the hate. Both of them did each other wrong, it's not comparable yes, but if you really viewed yourself as such, you could always walk away like Taeyoon did in the end.

    Mai March 13, 2026 11:47 pm
    Yes, it's not comparable yes it's condemning I didn't see the part of rape in their case, I mean I forgot. But that doesn't mean that Taeyoon is doing the right thing either. And also, I don't remember but I do... FudanshiCoco

    I don't know how many times throughout the series Taeyoon has to reiterate that the reason he stays with Jaemin is because he feels so guilty over what happened in high school that he believes by staying, he's repenting for his past actions. That's why he's subjecting himself to these atrocities. To literal abuse. He thinks it's his deserved punishment, until he finally realizes it's not how redemption works. "It doesn't mean it's bad"? It's actual rape. It IS bad, and it SHOULD be viewed negatively. Reread the final two chapters of the first season, when Jaemin tells Taeyoon "why would I like you?" and then rapes him, AGAIN, while Taeyoon pleads with him to stop. "Who in their right mind stays with their rapist?" Oh, I don't know, several abuse victims who feel trapped by someone they believe they can't escape from. An abuser who tracks them down at every turn. Someone who they're literally afraid of. This is why people hate Jaemin. His "miscommunications" are not Taeyoon's to resolve; they're not Taeyoon's to forgive, not when they lead to him treating Taeyoon like this. If you think it's fine because "that's just how Yaoi is lol" then good for you, enjoy this BL to your heart's extent, but Jaemin absolutely deserves all the hate he's getting.

    FudanshiCoco March 14, 2026 8:00 am

    I stand corrected, he did definitely deserved it but I still don't hate him. First, he is not the worst case possible character for me like any other black flags right there. And you're right, there are people who could not walk away from their abusers. I'm just saying that Taeyoon literally could but chose not because he was trying to redeem himself as we have read so far. But as I have said, he could and he did. So, it's not about who is wrong or right in their position. Both of them did something unforgivable the only difference is how they far they took it and how condemning and immoral it is. Yes, I really believe that rapist should go to hell, I'm not trying to understand them. Heck, I hate them to the core. But, I think that if they could communicate right from the start even the past everything would have been different. It's like that because they could not and who we are to criticize what they have done. All I'm saying is do not hate the character too much, because in the end they were nothing but fictional character. It's not worth the hate. And hating could actually spoil your mood. I'm just here for the read and I don't want others spreading hate and stop others from reading it. I'm not supporting Jaemin, I'm just not hating him for what he have done since I don't take it seriously that's my point.

    Mai March 14, 2026 8:20 am
    I stand corrected, he did definitely deserved it but I still don't hate him. First, he is not the worst case possible character for me like any other black flags right there. And you're right, there are people ... FudanshiCoco

    "The only difference is how far they took it," no, actually, there are so many other differences. How about the fact that Taeyoon actually apologizes and tries to make amends because he genuinely feels bad over what happened during their high school days, while Jaemin's so-called "remorse" over his treatment of Taeyoon stems only from him losing access to Taeyoon? Or the fact that Taeyoon was a bystander of bullying, not a direct offender, whereas Jaemin is the direct and sole perpetrator of rape and stalking? There are numerous differences, substantial differences, and regardless of whether you think both of their actions are "unforgivable" in their own way, their actions are still not comparable. They are both flawed characters, absolutely, but that is not the same thing.

    At this point, I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. You "hate him to the core" but "do not hate him too much," and you don't "hate him for what he has done" even though you "think he should go to hell." People are allowed to express their thoughts about the media they read, both negative and positive. No one is "stopping others from reading it" by talking about what's literally happening in the story, which is Jaemin throwing a pity party about his own cruel actions finally driving Taeyoon away from him.

    Sydus March 15, 2026 4:10 am

    Omfg thank you calling me tight (●'◡'●)ノ or Right, I take both hahahahahhabjaja