17 year old mc and 27 year old ml btw……….. yeah no i’m good 😭 must be illegal t...

you're thinking modern times wise. not so long ago people were marring when the girl was 15 and the guy was in his 20's. sometimes older depending on the money he had. welcome to how society changes

…you think i don’t know that??? there’s a reason why we don’t keep the old norms, “long ago” it was usual for literal 13 year old children to marry old men and bare their children, and women being treated as slaves… hello? if manga can go against the old stereotypes by not making women get burnt on sticks and whipped into submission, why can’t they make couples within reasonable ages? plus this is a FICTIONAL story with magic n shi so it doesn’t perfectly reflect society now does it. additionally this fiction was made in MODERN times, in which the author has full awareness on how wrong this type of age gap is and still chose this despite it not being relevant for the story at all. maybe we should hold people accountable for ONCE. god FORBID i wanna read something that isn’t morally questioning.

so yeah, hello and welcome to being a decent human being that doesn’t condone weird shit, freak

Hello, people didn't live past 40 back then ether!! and yes it is fictional so why are you upset at the age gap in the first place? and why can't people writing about past and go hey here's something to learn from even if this is a fiction writing? shocking that you're getting upset over a FICTION writing about something that happened in history where people didn't live past 40 and the fact is if you wanted to read something that didn't have an age gap like that, there are MILLIONS of other authors out there that don't bring up things you can learn about in their writings! i'm a person that goes "yea, history happened, life happened, people lived different back then." i learn from history and move on, i don't hold what our ancestors did against them to todays standards, the only freaks out there are the ones trying to do that because they think eveyone in every era should be held to the same standards when they can't be.

ohhh my god i’m upset even if it’s fictional because it still reflects the morals of the author… that’s why people cancel authors that romanticise problematic behaviour and so WHAT if they didn’t live past 40 back in the days, is there not plenty of old people and grandparents in isekai mangas??? so they can ignore THAT fact but keep the pedophilia? alright. and if you ever read my ORIGINAL COMMENT you can see that i literally wrote “i’m good” because i stopped reading after the very first chapter, but still left a comment because this is STILL bad?? so yeah i DID stop reading (like i do any work i don’t like) but i can still share my opinion as to why i stopped… and again, just because they did it back then, just because it was history, DOESNT mean that it was a GOOD thing???? do you for example brush off SLAVERY of african americans just because it was a thing in the past? there’s a reason why authors don’t romanticise that like they do age gaps because they’ll get cancelled in a heartbeat lmaooo but ofc pedophilia is jolly okay because you freaks like to condone such things

again this author made this work and decided to not put in any of the other problematic topics that the era had aside from the age gap, so here u are trying to defend it by saying “that’s just how it used to be” ok so where is the slavery, the rape, the oppression of women, the witch hunt, the racism, the children having to bear their own child?? and FYI just because people died young back then does not mean forcing children to marry them was justified. adult women still existed back then. and sorry don’t try and act like this work is highly educational just because it has child marriages it isn’t in the manga just to be romanticised… and youre literally contradicting yourself by mentioning the fact that people died at 40 as a way to justify this pedophilia AS IF THE PEOPLE IN THE MANGA ALSO HAS A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF 40 years old… THEY DONT. but guess what ELSE they have in the manga that is “accurate to the times” child marriages!!! so how “accurate” is it now?? if the cause and justification of child marriages was bc of life expectancy of 40 years old, why not have it in the manga! ^_^ that’s where the fiction comes in where you have the CHOICE to remove problematic topics of the past but nooo just keep it in to romanticise it instead bc i loooove when a 17 year old has a super romantic hot relationship with a 27 year old

anyways i’m not gonna argue with a person that condones pedophilia just because it’s a “fantasy” and an “accurate representation of how it used to be” and then bring up facts to justify it only to then not realise that those facts ain’t even in the manga… so yeah enjoy your pedophilia i guess. and keep yourself far FAR away from ANY kindergarten and schools. GOODNIGHT

condoning something and telling you how things used to be are two VERY different things. also you really need to look more into history because slavery wasn't JUST the African Americans in the U.S. you're forget that all of the world and EVERY COUNTRY had slavery LONG before the U.S. was even discovered by the Vikings! And compared to other countries, the year after the civil war ended, there were reparations, they got land and money. does it fully make up for what happened? hell no. But it's better than other countries that said "ok we're done with you slaves, you're on your own, bye". Removing problematic topics doesn't solve the issues and only cover things up. making it far easier for people to repeat the past mistakes. If you really did know your history like i just stated, you wouldn't hone in on African American's being the only slaves you seem to want to keep toting in your comments.
yes, you can comment about you not liking it, but again. The author was just using something from the past for use now. doesn't mean people that read this type of thing is a pedo. Also doesn't mean the author is one either. there you go jumping to conclusions about people you have never met, never spoken to before. But instead, you want to get up on your soap box that really doesn't have anything backing it up except your feelings that are lead by society, which lately once more has not done their homework in history lessons.
If you really think that's what i condone, you REALLY need to get off the website and stop reading manga and go get some fresh air more often.

the part about people not living past their 40s are a myth (￣∇￣")

during the time frame i'm talking about. it's not really a myth. You have to remember their was massive out break of the plague, the whole of Europe and the middle East was at war and it was in the middle of the mini-ice age. Food was in shortage. People really did not live very long. people had more kids in order to hope that at least one survived to adult hood. More than half the population in Europe died from the plague alone. 40% in the middle East. You add in the war and the lack of food because of the mini-ice age that did not end until the 1890's you're looking at nearly 70% of the population gone during the 1300 to 1400's. it's why the survival age is so low during that time. you married early to get as many kids out as you could.

oh my god dude you are holding onto that fact as hard as you can when it obviously doesn’t concern this manga. you told me to get off this website but MY comment was LITERALLY just me saying i’m not interested anymore bc of the age gap and the pedophilia, and only then did you come out of nowhere to defend it with your life. it doesn’t MATTER if it’s “historically accurate” (funny how you say that considering nothing else in the story is historically accurate), this author CHOSE to ignore every other historical event/trait of that time ASIDE from the pedophilia. convenient right? even then; if the life expectancy was so low and people needed children, then teenagers could’ve reproduced with other teenagers. it was obviously predatory intentions behind ONLY old males getting to “mate” with females in their teens. the life expectancy being low doesn’t mean that there was an uneven amount of adult females compared to the adult males. why do you want to defend pedophilia so bad? it was pedophilia 700 years ago and it still is now. whether or not it was normalised does NOT mean it WASNT pedophilia. plus has the author mentioned the plague? any other justification for the age gap? no. there are old people in the manga, there is no plague, there is no other reason. it is simply like that. there is literally flying fucking birds. you can keep mentioning as many historical facts as you want to, but that doesn’t mean it is even remotely related to the story bc it isn’t even mentioned there.

i’m not AGAINST using problematic themes to give awareness and educate those who don’t know… but GENUINELY. LOOK ME IN THE EYES. and tell me THIS MANGA is educational and using problematic themes appropriately… NO and bro ofc ik there were slaves way before america, im literally european (half our history is slavery), i was LITERALLY giving examples and that is the only thing u point out. im just SAYING that there is NO OTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PEDOPHILIA ASIDE FROM THE AUTHOR JUST WANTING IT IN THERE. there IS NO “historical accuracy” in here that you want to believe in so, so bad. i never called anyone a pedo for reading this, i only called YOU one for being so passionate about defending pedophilia bc it was getting ridiculous how you didn’t think the ml was a pedo for being with a 17 year old girl. i don’t think anyone is pedo for reading this shitty story, but do i think you guys condone the age gap if you do? yes. yes i do

i meant big birds that mfs can ride on birds fly ofc LMAO

then stop reading manga. every manga has something to learn about if you really do read them and not just skim through them. and as i said before, " The author was just using something from the past for use now. doesn't mean people that read this type of thing is a pedo. " also, again "If you really think that's what i condone, you REALLY need to get off the website and stop reading manga and go get some fresh air more often. " because yes, historical facts do matter because that's how people learn and don't repeat things! like the age caps in this manga.

you are genuinely just talking to talk huh. you are LITERALLY contradicting yourself with your last sentence and this entire reply. this entire time you have been defending this manga by saying it is “historically accurate” but now you are saying the age gap is bad?? and by showing it in the manga people can learn to not do it? but that doesn’t even make sense bc that’s only when people actually see it represented in a bad light. in this manga the age gap is brushed past and even seen as positive more than anything. does that not encourage people more so than it warns people to not do the same…?????

and i never said historical facts don’t matter, i said it isn’t RELEVANT in THIS manga because there is no ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of it in here. i literally said this very clearly in my replies, did YOU skim through it? hypocrisy much?

genuinely you are only saying shit bc you can’t admit you were wrong. i’ve given you paragraphs upon paragraphs how NONE of the “historical” accuracy you WANT this manga to have, still DOESN’T have it. “oh this story has pedophilia because it was normal back then because of the low life expectancy” do they have low life expectancy in this story? no. there are both old and VERY healthy people in this story without any plague or any historical event that leads the humans to have the so called low life expectancy you preach about to justify the age gap. okay, NOW WHAT? the cause isn’t there but the result still is? wait… maybe THE AUTHOR DIDNT GIVE A SHIT ABT HISTORICAL ACCURACY AND JUST WANTED A BIG AGE GAP IN THE STORY SO THEY CAN ROMANTACISE IT!!! NO WAY!!!!

“we should have these problematic themes so people can learn to not do it!!!” is the age gap portrayed in a negative light..? is the author’s intention to make it seem negative? IS THE AGE GAP EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED ON HOW BIG IT IS ASIDE FROM THE MC BEING ALL, “o-oh wow he is so mature!!! because he is 10 years older than me and has a developed frontal lobe!! this guy is so perfect and charming!” no. no it doesn’t. it is romanticised, seen positively, and brings NO AWARENESS OR EDUCATION TO PEOPLE ABT HOW BAD PEDOPHILIA IS.

educate yourself outside of just historical facts.

Frfr my MIL was 13 when she got married and started having kids, it’s super recent (in the scheme of hundreds of thousands of years) that there has been a change in what they consider the age of maturity.
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that's what happens when you want a "powerful man who hasn't married yet, eventho he should have an heir by now" amd a "woman of marriageable age bc she can't be a spinster" even tho i think her marrying later bc nobody wants to marry a "useless" girl would be more realistic