Wait, I don't get it?

Just so u know the Author fav character itself is Grayson and she wrote KMIYC and all other miller stories centered around Grayson eventhough she released desire me if you can the last, she had already prepared the story for Grayson that's the reason Grayson is in every single story of all other siblings. No she didn't give a sad backstory she just made people understand Grayson. So Nope she didn't change anything

I think what people are defending is the fact that Greyson is messed up like his mind is very illogical so he ends up thinking a bad or immoral action is the right answer, the problem is that the parents didn't know how to deal with him and only created a harsh environment for him and the other kids, but Greyson and his twin sister manifested their dominant traits from the moment they were born, while the other kids didn't, and it's explained extreme alphas are very weird and cold, Ashley is the living example of a destroyed alpha by pheromones, that's why they need to have sexual intercourse very often to release them or else they get crazy. I think what makes people care about Grayson and others forgive him (I'm not the case though) is the fact he's not evil on purpose (? Like, he does bad stuff but he's genuinely trying to help, for example when he did the dog thing to Chase and the comments he made, he's simply nuts but not bad, lmao.
But yeah, I don't like people forgetting the nasty stuff he did and he does, like bruh, I get it, he's cute and all of that at times but the man is manipulative and knows how to get his way with people's emotions hahaha, like every time he acts in self defense and almost kill people.

He isn't different in this, he legitimately still doesn't understand or care about other peoples feelings. It's why he's 'loved' and ghosted so many people, he doesn't care about stepping on their hearts. That's why it's so nice to see Dane put him through the emotional ringer

Please nite that each stories has their own POV of the main characters, in KMIYC, it is chase's POV.

did you read all the other povs or at least the novel to say all this? or just from the kmiyc manhwa pov? bc he technically was a poor abused soul with a mental condition since birth. Novel readers do not make up things.

It's just a different POV from each characters. Just like how a person we know in real life have different version from us versus their family, other friends, coworker, or lovers. In this series, we just get to know Grayson more. Chase seems to be the only sibling who despise him which is very valid, the other were kind of okay with him. Grayson's twin thinks he's an idiot, while the youngest think he's helpful.

This is why I'm so confused because at the end of the day he traumatized the living hell out of his siblings. They're broken. People in the comment section is saying that he's just misunderstood he has problems too but come on.

grayson couldn't be called manipulative and he definitely doesn't know how to get his way with ppl's emotions like u said, bc he himself doesn't understand emotions and is only basically copying what he sees and watches from others. Aren't these shown in the 3rd chapter I think?

Idk what siblings he traumatized except chase, literally Bliss the youngest loves Grayson and Grayson treats Bliss so well if you read deflower me if you can. Just chase has problems and Grayson was genuinely thinking he was helping Chase but it actually hurt Chase which Grayson doesn't realise so try to read Desire me if you can from a different perspective with fresh mindset instead of sticking with Chase pov cause u won't enjoy the series if u just keep sticking with Chase pov

Are you sure we read the same novel? He knows what he's doing many times, but yeah, he doesn't understand emotions like normal people do, but he knows how to create positive emotions in people like when he loved bombed all the people he thought were his destiny and left them behind when he realized they weren't, or when he acts in self defense almost killing someone because he knows that he's not doing wrong, only acting in "self-defense" the boy is manipulative because he acts in accordance to what he believes will make people act the way he wants, but yeah, he hardly understands his own emotions let alone other people's.

Lmao u will never understand he only behaves and acts like how Ashley thought him for self defence, so if someone's killing Grayson he should just take it wow? Like I don't understand ur just blatantly hating on Grayson, if u really hate Grayson then don't read Desire me if you can, let us Grayson and DMIYC fans enjoy it. You can't change out perspective cause we actually understood Grayson and loved him. And manipulation like bruh he def acts like he is in love hoping that they are his fated partner yes what he done is wrong for those people leaving them after they are not his fate but that doesn't mean he is a very bad character he doesn't realise that he is hurting the other person cause he himself hasn't experienced Love or feelings. I genuinely don't know how to make you understand Grayson pov but nonetheless Grayson is a very good and well written complex character.

He's just unintentionally manipulative, it's not like he means it in fact he doesn't even have any idea what he's doing most of the time. He's not a straight fucked up evil guy, he's not like his grandfather, his problem is the way he perceive right and wrong. His intentions are good but the way he act upon them is messed up.

When did I say I hate him? I love the story and I've read it several times, but one thing is to love the story and a very different point is to ignore what Grayson character actually is, yeah, he's not a bad person but he's not your number one icon, the best brother or best ex boyfriend, he acted very shitty and still do at times but he changed because he's slowly understanding about how others experience their emotions, besides, what Ashley taught him is crucial to who he is and yeah I get it, it's not only because Grayson was messed up from his birth, his parents had much to do in the way he acts, but you can't pin the blame all on the parents, Grayson actually tried to kill Koi, even if it wasn't intentional, and you're telling me it's all Ashley's fault? B fr

Yeah, he's not evil and that's the only reason I like him, like, he's a person who needed a very specific care and instruction, but he very much become a menace to others and unfortunately his dad thought he was just like his grandpa (Dominic) and thus he didn't act like the best dad.

yes but calling it manipulative when he doesn't understand and just practices what he watched isn't exactly the same as actually knowing how things works. It didn't require him thinking of the actual manipulative way to get through situations. It's like an AI getting info from people's thoughts. I hope u get what I'm trying to say.
I guess there's no other way to call it as it appears that way. I understand. It just felt like a wrong term.

Omg you get it!! The only thing he learnt is to do things that would make ppl like him, he doesn't think about the effects of his actions at all, he js thinks it's for their own good, that's why he lied to Chase.

yes coz he only focuses on the positive outcome, not caring about the process

Lmao, chase is also a nutcase and psyco and he was literally known as mad dog. It was so hard to find bodyguards for him cs he shoot them up. And he was totally normal, his Pheromones didn't affected his brain unlike Nathaniel, Grayson and Ashley. He intentionally shoot ppl, he intentionally pushes Henry out of the heli, fully aware that it might take their life. And don't even say that was cs of his childhood and trauma. If chase actions can be justified cs of that, Grayson case is way more justified then. Also chase personality didn't change even after his trauma was over. He never even felt guilty abt his actions unlike Grayson. He just softened for Josh, he still severely injured dozens of ppl in the side stories. Still not feeling guilty. Josh also ignored and just warned chase a bit. Why?? Cs they were some random character whose life doesn't matter??? At least Grayson realises wht he did was wrong even tho that wasn't intentional. Chase never. Oh but Chase is Angel

I mean, manipulation whether used for positive or negative purpose is still manipulation, above in some comment someone said he said all that horrible stuff to scare Chase off so he would release his pheromones, ultimately creating a very negative view on Chase, so he did try to manipulate him to do something he didn't want to. I mean, Grayson is still an adult so he understands at some degree what he does but like I said before, he has his own understanding of emotions.

I'll explain my view again bc it seems we're on different argument tables ㅜㅜ
The manipulation was manipulation, all you said was true I am not denying it, except a bit of the last one. His way was learned by copying manipulation from others. And likely without knowing it IS manipulation. So I said it felt wrong to call him a manipulator since he only absorbs and applies what he learned, all the while without understanding "feelings".
Also, in the end I said I understand you for calling him that.
But for me, he manipulates? Yes. Can we call him a manipulator? No, if considering all the variables. Maybe yes, if we simply don't wanna think deeply and just fuck with the term whatsoever.