i can assure you i read everything, and i stand firm in what i said. i’m open to discussing the differences in how we define dominance in kink vs in vanilla, exploring a women leasing vs a woman dominating, etc, as i believe thats where a lot of this debate stems from. but what i’m seeing is a lot of misconceptions from someone who admits to not knowing anything about kink yet speaking from a position of being informed? your preference is valid but acting like the op is silly for not liking this so called “manhwa bdsm” was not the move.
again, please reread everything I said thoroughly. you can clearly see op attacked me first and I continued nicely after that till it got to a point, take off your rose-tinted glasses. even op admitted I was being nice, and only got aggressive after repeated offense, again, again, and again, please read before you reply
"are female dominants no longer dominant the second she takes smth up her cooch? like…" didnt read what I said in the following: "he's still taking it up the ass, in no way would he be considered dominant, (there are a few cases where the bottom is dominant though!! so not saying this about all bls)"
"and most importantly hes not submissive" I didn't know there couldn't be two dominants in a single relationship? a femdom does not strictly mean dominant female and submissive male, but could also mean dominant female and dominant male, you're very narrow-minded.
op:"At least you are being nice while being ignorant.." clearly, the op was the aggravator and saying that "it's not the move for u to act like they're silly!" is you being bias and not focusing on what you're reading.
I'm fine with different opinions but acting self-righteous whilst also being crass is whats not it. read. before. you. reply!
i’m not sure why what i said is confusing to you? taking something up the ass doesn’t mean someone isn’t dominant, that is what i am saying. your quote “he’s still taking it up the ass, in no way would he be considered dominant” is what i am point blank disagreeing with. being a bottom is not the same as being a dominant. that will automatically make every single heterosexual interaction including piv a power thing where the man is dominant because he has a penis. that turns a penis into a dominant appendage. when that is not the case, and is quite a misogynistic position. again, i understand this is a conversation with a lot of nuance and i am absolutely welcoming your opinions, but reading is fundamental.
a female dominant is a female dominant regardless of who she is dating, including when she is not dating. however, when i say she is not a femdom, and that he is not a submissive, i am getting at my issue with the story - the dynamic is not present. she is not taking control, he is not deferring to her. this reads to me like a typical heterosexual webtoon, in regards to their interactions. he is not a submissive. she is a top, if we are working with the definitions of top being the penetrator. she is a touch me not, if we are operating off her disinterest in penetration. but she is not a dominant. nothing in this story is showing me female dominant and male dominant, like you are stating.
femdom is a bdsm term, being A Dominant is language from kink community, and i think your insistence on separating the two is causing a lot of headaches. you can disagree with my pov without resorting to judgement about my character. i don’t believe anything i said has been narrow minded.
its interesting that you take ops replies to you on Their comment as them admitting to/displaying being the aggravator? my reply was in response and agreement to op, and i was addressing the responses in the thread at large. i only responded to you after you decided i cannot read. seeing as you refuse to engage in discussion beyond repeat insistence that i read what you said - as though i will magically enter your mindset if i read it enough time - i don’t believe this discussion is fruitful. have a good day.

They have the most typical smut dynamic when the guy is proactive and smug one and the girl is always hesitant and shy. So is it a femdom really only cause she is the one who is doing penetration?