nah you’re right, this was very well articulated bc i thought the exact same thing… many people just can’t handle a genuinely complex character like hyeon
Even tho the miscommunication is so BS, I still think it's needed to happen.
Especially when we can see that through mistakes and conflicts, that's how Hyeon learns how to grow and do better because he never has to follow anyone's rules so he's used to either doing whatever he pleases or ppl have to follow his needs.
And even tho he's very much possessive abt Eunho, he never once thought he's in love w him, he hasn't figured that out so if Eunho confesses to him before the fight, Hyeon would still be shocked and kinda pushed Eunho away which creates more miscommunication
Yeah I think they're both fairly complex characters. Ngl they both piss me off at different points in the story so far
I think people are just so used to the sad poor bottom abused by powerful rich top that some people are accusing this of being that trope when it doesn't exactly quite fit in my opinion. I'm excited to see them both grow. I'm actually planning on reading the novel just because I'm kind of impatient lolll
YEAH SAME LMAO they are both so annoying at times and agreed, most people are so used to the stereotypes that they kind of project it into other works as well. i look forward to how hyeon and eunho will develop to pass the hurdle that is keeping them from forming a relationship
i do agree here with the fact that hyeon never realised his feelings, but eunho has never once actually showed hyeon that he cared. He doesn in his own way, but it only translates to his duties as hyeon’s manager. Hyeon, that has been abandoned and used his entire life will obviously feel a sense of separation anxiety towards the only person that sees him as a person, but what can he do when that said person is constantly keeping a wall up and always “threatens” to disappear suddenly with how detached he is to everything? all of this only slows hyeon’s development because he is so busy trying to keep eunho at his side to even think abt WHY and WHAT these feelings are… he constantly lashes out because he’s frustrated there’s nothing he can do to keep eunho by his side because he no longer has anything to offer him, while eunho also constantly pushes him away whenever he tries to be vulnerable
i think communication should go both ways, and though hyeon is a JACKASS for the constant lash outs and tantrums, eunho also has his fair share of asshole-ry
He does? That's why and how Hyeon even fall in love w him. Because he cares abt him regardless of his appearance, his status and even his manners. It has been shown way before he's a manager.
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The fair share of miscommunication he has is due to his own cowardice, not because he doesn't care, he's simply a coward.
Both of them are hella insecure, one would lash out while one would hold it in. Ofc they're doomed from the start, that's why mistakes are bounded to happen.
But that doesn't mean they can't work it out because they can and they already show that similar situation already occurred and solved in the past w their relationship
yea he shows he accepts hyeon no matter what, but he doesn’t really show him that he’ll stay by hyeon’s side and/or that he actively cared aside from doing the manager stuff — obviously i know he HAS shown hyeon that he cares for him before, but not the type of reassurance he knows hyeon needs, he purposely ignores it. and i never said his lack of actions means that he DOESNT care, i just said he doesn’t show it properly and therefore it gets misunderstood. yes, he is a coward, they both are.
and again 2x i never said they couldn’t work things out ive even left comments about how i look forward to seeing their relationship and characters develop. i was just pointing out how your reply kind of only commented on hyeon as if he was the only one at fault, when in reality eunho is equally guilty imo.
Because you said he didn't care. Like ofc he would draw the line because he's scared of crossing it.
And wdym the type of reassurance he knows Hyeon needs WHEN HYEON HAS A WHOLE CONVERSATION IN HIS HEAD SAYING HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HE'S BEING MAD FOR BECAUSE YES HE CAN APOLOGIZE BUT HE STILL DOESN'T WANT EUNHO TO BE W SOMEONE ELSE.
The point is even Hyeon doesn't even know what he truly wants, he just wants Eunho to stay by his side, be it if he's just a friend, a manger or anyone, as long as he only cares abt him. So how tf do you expect Eunho to know what he wants? You want him to solve the problem for him like he can get into his head?
Both are wrong but to say false things abt a character is not it
Agreed. Hyeon really need help. He doesn't know how to express or identify his emotions. I think he might be autistic or maybe it's just a trauma response.
I kinda feel bad for Hyeon because he has all these problems and genuinely needs therapy. His uncle could've gotten him help, as Hyeon called him out for, but didn't because of the stigma in Korea. Then only offered it when Hyeon's mental health deteriorated to the point it was going to affect his career, but the uncle had already taught him to look down on help through his previous actions.
If you think about it his story is genuinely tragic. He was forced into fame as a baby, his mom committed suicide, his dad was abusive, and due to the fame he was never allowed to grieve properly. Then because he's a more feminine man he was constantly sexually harassed and he couldn't even defend himself when they retaliated with rumors. A person like this genuinely does not have the opportunity to learn what is normal as they have never experienced normal. It reminds me of real child actors or even children of family channels that grow up with a lot of "problems" due to their fame. Again all this with no therapy and no one on his side.
I think he should still be held accountable and apologize, but in my honest opinion his actions do not make him as irredeemable as some comments make it out to be. He makes homophobic remarks (despite being gay) because his only interactions with gay men have been through the lens as a victim of sexual assault. Now is that correct? No. But when you consider Korea's already negative societal perception of LGBT plus his own traumatic experiences it makes sense why he projects those feelings onto the younger gay actor. Especially when he hasn't even worked his own feelings out yet.
I think why this is so interesting to me is that Eunho in my opinion is also not blameless here. I understand why he may have ghosted Hyeon due to his situation, but I dislike how he downplays how genuinely traumatizing it was for him. He knows of Hyeon's various problems and still works into the system of not getting him proper help due to his actor status/stigma. He already knows that Hyeon cannot sleep without him, to the point of Hyeon begging, and actively decides to leave. I think Eunho"s faults are to an extent lesser than Hyeon's, and I do see how one could make the argument that Hyeon is not a therapist. However I would also make the argument that if you are participating in a system that prevents Hyeon from wanting to seek professional help, you also can't tell him to go to a hospital once he's become codependent on you without kind of being a dick.
I feel like Eunho gets a pass from many of us in the audience because we can probably relate to him more. He's poor and had sick family he struggled to take care of. It's easier to put ourselves in his shoes and see where he's coming from. I would like to say if youre here you're probably not a billionaire actor lol. But I do think his lack of relatability and wealth makes us a lot more critical of Hyeon. It's kind of ironic but there's a panel that criticized the people who claimed well who cares about his trauma he inherited a billion dollars. And I feel in many ways we as the audience are doing the same by disregarding his story due to his weath.
I've read other stories where there's an asshole rich guy and I feel like usually it's rich guy is asshole to completely innocent twink. Then author wants them together so they are like well here's his redemption in the last 5 chapters. Hes not a bad guy hes just traumatized trope. Whereas I feel this story had pretty early on emphasized that Hyeon is an asshole, but also established his background early. Idk maybe I'm putting too much hope into a BL at 2 am in the morning lol