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YoCoochieGotGangrene June 28, 2026 3:11 pm

It’s sad how often people (irl) assume that a lawyer who they haven’t hired is acting in their best interests. If they aren’t your lawyer. they have NO legal obligation to help you understand anything you sign.The lawyer always does what’s best for their own client. Don’t be as naive as our little squirrel.

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    InnocentSheep June 29, 2026 5:39 am

    It’s also interesting also the way the paper was signed, idk if it’s country different or if it’s just loaning/loan shark that is like that.

    But if my impression is right, papers, especially related to money, loaning, transferring, etc. need to be signed on every single page, with the confirmation pages with signature and full name, sometimes along with a personalized seal or hand written about they consenting to what is going on.

    From legal standpoint, aside from paper that doesn’t have the signature or initials on it are rendered useless, and if clumps together with the signature pages, the whole thing are considered invalid.

    So depending on the setting of the world and country of this BL, the whole contract can be considered invalid and legally need to be terminated. lol

    Esti June 29, 2026 8:55 am
    It’s also interesting also the way the paper was signed, idk if it’s country different or if it’s just loaning/loan shark that is like that. But if my impression is right, papers, especially related to m... InnocentSheep

    Same for me sny banl stuff idk if it was every page but def more then just one

    InnocentSheep June 29, 2026 9:18 am
    Same for me sny banl stuff idk if it was every page but def more then just one Esti

    Pretty sure it’s every page with at least signature/short initials, and sometimes they might even overlap 2 papers, could be first pages of both documents or end page and start page of each other, if it’s a really more complicated contract/documents that related to the transfer of huge sum for specific purposes or the transfer of important assets.

    Though differ case by case, place to place. But usually they check pretty tight with money, especially when it’s a large sum, or real estate.

    Employment contracts or (home) rental contracts might required less, maybe just 1 signature with full name, cause usually that contract already have to follow the guidelines lay down by the government to be render as valid.

    Be careful y’all~ financial risks are crazy.

    cheesygarlicbread June 29, 2026 7:30 pm
    It’s also interesting also the way the paper was signed, idk if it’s country different or if it’s just loaning/loan shark that is like that. But if my impression is right, papers, especially related to m... InnocentSheep

    if they intended to forge it from the beginning, then they only needed one signature (alternatively, they could put carbon paper underneath idk)

    InnocentSheep June 29, 2026 7:57 pm
    if they intended to forge it from the beginning, then they only needed one signature (alternatively, they could put carbon paper underneath idk) cheesygarlicbread

    Emmm, forging is the right idea, but usually that requires specific talent, because the reason you need to hand sign is because of hand writing inconsistency. Carbon paper while not saying it’s not possible, pretty sure all important legal documents forbid the usage of them.
    Essentially, most documents are not as legal as you think, for example, newlywed people usually do a (not a pre-up) hand written contract ensuring their love and loyalty. Ultimately it doesn’t have legal protections, however can be use as proof in court for mutual agreement on paper, to gain advantage in certain goals.
    So yes, forging is an idea, but is it format legal or not and is valid under authority protection or not is completely a different subject. And yes, it works if the bad people bribes or lobbying the authorities in charge of their case, but again it’s depending case by case, place by place. Also, just the fact that the contract (in the manhwa) only have 1 copy, might render it useless. Like you said, forging/carbon paper with only 1 physical contracts can be argue in court that that it is a forgery and a total scam, not done under mutual agreement and consent.
    Generally, people should be somewhat aware of what you can do to protect your own legal rights, like the post owner said. Don’t trust a lawyer that is not yours, even when you have a lawyer you pay for, if the risk is high, and have the means, consult a different lawyer of a different establishment. There are reason big figures/big companies have a whole team/department of lawyers. When signing a contract, if forced against your will, try to leave signs, like a more messy incoherent signature, switch between font, etc. something not easy to notice but can be use as proof in court of this is not a mutual agreement. Of course you can also seek help online, ask for donations in all means possible, etc.

    InnocentSheep June 29, 2026 8:01 pm
    Emmm, forging is the right idea, but usually that requires specific talent, because the reason you need to hand sign is because of hand writing inconsistency. Carbon paper while not saying it’s not possible, ... InnocentSheep

    Essentially, please be careful, if possible, expand your knowledge about your local law and regulations. Don’t earnestly sign things asked of you, there are reason idols/actor/artist/star always have a fake signature to sign for fans, cause it’s rendered as useless under the law. Lol There is probably a lot more to be aware of, take your safety in your own hand, research, stay safe.

    YoCoochieGotGangrene June 29, 2026 9:45 pm

    I found my people!

    cheesygarlicbread June 30, 2026 3:16 am
    Emmm, forging is the right idea, but usually that requires specific talent, because the reason you need to hand sign is because of hand writing inconsistency. Carbon paper while not saying it’s not possible, ... InnocentSheep

    ah, i meant since it was a loan shark's contract, they prob don't care if the sign was forged or not bc they aren't going to handle things legally. so, one sign should suffice (for forgery). unless the mc has connections, political or alike, or can protect himself against gangsters, he won't necessarily have the courage to go up against them in court.

    thank you for the informative replies (both of them)!

    Esti June 30, 2026 8:54 am
    I found my people! YoCoochieGotGangrene

    Love legal advice on my bl

    YoCoochieGotGangrene June 30, 2026 12:16 pm
    It’s also interesting also the way the paper was signed, idk if it’s country different or if it’s just loaning/loan shark that is like that. But if my impression is right, papers, especially related to m... InnocentSheep

    This has been true for every legal doc I’ve signed. Each portion of the contract that deals with anything that wouldn’t be considered standard requires the initials of one or both parties. I’ve never seen a legal doc that had multiple pages and only required a single signature at the end. You’re right tho. All of that hinges on the country and its laws.

    I was so irritated when the mc was given stacks of papers from strangers and decided he could navigate what was happening with no legal experience. I also thought the grandmother was irresponsible for not taking any steps to legally protect the mc in the event of her death. Like, why take him in just to make him homeless if something happened to her? It didn’t make sense that someone as protective of him as she was would just ignore estate planning. Putting her assets in a trust for her ‘grandson’ and making him her trustee would have easily protected him and her assets against her son. And she would have at least given the mc access to estate planning attorneys so he wouldn’t be clueless about his options.

    YoCoochieGotGangrene June 30, 2026 12:18 pm

    ***And if anyone new is reading this, yes, we ALL KNOW this is fiction and that this particular financial crime in the bl helps drive the plot. Our commentary is for entertainment purposes only, and none of us are giving legal advice. If you or someone you love is experiencing similar challenges, please seek legal advice from professionals.***