CAN YOU SAY IT ONE MORE TIME TO THE ABSOLUTE HATE TRAIN RIDERS OMHG
Fetishized, romanticised and eroticised rape is wrong and yes if you're enjoying a manga with mindless rape porn then you're as weird as the people who read racistporn and say "it's just fiction" those who say they're against racistporn but enjoy rapeporn are Hypocrites periodt!
Oh nvm your reading list is full of rapeporn with 5 star review lmfao no wonder you think that enjoying rapeslops is fine.
Also, adding to this as an Asian, I can tell you that most asians are incredibly ignorant when it comes to Black people and their history.Despite experiencing racism and discrimination from white people themselves, many still put white people on a pedestal. At the very least, Jax apologized, acknowledged the issue, and cancelled the work, which is a good thing.
As for your last paragraph, there's nothing enjoyable about a story where someone gets raped and then falls in love with their rapist. Honestly, those kinds of rapeslops deserves to get cancelled too even though I know that's unlikely because rape has been so normalized in yaoi. But even if those stories keep getting published, readers can still be critical instead of giving them 5-star reviews and praising them.
I also think it's really weird when someone's reading list is full of these rapeslops with little to no actual plot. You can't tell me you're against mistreatment of racism but genuinely enjoyed stories like Jinx, Painter of the Night or reverse thinking where rape is romanticised, eroticised and treated so badly and expect me to act like that's normal, because those stories revolve around victims being repeatedly raped, with the assault framed as smut, only for the victim to eventually fall in love with their rapist.
Pause.....pump the brakes. I read popular stories from TikTok, let's start there. Secondly, some of those were stories I read years ago when I was seventeen and new to yaoi; I'm twenty now. I thought at the time they were top-of-the-line stories because they were overhyped. Jinx....being one of them, I've improved...I suppose because now it's a mid-ass story. Regardless of that, anyway, I clearly said I have the nuance to enjoy the story without supporting the character's actions. I've written various reviews, whether it be my own thread or adding to someone else's, on some of those stories you mentioned. I read those stories not even for the love story but rather because I like to analyze behavior, because yes...I love to yap. I love to overanalyze small details, but countless times I always say I don't support or it is not a justification for anything. I enjoy any analysis I can make from a story, point-blank period.
For example, Roses and Champagne, I hate the couple to no end, and I wrote a review on someone else's thread (i doubt you want to read but if you do let me know) it was essentially me explaining to someone why Lee-won doesn't leave Caesar, and I analyzed their entire relationship, and added I hated they ended up together while explaining that Leewon can't leave. Regardless, I read things for different reasons than others do. I read things because I am a character analysis psycho. My enjoyment is not in the 'romance' necessarily. Now I can understand how it seems like I'm a weirdo who enjoys rapeporn, I'm all about consent tho babes. I don't act like rape is normal, it's not normal....in fact, I've written as I said about topics such as that. Listen, I know my reading list didn't do me justice, but like.....you could've given me the benefit of the doubt and read one of my threads. My argument has never been 'it's just fiction'.
Also, I don't know if it seems like I'm hating on Jaxx, but that isn't my intent at all. In fact, I commended them for trying something risque and cancelling it because they saw it was harming others, and it looked bad. Also, to say I can't be against the mistreatment of my own people based on yaoi I've read is so crazy. You didn't even ask why I read it or looked past what I rated it. Now, in fairness, because I'm sure many people read it for the romance and use that excuse of 'it's just fiction,' but I'm not one of those. I think maybe you didn't get my point and thought I was trying to justify reading rape in yaoi. No, my point was that it wasn't the same thing or remotely comparable. That was my point because some people were asking, 'You guys read rape but draw the line at slavery.' I again can understand how it seems I was justifying rape in yaoi, but I was more so answering the question/comparison at hand. I literally said I wasn't downplaying rape, but rather that it wasn't comparable. And the reason the line was drawn for many people is that they saw the topic at hand wasn't going to be handled with proper care, as I mentioned. BTW, not throwing hate at you, but explaining to you so you don't think I'm trying to be rude.
You don't really get to have the chance of acting high and mighty on what others like to read considering your reading it illegally makes you absolutely no better. who gives a fuck what other people like to read whether it's dark romance or normal romance because let's be absolutely honest most BLs have some sort of dubious consent scene in them and that's like 95% of them, so no ducky no one will give a flying fuck what you think or what you dislike the world will just spin and I doubt people care what you like so instead of looking at other people's food eat the one in your plate
Thanks for the yap! I think i misjudged you too quickly and i apologise for that also i ty for explaining your pov you might be the rarest kind of readers who probably use critical thinking while reading but if i have to be honest it's still weird for me to see how normalised it has become to romanticize and fetishize rape in the mainstream yaoi.
Comparing piracy to enjoying rape porn? That's a whole new level of stupidity, though I shouldn't expect much from a raging racist and rape enthusiast. And no, Joon mub, you clearly gave enough of a fuck to write a whole ass paragraph with the IQ of a brick, whining because you felt personally attacked for enjoying rapeporn. So keep crying like you did before cause your racist porn got cancelled, or go jerk off to your favorite rape slop, suck some white mfs' dick, or whatever. Blocked.
I totally get it, it really shouldn’t be normalized and there are other ways to make it dark fiction without rape being involved. You’ve actually helped me with a new talking point because you made me think about something I didn’t fully consider so thank you. I’ll message you later girl. I have to commend you for making me think more on the topic.
Hey guys, so this is just my opinion, and me not being biased, and yes....I'm indeed black, let's carry on. Read it all before you decide to try and execute me in the comments. I would like to say I don't think Jaxx intended to be racist, and I don't think this manga was intended to come off as racist. I think that they wanted to do a story in which the period itself was briefly a factor of the manga. I can totally see how this comes off as racist yaoi slop. I think that while it wasn't intended to be racist, it is written in ignorance and in a way of 'oh the main guy so humble for letting the slaves go' and the love interest is a 'humble slave master' it's giving that slaves they had weither they looked after then or inherited them due to their 'humbleness' if you will, we must completely glamorize and glorify them because they aren't bad like the brutal instances of slavery we know about and even don't know about in history.
I think Jaxx jumped the gun and should've gotten fellow black individuals' opinions on this before they published this. I think if they did this and actually put more care into how they wrote this, I think it wouldn't have gotten nearly as much backlash as it got. With a topic like this, you have to be extremely careful or simply not write it at all. Jaxx could've easily just written about the time period and left slavery out of it completely, or loosely have it added (such as slavery is abolished or currently the civil war is ongoing). I doubt Jaxx was going to heavily talk about slavery in itself, and it was going to be a book about a man who sets slaves free and is a slave owner. It comes off condescending and watered down, so we can digest this so we don't feel disgusted reading it.
This was extremely risque and as much as I want to commend them for taking such a huge risk, I also think it's incredibly stupid because I could've altered this plot to where it wouldn't have nearly been offensive, and it could've still been yaoi with maybe a similar and dare I say a more interesting plot. It could've been a rivalry between two generals or commanders in the Civil War who fall for each other, but they are on opposing sides because idk they have a father who they are scared to disappoint, so they have to be for slavery but they don't actually have that view. Hell...it could've been about two generals on the same side that are scared to be gay because they know, on top of being abolitionists, they would get murdered for being gay. Or cowboys who trade goods....anything would've been better than this.
BTW, not saying this actually should've been written.....but I'm just saying.....there were better storylines if you were gonna do this kind of political story of this multitude. All this to say....regardless, I don't think Jaxx was going to be able to give this type of history justice anyways, because I doubt Jaxx did their due diligence in learning enough history to do this manga. (I see comments saying in Korean they aren't even taught about slavery.) Respectfully, I'm not losing sleep that the story is cancelled, and neither should you. I think the criticism they got was fair, and I don't think it needs to be written, especially after they cancelled it.
The thing is, it would look so bad on Jaxx if they came back after they said the book was cancelled and they came back to finish it, and not only that, they didn't improve the story. It's a big slap in the face to black people. Also, those who are comparing people, I guess loving manga with rape to slavery (drawing the line at slavery), are actually insane and incredibly ignorant. Not only did people during slavery rape black people, but they ate them, lynched them, used their skin as decorations, made them have sex in front of others to emasculate/humiliate each other.....the list goes on. I have nuance to enjoy a book while not justifying or ignoring the actions of the characters in the book, but we are not about to compare fucking slavery that lasted over 200 years, to rape in yaoi. It is not remotely the same. Not downplaying rape, obviously, but I want you to genuinely hear how fucking insane this sounds. 'You can read rape in yaoi, but you draw the line at slavery?' Yes, bitch I do, *imagine I can add a meme, and it's Cardi B in court meme gesturing to her eyes* like are some off yall deadass?