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I'm so interested about the Miller family like tf is wrong with them

h a i i r o July 13, 2026 5:46 am

I've never read the novel and I'm just curious why Grayson is so fucked up in the head. Like is being a psycho a dominant alpha thing? Was he really abused as a child? Although if I'm understanding this correctly he kinda wants what his parents have like being fated partners and stuff so I'm just curious on why would they even abuse their child. I've read kiss me if you can and I know he's one of the reasons why Chase got traumatised and also got fucked on the head...although I think Chase's personality was pretty normal unlike him

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    Haveyouseenmygirl July 13, 2026 6:04 am

    Grayson miller manifested as a dominant alpha soon after he was born which affected his brain function on emotions. He feels emotions but can’t understand his emotions or others emotions . Grayson is more like Ashley (his father ) and his grandfather Dominic. Both Ashley and Dominic brain s got affected. To understand this you need to read their novel .

    h a i i r o July 13, 2026 6:21 am
    Grayson miller manifested as a dominant alpha soon after he was born which affected his brain function on emotions. He feels emotions but can’t understand his emotions or others emotions . Grayson is more lik... Haveyouseenmygirl

    Thank you for that! I really want to start reading the novel cuz I like how the author write about really flawed characters it's so interesting but brain can't just stand reading novels

    Lylyly1125 July 13, 2026 6:24 am

    Novel spoilers.

    This is just how I interpreted the universe.
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    I don't think being a dominant alpha automatically makes someone a psychopath. Dominant alphas are simply more prone to mental instability if their pheromones accumulate and aren't released regularly, and the higher their pheromone levels, the greater the risk. Grayson inherited the highest dominant alpha pheromone levels among Ashley's children, so Ashley was terrified he'd end up like his own father, Dominic Miller, who was a complete psychopath and basically the worst-case scenario.

    I also don't think Ashley intentionally abused Grayson. Ashley himself grew up under Dominic's abuse, so I see his parenting as someone trying to build a better family without ever having a healthy example. He definitely wasn't a good parent, but I think he paid extra attention to Grayson out of fear rather than favoritism.

    As for Grayson, I don't think he's "just crazy." He seems to have a kind of emotional blindness—he processes emotions very literally—so when you combine that with his dominant alpha traits and upbringing, it's easier to understand why he turned out the way he did. Chase was traumatized, but he still had a much more typical way of understanding emotions than Grayson.

    h a i i r o July 13, 2026 7:07 am
    Novel spoilers.This is just how I interpreted the universe....................I don't think being a dominant alpha automatically makes someone a psychopath. Dominant alphas are simply more prone to mental inst... Lylyly1125

    That's so interesting!! I think I'm understanding it a little better now. As you said, his father probably disciplined Grayson more, especially at times where he'd cross the line (which he probably did a lot knowing he can't understand human emotions) and those disciplinary methods are probably similar to Dominic's (It's probably kinda abusive but kinda normalized in these kind of households) and yeah all of those so Grayson can be a little bit more "normal". I'm kinda of curious tho. Did their other father or mother idk not participate on their upbringing?? Idk like the cliche of maybe showering your kids with love can maybe turn them more normal. I also don't think it was mentioned on Chase's story? (It felt more like he was neglected)

    Lylyly1125 July 13, 2026 7:47 am
    That's so interesting!! I think I'm understanding it a little better now. As you said, his father probably disciplined Grayson more, especially at times where he'd cross the line (which he probably did a lot kn... h a i i r o

    This maybe kinda long, spoilers ahead
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    From what I've gathered (I haven't read much of Ashley and Koi's novel yet), Koi wasn't uninvolved in their upbringing because he didn't want to be.

    Ashley is extremely protective of Koi—to the point that he genuinely can't live without him. Because of Ashley's own genes and what happened with Dominic, Ashley was terrified that one of their children, especially Grayson, might end up hurting Koi. This actually happened at one point—Koi nearly died while he was with the children—which only confirmed Ashley's fears.

    After that, Ashley kept Koi separated from the children unless Ashley himself was present. So I got the impression that Koi adored his children but couldn't really oppose Ashley on this because, in Ashley's mind, protecting Koi came above everything else. Koi could really only spend time with the children when Ashley was around.

    As for whether more love would've made Grayson "normal," I don't really think so. Grayson's biggest issue isn't that he lacked love—it's that he processes emotions and people very differently. Affection can help, but it can't magically give him the emotional intuition he doesn't naturally have.

    For Chase, I don't think it was neglect either. To me, it felt more like he was the child who needed the least intervention, so the story naturally focused less on his upbringing compared to Grayson. That's just my interpretation, though.

    What I also find really interesting is Dane's role in Grayson's life. It feels like Dane gradually fills in the gaps that Ashley and Koi couldn't—not because they didn't love Grayson, but because there were things they simply couldn't teach or provide given the circumstances they were in. Watching Grayson slowly learn those things through Dane is one of the reasons I find the story so compelling. The more you read, the more you realize Grayson's development isn't about suddenly becoming "normal," but about finally having someone who understands how to reach him.

    h a i i r o July 13, 2026 8:11 am
    This maybe kinda long, spoilers ahead...............From what I've gathered (I haven't read much of Ashley and Koi's novel yet), Koi wasn't uninvolved in their upbringing because he didn't want to be.Ashley is ... Lylyly1125

    I really appreciate you for replying! I'm so obsessed with like the dynamics of these couples starting from kiss me if you can to this one. There's depth to the characters and I just like how these "not so perfect" dominant alphas are portrayed (author must be a genius) Now I kinda want to read their parents story too...I want to read the novel too but my attention span could never

    Lylyly1125 July 13, 2026 8:29 am
    I really appreciate you for replying! I'm so obsessed with like the dynamics of these couples starting from kiss me if you can to this one. There's depth to the characters and I just like how these "not so perf... h a i i r o

    Honestly, agreed—kudos to this author for his/her complex writing skills—the author also authored ‘roses and champagne’ and he/she aimed to continue the ‘kiss me’ series next year

    Haveyouseenmygirl July 13, 2026 10:03 am
    I really appreciate you for replying! I'm so obsessed with like the dynamics of these couples starting from kiss me if you can to this one. There's depth to the characters and I just like how these "not so perf... h a i i r o

    Out of all the other novels , Desire me if you can is my favourite. I don’t want to spoil why i am
    Crazy about the dynamics between Grayson and Dane . All I can spoil for now is : Two Flawed , complex characters fell in love .
    Enjoy you are up for a roller coaster ride

    h a i i r o July 13, 2026 10:26 am
    Out of all the other novels , Desire me if you can is my favourite. I don’t want to spoil why i amCrazy about the dynamics between Grayson and Dane . All I can spoil for now is : Two Flawed , complex characte... Haveyouseenmygirl

    I'm already too excited rn fr!!! I might as well check the novel at this point because I can't wait any longer

    Hanna July 13, 2026 10:37 am

    All the above comments are somewhat true uk as ppl have different understanding capabilities and different povs. On thing, i would like to mention that Chase's brain wasn't fucked up in head because of Grayson. He was normal. He gets unconscious often because of the injections and heavy doses of drugs that he was taking and that was completely chase choice. Grayson actually wanted him to quit taking injections and start using the safest way of pheromones extraction aka sex and that's the reason he did what he did and caused him dog phobia actually. And it was mentioned in the omega brother story that if Grayson hadn't took care of Chase Pheromones for so long, chase would actually have gone insane way back.

    Also there is some part of parenting that readers often mistake. I have explained that part here :

    https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/22763467/
    You can check if you wanna know.

    h a i i r o July 13, 2026 11:16 am
    All the above comments are somewhat true uk as ppl have different understanding capabilities and different povs. On thing, i would like to mention that Chase's brain wasn't fucked up in head because of Grayson.... Hanna

    Oh yeah Chase was actually pretty normal and his abysmal personality at the start was probably due to the drug abuse and accumulated stress and trauma. On the latest chapters he's actually pretty sweet probably because he's not abusing drugs anymore and Josh is with him. I really don't like Grayson from that story but I also know that he kinda makes sense (he lacks empathy and doesn't understand why Chase keeps on relying on drugs when there's like a million omega that wants him) It's like he's trying to help in his own fucked up way.

    I've read the thread and woah holy shit that's actually insane. They're all so deeply flawed like how did Grayson even think about poisoning his father (oh yeah, he's fucked in the head) and Ash too really wasn't really suited to be a father but yeah...they didn't really have a choice

    Hanna July 13, 2026 12:35 pm
    Oh yeah Chase was actually pretty normal and his abysmal personality at the start was probably due to the drug abuse and accumulated stress and trauma. On the latest chapters he's actually pretty sweet probably... h a i i r o

    Another correction, chase was actually violent by nature. Like he was sensitive, moody and violent too. It was Bliss who used to call him Mad dog. His parents had the most difficulty in understanding chase than others. And Grayson actually don't understand what's wrong in sleeping with Omegas for Pheromones extraction as Ashley always told them that this is not sex and it should be separated. He made Nathaniel and other Alphas children to release pheromones by having sex since they were children (Nath was 10 whn Ashley sent him to those party). So grayson being not able to understand anything, whatever Ashley told him is like the right thing. So he really thinks that chase is making unnecessary fuss.

    And Grayson wasn't trying to poison Koi. Koi can't taste or smell, so Ashley was extra cautious abt that. All the children (incl Nath and Stacy) were curious why as they never explained anything to the children. So Grayson came up with an idea to see if its true and he put detergent in koi's cake so that they finally knw if it's true or not. And while koi was eating the cake, grayson was constantly askin him is the cake okay, are you okay? Koi did felt some particles in the cake but he still ate them thinking his son had made a cake for him.

    Haveyouseenmygirl July 13, 2026 3:45 pm
    Oh yeah Chase was actually pretty normal and his abysmal personality at the start was probably due to the drug abuse and accumulated stress and trauma. On the latest chapters he's actually pretty sweet probably... h a i i r o

    If you are going to read Desire me if you can novel , I wish you luck . You ll learn more about Dane and Grayson . After finishing the novel , Do share your review and your opinion

    h a i i r o July 18, 2026 7:35 am
    If you are going to read Desire me if you can novel , I wish you luck . You ll learn more about Dane and Grayson . After finishing the novel , Do share your review and your opinion Haveyouseenmygirl

    Seems like my attention span is perfectly fine cuz I finished reading it all and I really love it!!

    They're so perfect together, and Grayson's character development?! He's a fucking green forest when it comes to Dane. I actually didn't expect that.

    Like for Grayson, Dane is someone who actually looks at him and doesn't just label him as a psycho just bcuz of his phenotype. Grayson just really thinks in a literal way and is more innocent than people give him credit for, he's not some evil mastermind everyone assumes he is. Dane also helped him understand the emotions he's feeling. In a sense he's like his moral compass I think

    And for Dane, Grayson is just someone who's there loving him with his whole heart without asking for anything in return (maybe except permission to rub his Virginia to Venus lmao my consent king). Yeah, he's always saying he loves him, but he never forces Dane to reciprocate. And when Dane asked him to end their relationship, he kept his promise and disappeared from his life. That's literally just his purple-eyed puppy and Dane is already far too gone when he sees him in this way it's so cute!!

    I still think Ashley and Koi were severely lacking as parents. Sure, they keep saying they did their best, but like... I don't think so (not sure tho, maybe this was elaborated on in the other novels).

    I think Grayson just really needed a personal connection with someone to help him understand—or even feel—his emotions, which Dane definitely did. It's like when you don't socialize your puppy and then expect him to be normal. I thought Koi could've helped with that, but ik Ashley wouldn't allow it, especially after the poisoning incident.

    Like in Chase's case too... why is there basically no parental supervision at all?? If I knew my kids were capable of unhinged actions because they're a little fucked in the head, I'd be keeping an eye on them 24/7. And maybe if they do something wrong I'll actually explain why what they're doing is wrong instead of just throwing them in the basement or leaving everything to the professional but I'm not a parent, so idkkk.

    I also feel like Ashley was only interested in the kids because of Koi. Like he literally said Koi would hate him if the kids are fucked so ig he's taking care of them. It feels like he never really paid attention unless it was about extracting their pheromones or doing the bare minimum of making sure they're still breathing and not murdering someone.
    It also felt like he never really believed in Grayson and was way too concerned about him becoming like Dominic. Like sir... that's YOUR child It's YOUR responsibility to raise him NOT to be like Dominic.

    Besides that tho, I loved how Ashley actually had some character development later on. He started believing Grayson was capable of changing and that his son had already changed. He was gentler when talking to him and even seemed genuinely concerned. It's so funny tho when Grayson immediately thought that Daddy's got brain damage and Papa needs to take him to the doctor. Like Grayson were you raised in the military?!! He definitely needed Koi's guidance and warmth but it can't be really helped.

    I think my fave parts were Josh, Dane, and Grayson's interactions. It's so funny how Josh is their #1 hater when he also indirectly pushed this couple into existence!! Josh asking Dane to kidnap Grayson so his princess Chase could heal from his trauma is so Josh. It's so hilariously Josh like

    I hope there's more to the side story cuz it's not enough T-T Idk if they'll end up having children since Dane didn't want to before, but in the last chapters it kinda seemed like he was thinking about it. I'm good either way. Hopefully they'd be better parents if they do.

    I think I'm rambling too much... I really need to sleep wahhh!! But thanks for recommending the novel. It's so peak fr

    h a i i r o July 18, 2026 7:41 am
    Seems like my attention span is perfectly fine cuz I finished reading it all and I really love it!!They're so perfect together, and Grayson's character development?! He's a fucking green forest when it comes to... h a i i r o

    P.s In my head they're already married and built a loving family with their two kids (Darling and Alex)

    Haveyouseenmygirl July 18, 2026 7:45 am
    Seems like my attention span is perfectly fine cuz I finished reading it all and I really love it!!They're so perfect together, and Grayson's character development?! He's a fucking green forest when it comes to... h a i i r o

    Thank you so much for giving it a chance .
    I am not really good at writing reviews. DMIYC broke me and healed me. And good news , i think we will see their kids in the extra side stores . There is a rumour that , they are going to have triplets .

    h a i i r o July 18, 2026 7:54 am
    Thank you so much for giving it a chance .I am not really good at writing reviews. DMIYC broke me and healed me. And good news , i think we will see their kids in the extra side stores . There is a rumour that ... Haveyouseenmygirl

    Triplets!!?? How will they handle 3 babies at once lmao I'm so excited already!!

    Lylyly1125 July 18, 2026 8:07 am
    Triplets!!?? How will they handle 3 babies at once lmao I'm so excited already!! h a i i r o

    Hahaha—but the better question is how will Dane handle 3 babies AND Grayson, for sure there’s gotta be jealousy when venus needs to breastfeed

    Haveyouseenmygirl July 18, 2026 8:13 am
    Hahaha—but the better question is how will Dane handle 3 babies AND Grayson, for sure there’s gotta be jealousy when venus needs to breastfeed Lylyly1125

    Dane will give in
    And yeah you can imagine the rest of the scenario