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im confused. didnt chase miller have a sad childhood backstory bc of his family? why do th...

matcharap August 10, 2026 2:29 pm

im confused. didnt chase miller have a sad childhood backstory bc of his family? why do they (his fam members) seem pretty normal here. istg grayson tried to make chase fuck a dog in his story or he at least made him think that he fucked it. also grayson was a massive dick in kiss me liar. are we forgetting that he knew that the bottom was gonna get graped in the earlier chapters and he didnt do shit about it. im so confused why are we rooting for grayson??? idk he js doesnt deserve a happy story for me. dane is too goated for this shit.

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    puppnotwolf August 10, 2026 2:45 pm

    (copied this)

    Hanna August 5, 2026 9:10 am

    These are some lines exactly from the novels, idr the chp no but i had ss of them:


    Deflower me of you can:

    "Other things were fine when it came to Chase, but his problem was that he didn't manage his pheromones properly. If pheromones built up in an Extreme Alpha, it could cause serious brain damage in extreme cases. Yet despite that, he refused to have sex, which was the most effective way to clear out pheromones.

    "I don't want to sleep with anyone unless it's someone I truly love."

    Could there be anything more stupid to say? He didn't have to date anyone, just have sex, but he was refusing even that.

    Because of that, Grayson had to pay careful attention so Chase wouldn't go crazy from pheromone buildup. If it hadn't been for him, Chase's brain would have been ruined long ago and he'd have turned into a wreck."


    "So Grayson had always taken special care of the two of them. He spared no effort, believing that as a family member and an older brother, looking after his inadequate younger siblings was his duty and natural obligation".



    Kmiyc:
    "I said it was because he cared about you," Josh added, though even he didn't believe those words.

    Chase stopped abruptly and turned to him, his eyes burning with rage.

    "Grayson doesn't know what emotions are. He just imitates them."

    Josh shrugged slightly, his expression unimpressed.

    "He also said you never slept with anyone before."

    "You were always sedated with injections," Josh continued, his voice gentler now. "And the reason he kept it hidden for so long was because you kept rejecting your Rut. So he tried to scare you into accepting it."

    puppnotwolf August 10, 2026 2:48 pm

    regarding yeonwoo, he saved him even

    "The pheromone party incident in #KissMeLiar is, in my opinion, one of the strongest examples of this. Because it reveals several crucial aspects of Grayson's character. First of all, Grayson knows exactly what kind of party it is. He knows who attends those parties. He knows what happens there. More importantly, he believes that the vast majority of people who attend are there by their own choice. I think this is something the fandom sometimes overlooks. Consent is at the very core of Grayson's worldview. In fact, I would argue that he is almost obsessed with the concept of consent. He strongly believes in people's right to make their own choices. Because of that, under normal circumstances, he would have no reason to interfere with a party like this. From his perspective, everyone attending knows what they are walking into and has made that decision for themselves.

    But something changes when it comes to Yeonwoo.

    Because Grayson knows Yeonwoo.

    He knows what kind of person Yeonwoo is.

    He knows how naive Yeonwoo can be. As a result, he does not make the same assumption about Yeonwoo that he makes about everyone else.

    To me, this is the most fascinating part of the entire situation.

    Grayson does not possess any magical information that allows him to predict the future. Nobody tells him, "Yeonwoo is going to be in danger." He simply paid attention to Yeonwoo. He observed him. He understood him. And through that understanding, he realized that Yeonwoo might not fully grasp the true nature of the party. That is an incredibly subtle character observation. Because at that point Grayson is not merely analyzing an event — he is analyzing a person.

    That is why, before the party even begins, he specifically asks whether Yeonwoo has his medication with him. Later he warns him that he may see things he does not want to see. Then, when they meet at the party, he openly says that he warned both Yeonwoo and Keith about it.

    Looking back now, those scenes carry far more weight than they did on a first reading. Grayson sees the approaching disaster. Keith does not. Yeonwoo does not. The reader does not. But Grayson does. Even so, he does not try to dictate Yeonwoo's decisions, because that would go against his own principles. His tendency not to interfere in other people's choices remains consistent. Yet he also does not remain silent. He does what he can within the boundaries of his own character and tries to warn him.

    This is why I have never agreed with the interpretation that Grayson was fundamentally a bad person. I think Zig has been showing us this for a very long time. The issue is not that Grayson changed. The issue is that we spent years viewing him through Chase's anger, Josh's opinions, and Yeonwoo's confusion. One of the reasons I am so excited for #DesireMeIfYouCan is that, for the first time, we will be able to view Grayson from a much closer perspective rather than from the outside."

    (copied this also)

    Annie August 10, 2026 3:19 pm

    Because every character is a part of a big world and not the only story? If we can conclude whether someone deserve a happy ending or not base on someone else's POV then most of the elite dominant alpha in this world does not. Even Chase in POV of other people like Henry is as fuck up as Grayson to Chase and it only make him more sympathetic with his personal story so why not Grayson?