I mean, dropping it because of that is a bit iffy. The comic revolves around the children the hero left behind and how their coping with their life without their father around. The mc is, in the beginning, kind of like the hero but is changing slowly but surely interacting with his brothers and sisters. Like, the characters are fighting each other, but it's about getting to know their past and how they each dealt with their own suffering from having a father like that. Reducing the comic to that feels like you're narrow-minded. Just say you don't fuck with the characters or you find the comic boring. What you're describing is the start of the comic, but we're following the lives of many characters, not the heroes'. He's been dead.
Firstly stop projecting your head cannon on to me about why I dropped this peice of media. Second, I just get exhausted of seeing media, not give people and men in general enough flack for being mediocre or straight up negligent parents. Like kids are living beings and to have a kid and not show up for them long term and sustainablely is just bad parenting. If i started to assume things about you, like you did to me. I would say " so you think its okay for people to have kids and not be responsible in rasing them, so a thousand kids is okay as long as you have the money for it?" But i didn't, instead I say I have certain standards for what is considered good parents and realistically its really difficult to raise 12 kids and show up for them emotionally and socially. Like be so fucking for real right now and tell the the issues some of the characters are facing isn't because of developmental issues and negligent parenting. Like if the shadow of a bad father wasn't so prominent then why are so many of them exhibiting traits of emotionally stunted adults.
Was I excusing the hero for what he did? No, I'm just saying that the comic is more than the hero having many children. The point is to get hyped up with how the characters will fight and get to know more about them, learn more about the world and get attached to the characters you like. Emphasizing on only what the hero did is just weird to me because that's only the hook. Headcanon or not, we don't know what the next chapters will show, that's the point, to be eager what the mc and the side characters will do next or what they'll say next. They have problems, okay, let's see how they confront them. Will they keep sticking to their own motivation for the money or will they give it up for their sibiling? That's the point of these action comics, to make headcanons of what could happen next, then revise and make some new ones when more chapters come along.
Well if you weren't so " narrow minded" you would have left my vent post alone because you realised not everyone enjoys the same things. I did not like the hook. When your describing the point in reading this story like learning character motivations, hyped up about the future fights, and understanding the story setting and world building. Those points aren't unique to this story. That's how most people approach many stories. Why are you trying to teach someone to drink coffee, while they like tea in the justification of decorum and manners. If I wasn't caught on the hook and felt slighted for my time how is that a you issue. The " Emphasis" on the hero is because thats literally part of the world building and setting. Why are you cherry picking what elements of the story someone should and shouldn't focus on. Did I ask for you to work in my cherry orchard? This is why next time please keep to your internet business insted of being all up in my business.
Nah, it was just funny to see you being triggered about this so I just wanted to keep poking you till you admitted that you just find this comic boring and not because of your starting point. I don't know, I guess your vent post triggered me so I decided to trigger you back. Guess it worked.
I guess having a meaningful conversation sounds like " triggered " to you. The way you be sniffing that copium lol
Not like you, who quit reading a comic where the the hero played into the trope of a reckless harem mc and we get to see the consequences of that after he's dead. Took you long enough to respond too. You found the convo meaningful? That's one way of seeing it, I guess.
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second time I've seen someone complain about bad male representation in a deadbeat dad character. are the men doing alright, it's a stereotype for a reason
well, tbh, i think its because media, mostly shows female characters being the primary victims, not that its a bad thing, it does show awareness, but there should also be just as much for male ones too, its not only a single gender issue, and even with that, its still a complex issue that has alot of nuances. Its an unfortunate stereotype, because of social media mostly; it just tends to reinforce an "us vs them" mentality at times. BUT, thats just my opinion from personal research; i could be inaccurate somewhere(〜￣△￣)〜. Uhm, main point, i think to fix the stereotype, we gotta rid of the mentality first(๑•ㅂ•)و✧
The story and the characters make it clear that he's a horrible deadbeat father and they trashtalk him all the time XD
They also literally show the horrible consequences of the hero siring all these children and then abandoning them and the women he got pregnant.
The hook of the story is so damn obvious that it's about the children and the effects of parental neglect.
Maybe don't judge a story when you barely know any of it.
"from personal research" then you should know deadbeat dad is matched with obsessive controlling emotionally abusive mom right? it's practically a staple in shoujo, with deadbeat dad for shonen titles
it's not a stereotype because of social media, it's a stereotype bc there was a basis in reality enough for media to pick up on and use as a plot device (or joke) without having anyone to explain it. the same with asians being good at math or being expected to be doctors, lawyers, etc.
media (or fiction) is just the vehicle by which the stereotypes are reinforced, there is no getting rid of the mentality without first matching reality.
I don't deny that, but social and other forms of media still perpetuate and reinforce it, making it a worse issue, which was my main point
from personal research" then you should know deadbeat dad is matched with obsessive controlling emotionally abusive mom right?
Yk to be honest, I've not been seeing much of the obsessive controlling emotionally abusive mom trope being done too often. Not saying it doesn't happen but I haven't been seeing them as.... plentiful as the dead beat dad trope
you gotta read josei/seinen, some in kr rofans, bc shonen titles will have dead mom or distant mom trope more
you can't exactly stop a phenomenon that's older than either of us by saying we should stop buying into stereotypes. it comes off as #notallmen frankly
Well, if we can't stop it by not buying into stereotypes then what do you think can stop it, if it's even possible to
The notifs to this thread keep on appearing on my notifs section, and i'm saying this again:
The story makes it fucking clear that he's a horrible father. This story IS giving him flack for being a deadbeat and negligent parent. They practically spoonfeed this to readers.
Maybe stop projecting your our own headcanons about the story you barely know about?
You're complaining about how a story doesn't call out men for being negligent parents, when that's what this series has been doing the entire time. It's annoying as hell when people jump to conclusions.
Like i feel like this shows parallel between real life harems too. Like if i wanted to read about a terrible father. Id read elon musk biography. Like lokey this is just the consequences of a man being a breeder but in fanstasy. Dropping it. I genuinely feel for his kids though like your father a hoe and a bum like broo