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I think it would have been just a teeny better if Kaoru started dating another guy when Ar...

iamxrae July 15, 2018 12:07 am

I think it would have been just a teeny better if Kaoru started dating another guy when Aragaki found him the second time. That would have really shaken Aragaki up. Nothing opens a selfish seme's eyes like seeing who he thinks is his (when he wouldn't even commit), with someone else.

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    Mameiha August 27, 2018 9:15 am

    I thought the same thing. And when Karou is confronted he could say, "He just came on to me so...", like Aragaki always did. He needs a good taste of his own medicine.

    Chiyuri-sama August 28, 2018 3:09 pm
    I thought the same thing. And when Karou is confronted he could say, "He just came on to me so...", like Aragaki always did. He needs a good taste of his own medicine. Mameiha

    Haha, I've actually read a manga with that story line and, hmm... it was satisfying at first, of course, getting back at the other and all that but as the reader who knows they're going to end up together anyway yet both of them have hurt each other just for the sake of being fair, I feel really sad.

    Mameiha August 28, 2018 4:20 pm
    Haha, I've actually read a manga with that story line and, hmm... it was satisfying at first, of course, getting back at the other and all that but as the reader who knows they're going to end up together anywa... Chiyuri-sama

    Human's are selfish, self-satisfying creatures. We have to fight our true nature in order to be decent people. Because this is the case, we often screw up pretty bad and do dumb things that hurt others and, in turn, hurt ourselves. This is why forgiveness is so important to us as well, whether it is giving it, getting it or withholding it. You're right, it is sad. The ideal would be to just forgive. You won't forget, that's impossible, a bell can't be "un-rung", but you can move forward and try to do better with the opportunity. Sadly, though, most humans are pretty stingy with forgiveness. Which, of course, circles back to us being selfish and self-satisfying. It's a vicious cycle that anyone can simply choose to break.

    Chiyuri-sama August 28, 2018 5:21 pm
    Human's are selfish, self-satisfying creatures. We have to fight our true nature in order to be decent people. Because this is the case, we often screw up pretty bad and do dumb things that hurt others and, in ... Mameiha

    Have you read this already?
    http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawareru/
    Somewhat the same as our topic but I think this manga's author showed more skill in the sense that satisfaction for the readers as they see the seme suffer for his misdeeds were properly delivered without tainting the uke's pure character.

    Mameiha August 28, 2018 5:56 pm
    Have you read this already? http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawareru/Somewhat the same as our topic but I think this manga's author showed more skill in the sense that satisfaction... Chiyuri-sama

    Yes, just recently. The uke handled the whole situation in a very mature and dignified way. Which allowed the seme to self reflect on his own and, in doing so, realized his own faults without having to be told directly. It was one of the most mature ways I've ever seen such situations handled in a manga. I liked it very much.

    Mameiha August 28, 2018 6:04 pm
    Have you read this already? http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hina_wa_mitsuiro_no_koi_ni_torawareru/Somewhat the same as our topic but I think this manga's author showed more skill in the sense that satisfaction... Chiyuri-sama

    Also, we tend to ignore it when others point out our faults, but when we are forced to look for ourselves and find them, the impact is much greater. Thus, the changes we make to ourselves will be more profound. This was well portrayed in the manga you mentioned. I really enjoyed it.

    randomfangirl September 4, 2018 12:29 pm
    Haha, I've actually read a manga with that story line and, hmm... it was satisfying at first, of course, getting back at the other and all that but as the reader who knows they're going to end up together anywa... Chiyuri-sama

    Title please? (●'◡'●)ノ

    Chiyuri-sama September 4, 2018 3:33 pm
    Title please? (●'◡'●)ノ randomfangirl

    It's "Overdose" by Kawai Touko. Just to be clear, this is the story where the neko himself gets back at the scumbag seme. "Hina wa Mitsuiro no Koi ni Torawareru" was the one where the neko just leaves the seme be. Happy reading, @randomfangirl.

    iamxrae September 5, 2018 1:46 am
    It's "Overdose" by Kawai Touko. Just to be clear, this is the story where the neko himself gets back at the scumbag seme. "Hina wa Mitsuiro no Koi ni Torawareru" was the one where the neko just leaves the seme ... Chiyuri-sama

    Oh yeah, I like Hina wa... better than Overdose. It was made more obvious that the seme in Hina wa was suffering from the loss of the uke. Not as much in overdose.

    Chiyuri-sama September 5, 2018 8:55 am
    Oh yeah, I like Hina wa... better than Overdose. It was made more obvious that the seme in Hina wa was suffering from the loss of the uke. Not as much in overdose. iamxrae

    I totally agree with you. Hina wa was way better than Overdose but the latter was indeed a bit shorter than the former so maybe that was it, readers can't feel the seme's "struggle". Supporting characters did point out, though, that the seme was slowly falling apart although he himself may not have noticed.