Pretty sure my 6yr old nephew could translate this better and English isn't even our first language. Seems like the translator neglected their education and wanted to show it off online
So basically Yeowoon is like my friend that nearly everyone in our school had a crush on (including me) cuz of how he acted and hes a genuinely fun person to be around. Bro was so oblivious how his actions made people feel
I mean yeah all for the divorce but it's the same sht of ml isn't abusive just ignorant of his own actions but in other stories, people still root for him. It's obvious there was something about the past that the author is purposefully hiding cuz it's important to their story and connection and it's obvious too that Dilov needs Seira cuz of pian (like Espers and Guides situation) which means it could end in him losing himself to the power but she's like "money money money so what about your situation that could lead to death" Annoying af
I mean the orignal Duchess literally dies so like it's not just about simple ignorance
She already pitied the orignal Duchess while she was reading the novel so I honestly don't blame her that she doesn't care even a little bit about him
Maybe because of the translations here that's why you didn't understand the FL, but she did say that if she's just a reader or a 3rd party, she might be able to understand the ex-husband situation. But because it's about HER now (someone who'll suffer and die if she stays as a Duchess) she decided to divorce him and let the ex husband and pink hair be together.
I think many people here forget how people can often end up blaming others for going through hardships. Often turning their source of motivation to blaming them acting like that person forced them to do such. It's common irl. I'm not saying ML should be pardoned for the things he did and praise FL cuz she isn't all that ignorant especially now that she acknowledged how her peace was the result many others suffering. What I hate most about braindead comments in this site is people choose a side when humans are morally gray.
Ignorance was bliss for FL and those who don't agree with this fail to understand how much she benefitted of it as she was shielded from the real world. ML loved her and pushed himself to be able to stay by her side and ended up blaming her most likely from the torture he had to endure which isn't right but that was the only shield to keep himself sane.
Scolding people for feeling like his abuse does not excuse him turning into an abuser and driving a woman to suicide by psychologically and physically tormenting her is wild.
Never said he should be pardoned. And I don't remember him physically tormenting her but it's probably just my bad memory. Comparing the two is like weighing the trauma of a long lived emotional abuse and a soldier who killed his friends just to live and return to his family. It's (arguably) useless to do so
My only point was many of the comments didn't just blame his negligence and abuse but acted like he deserved the hell he's been through for something that he did AFTER all the torturous life he lived.
It's like laughing at a guy who isolated himself after getting severely bullied and pushing everyone away in a destructive way.
Y'all hating JK so much when I'm pretty sure a lot of you would think "maybe it's worth" or "I can change him" when a handsome guy with "personality issues" shows interest in you T^T
I mean, I know A LOT of people who does that and only blames the guy hurting them when they were also at fault for choosing to stay even after an intervention dafuq
Personally I know one who married her abuser, one who broke up in the worst way with a rally toxic guy and he got her new man in a car accident, and one who agreed in his bf requests for open relationships(with no rules which is vital for open relationships to work) and Threesms just to get cheated on in the end which even a blind man can sense miles away.
But like....when did he say he could change him....jk straight black mailed and abused....how could we not throw hate...
Girl I meant the readers, and I ain't putting all the blame on Dan but he did hold hope for him thinking he's changing when we all know he's not that kinda person especially right now. He really shouldn't have held hope when from the beginning it was a give and take situation and after knowing what kind of person jk is
Also I don't like him either but seriously can y'all chill with the hate. You started reading it for the plot and the author did a good job by making an asshole character truly hated. And y'all know the genre, I don't understand why people still read it if they don't want to see the development of a characters and overall story
I wanna see development, but I also want him to get punished and for them to go their separate ways (〜￣△￣)〜
As much as i also hate Tae Joo, you cant deny that waiting for someone for 5 years not knowing if they are still alive or dead is devastating, so we cant blame him for finding comfort on someone else after all that. I also hated the fact that everything moved too quickly when they know that Yoons life has been practically idle since the incident and is just starting back up again. Hope they'll find happiness in the end.
omg me and yeonwu both have sensitive left nipples HAHAHAHHAHA nipple besties
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Excuse me.... What?
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As much as i felt bad for him, THIS!!! THIS IS MAH KINK! I finally found a yaoi i resonate so much with on a kink level XD
Did no one here understand what the former princess story as well as inner monologue was trying to portray? She's someone who's lost a person very dear to hear what makes it worse is the husband did it for them, which in most cases actually leads to overwhelming guilt. And with her husband gone the only thing she has of him and the only thing she can do to "atone for killing him" is to make sure their
child lives. No wonder she's letting her emotion take over. Just as some parents would, no matter how good a person is, if they're even the slightest reason your child would be in danger, of course you'd feel strongly about them even if it's nonsense. We as humans find things to blame to alleviate our own guilt.
It's obvious she's not a bad person but people out here making it out like she's 3 steps away from being trashta and it's like, do none of you understand what's being hand fed to you?
Her own trauma is no excuse for her tyranny.
I may have a greed with you but now she’s bringing in execution. She’s lost her right to a pity party
Speaking FACTS
None of it is for the sake of her child, it's literally just for her to feel better. I also don't subscribe to the idea of "Mothers (and by extension women) are inherently irrational and illogical".
Imagine getting a kid expelled from school because it sat next to your son when he had an allergic reaction. There's nothing understandable about that
Great point. It's not empathy or compassion or motherly love but a kind of narcissistic squeamishness.
i was with you until the Rashta comment. Let's not compare a literal slave to a Princess who has been cuddled her whole life
Nah Trashta was evil too. A sad past doesn't excuse present evil.
I'm sorry but what?? She was a slave who was pushed to extreme circumstances and was manipulated by nobles around her, an uneducated SLAVE who was not at fault for her situation?? Were we reading the same manhwa??
Yes. The difference is you think people can cause as much harm to anyone around them, including destabilizing a country, because they had bad circumstances and were corrupted by them, while I say you have to take responsibility for your life regardless of circumstances and that means responsibility for the harm you cause.
There were countless ways she could have handled her situation that didn't involve greed and psychopathy. She chose not to take those routes. That's on her.
You expect an uneducated person to be held responsible for destabilizing a country when Sovieshu is the emperor?? Rashta was a slave A LITERAL SLAVE BTW!! it isn't just some sad back stories, a slave who was owned by her owner before being bought by Sovieshu and then she was thrown into the world of politics when she couldn't even write her own name?? Are we deadass here?? Why are you hating on the slave who was manipulated by people around her?? It was just a bad decision overall by Sovieshu who bought her into the situation.. The only reason Navier had an issue with Rashta was because she was a slave.. reread your history books to understand why slavery is bad and hinder human's development.
So is Trashta a good person? Definitely not. Trashta is an evil person. It's not an excuse of her being uneducated to redeem her of not being an evil. Remember what she did to her maid? Or the countless suffering she inflict on the people who serve her? She always got a choice to become a better person but she didn't grab it. She got the sympathy of the highest man in the empire but she never use it to make the better of her.
I never said she was a good person. She was a person who was pushed to extreme circumstances and was pushed to power extremely fast, slave to empress in like a few months. She does not know how to wield her power properly, her actions are of her own but she literally become more paranoid and deceitful as the story continues. And everytime someone rises too quickly to power, they become abusive and her 'abusive tendency ' was just to show that Navier was such a 'good' person for the reader, of course they have to make Rasta a evil person, how else are we supposed to know that 'perfect' empress is better than the 'unruly' slave?
And your last sentence doesn't not make sense as Sovieshu continually dismiss Rashta's feeling making her place unstable, of course she is going to go crazy and start doing shit and she literally got manipulated by nobles around her who wants her to fall.. People's hatred for her does not make sense to me when Sovieshu is the one to blame bringing a Rashta and making her a concubine. Concubine were normalized in their time but Navier hated her because she was a slave. This story has a lot of classism underneath it, most people don't like to address it, Rashta was a person who was a victim of her circumstance. We were always meant to like Navier but hate on Rashta
When does Navier hated her? Did she bully her? It's Trashta inferiority complex that caused her to act against Navier. Lol Sovieshu dismiss her feelings? What do you want Sovieshu to put her in pedestal where she already receiving a lot of benefits just having a little bit of favor. Navier work her ass off in becoming an empress. Do you think she just become an empress because she got Sovieshu love? No she work her ass off but you just put all the blame in Sovieshu where it takes the two of of them for their downfall. Sovieshu with his pride and arrogance and Trashta with her inferiority complex and discontent and her cruelty to those who beneath her
Well good day to you! We've both different of opinion and I don't want to make it longer as it already be I'm gonna mute this comment.
Responsibility is not a zero sum game. If John hires Jack to kill Fred, both John and Jack are fully guilty of murder.
Likewise, Trashta had some awful circumstance, and Shitvestu was a terrible man, but absolutely none of that excuses her own evil actions and evil behavior. You are what you do. So if you do evil, you become evil. In fact, that's how it usually goes. Rarely are people born disposed to evil. It's usually circumstance after circumstance, a "series of yes" as Nefarious would have it. , that demonifies you.
Being a slave, former or otherwise, in no way absolves her of responsibility. It nuances it, but only so much that we may pity her as she receives her just punishment, instead of cheering for it. But the justice remains. Like a vampire's thrall. A series of seduced "yes"es got her there, but now, she is a thrall. And that is sad. And she must die.
You are acting like she was some adult with hard decisions she needed to make? She was a pregnant 17 year old slave who was bought by Sovieshu, you can't expect her to mature and wise all of sudden in few months after her marriage. The most life experience and education she had was that her face could be used and all she have to do is submit? And also she was age regressing through out the series.
You are just blaming Rashta for things she can't control, she was a terrible ruler because she was an uneducated person who was put into authority without much education. Then what happened to Sovieshu, he was the one who approved of her dumb ass decisions. We could blame Sovieshu the most but noooo we gotta blame the slave girl who manipulated everyone. Like what are we doing at this point? why do you even have so much hate for her? When Sovieshu, Navier and the ml(forgotten able ml) are canon slave owners/ don't care about slavery. If you want someone easy to blame, blame Rashta ofc
Again, responsibility is not a zero sum game. Shitvestu and his evil are his, Trashta is hers. She deserves pity, but unrepentant as she remained, she dug her own grave. There were countless opportunities to take to not end up the way she did. She chose not to take them.
Uh trashta may have been uneducated in the ways of the kingdom but she's not stupid. She made decisions that got people killed and then plays the victim card again and again. She had enough of a brain to get people on her side and use them.
Rashta is not a good person but she is not evil
Yes she is. Or at least, she became evil. Which was sad, tragic, and avoidable. But she became evil and died in a hell ultimately of her own making.