I was expecting her to work waaaaaaay harder...I am actually disappointed. Seeing them happy felt...weird.
It doesn’t surprise me the people close to them were able to see the love between them. Their relationship reminds me so very much of me and my girlfriend, and we couldn’t hide it even if we tried. Words cannot express how much I loved this T-T
Her pursuit of him rubs me wrong in every way...idk why people think it's less creepy when a woman acts this way but it's really not
I believe there is a world where she can be upset and justified, and people can also be disappointed in how she handled it. I will admit her immediate drop of the hat response was very jarring as a reader, considering how calm and mature she had handled the entire situation before this. It felt...odd. I understand her feeling betrayed and hurt, and wanting space, but is no one going to give him the benefit of the doubt? He has changed more than she has...idk. I know why she is upset, but I can't help but look at her reaction as one-dimensional in the space of the whole narrative.
you worded this so beautifully
She acted irrationally BECAUSE she was feeling hurt. She's literally been gaslighted by her ex-boyfriend before. Like, I also found her actions in this chapter frustrating, but it's anything but hard to understand. It's so easy to go "Chanu's so nice and sweet though :(" as a reader, but she is living it. And considering what she's been through it makes sense that she doesn't just trust him implicitly. The fact that he was super cagey and vague about his real feelings was put into (the wrong, but still) perspective by the whole bet thing.
Personally I agree she has every right to be upset, and my "defense" (if you will) of Chanu isn't necessarily that he is nice and should be forgiven. I believe consequences to his actions are integral for their growth as a couple. I just don't necessarily agree that the bursting out into tears and ending it all immediately felt right for this characters. Felt a little lazy as a writer, because I personally felt no satisfaction by her finding out and leaving him. I didn't feel like he got his comeuppance (I just felt he was completely ignored when he didn't deserve that) and she pulled a full coward out of no where. I just feel like there was a better way to write this, and is less of a direct critique on her and more the writing...but I digress lol
Also thank you for willing to have a conversation about this! I wasn't expecting such calm discussion from this thread but I appreciate it
That bit about comeuppance opened my eyes a bit. I totally get where you're coming from now. Personally I appreciate the low stakes drama that forces her to stand up for herself, because it's so clear that she'll forgive him and that he'll learn to take things a little less lightly.
I mainly read romance fantasy and BL, where the drama is so much worse and often gives me a headache, so I've been enjoying this little personal growth arc. But you've made me realise that it is a little... contrived? I don't think that's the right word though, because the set-up happened so long ago, and honestly it still feels like pretty grounded drama to me.
It's really nice to have a civil "agree to disagree moment" like this, thank you for your nice reply :)
Oot, but you guys made me smile :3
For me, Johee is only "cuter" or whatever because I can tell she has THOUGHT about her feelings and this girl and what is best. She is conscious of her mistakes and her flaws and of Unnie's feelings about it, but still has this sprinke of hope because she actually really likes Unnie. Just as Unnie thought, Johee must have changed just a little, and she did!! She wants to move on from her "childish past" as she said it, she has grown! I am actually pleasantly surprised it was done so well. I truly thought she'd stay the same and Unnie would end up with her anyway
Yeah I'm starting to like her now specially after that epic fail RS Hesoo had with the blonde unnie that we thought was good for her. I like how it's going now just get that annoying curly haired girl out of the way I fear she won't do any good and keep trying to ruin whatever Johee and Hesoo are gonna rebuild
Yes! She got humbled a little, but in a way that makes sense for a college girl who fumbled the bag. She is doing her best in her own way, but sadly the ex fuck buddy has the be the past looming over her shoulder...it can never be easy T-T
It makes me laugh a little when people call these characters "old guys" because the artist does not draw them that old looking! They look like tired 20-somethings
They look like they're in their 40s, because you don't usually look old in your 40s. The artist drew them perfectly
Not implying people in their 40s "look old", but they have more than just eyebags. I do not think they drew 40 year olds "perfectly", considering other authors add in slight crows feet or folds around the mouth to add distinction. The MC barely looked that much older than the "youngsters" he talked about, just more tired
You can do that, there are 40 year olds who have those. I'm saying it's also normal to not have those, especially in your early 40s. And they're not just eyebags they're also wrinkles, I have those.
I love crows feet so I don't disagree with you in principle, I just don't believe they needed to have more wrinkles to realistically pass for 41 or something
I can't tell you how refreshing it is that the uke asked to go slower and the seme not only listened but asked how it was, instead of the usual "I can't hold back" bull
I don't even care about the plot holes I care about how there's no romantic development at all
Poker Face season 2 featured a deli owner who only recognized customers by their orders because he couldn't remember or recognize anyone's faces and I remembered this manga! I'd never seen this issue anywhere and it was very interesting to see the small part it played in that episode. Just thought it was so cool!
there's another one i like, lemme find the name rq-
the blurry viewfinder!
I also don't like the MC because of how pushy he is, but idk when that became a crime...just not everyone's cup of tea. Sorry to that one person who got shit on for saying nothing wrong. Damn.
See, the difference between your comment and theirs is that you know it comes down to preferences, but their comments insisted that MC is egotistical when he's objectively not (because he doesn't look down on others and when his crush didn't like him back, he said he wasn't cool enough, not that his crush was wrong for not liking him).
I can see that, but if you read the replies on that person's comment, they were so much harsher than what they even said. "Egotistical" might not be the right word, but I can understand where they are coming from without claiming they are "jealous" or "never got attention like that" and the like. I don't believe that the use of the wrong word (intentionally or not) creates the reason to be nasty to someone for stating an opinion that isn't necessarily wrong (meaning this topic can be considered subjective and not objective the way you say)
That behavior is being painted this way by the author, but it can be very damaging in real life (as it has been for me), so the examples from the story don't speak to the truth that I or the other commenter feel about this character. In the end, they still did not deserve those replies
Ah, you're right that those comments are harsh. I didn't really read the replies because I'm not that interested in it. Tbh, I looked at that thread because I saw your comment haha.