dohwa and eunhyeok can’t be the only two remaining male population in south korea, bc if not eunhyeok, why does it have to be dohwa? In an ideal world, I say, black hair with the dead eyes should leave and move on, find a girl who he can actually communicate with. And the crafty blondie meets a woman who is actually suited with his career. They’re going to be in their 30s soon, i can’t believe they keep going around circles. Every single one of them frustrates me to no end. Lets wrap this up.
Girls and Gays! Suppose, there is an eunhyeok in your life, would you take him back? I know this is unrelated to all the discussions going on here but it just got me thinking. Realistically speaking, i don’t think a relationship would ever work out for me atleast. I try so hard to understand eunhyeok because i feel bad for him, he’s not in a good place mentally and seem to have lots of trauma but other than wishing the best for him or taking him to therapy, i feel like all those gone years without moving on would have exhuasted me and his actions afterwards trigger me to do worse things than what suae did. I think it would have been better if he, the moment he came back, reached out and explained where he is coming from even though suae may not have appreciated his reasons, without acting cold the way he did. I am so torn because i don’t feel much for dohwa either. This has been one of the hardest manhwa reads for me because i genuinely cannot relate to any single character. I can’t wait for it to end.
absolutely not. he'd better start a new life atp
and the birds on twitter will start writing think pieces about how raim is such a complex character or how eunhyuk is a misunderstood boy. I swear even when raim stole the girl’s ex, there were quite a few of her supporters on twt and tiktok talking about how she’s such an interesting character and that they understand where she comes from, such a baddie, and so on. Irl, girls like her aren’t interesting or fascinating at all. You either jump them or cut them out from your life. And that b1tch boy eunhyuk and his supporters are another culties. “you guys don’t understand him like i do” well ofc you do, u gurls love a nonchalant goodlooking guy with a sad backstory, gets into a relationship with them, and end up with more trauma than you could ask for, repeating again & again where did my sweet boy go, he was so sweet in the beginning!! Well he is died.
twitter is where all the readers with the lowest iq congregate lmao pay no mind to them they all have a major case of the "anti-main character" syndrome where they would call a bush "complex" cause they want to seem different lmao. This chapter proved that Trash-im is not complex like she herself doesn't know why she wants to torment the one person whos ever loved her (Suae)
you’re right and i don’t know how people find her interesting, she is simply infuriating to me. She is mentally ill and if i knew someone like her, i would have gotten physical. I need suae to lay some hands on her atleast once for all the shit she pulled.
f*cking grown ass man who can’t communicate. Idgaf about his sob story anymore because he is not the centre of the world. I hope he ends up with that BTH so they can be miserable together forever. He is genuinely everything i hate in a man. I also hate it when a man is their father’s son, like you have been in contact with a woman who did your girl dirty when you couldn’t even send a single text to the girl you ghosted. You feel guilty towards raim but not towards the woman you supposedly love? eat shit, haramzade. Meri lund choos le haramkhor you pmo
LUND CHOOS LMAOOO
I AM CACKLINGG
i genuinely cannot hate any characters ;; but every single time i imagine myself in the girl’s position, i get the ick. Imagine a man you genuinely liked ghosting you for like 10 years and coming back all nonchalant, and even if he had his reasons, the hurt you would have felt was real so even if she gets her closure, i don’t think the relationship would ever work out irl. so when i see eunhyeok, i genuinely can see he is not doing well and feel for him but i think a lot of his supporters and their arguments aren’t grounded in reality. Perhaps, they haven’t actually been in relationships outside of their para social world or so it seems. A lot of people read romance manhwas with happy endings in mind, but the most realistic outcome for this story would be none of them getting together in the end.
I partially agree with you. But this is fiction, so we don’t have to worry about the expectations of reality when reading it.
No, I hope she ends up with Dohwa. Because he is a yearner at heart & he would treat her better. However, idk if she is good for him tho :/
I disagree, I hope she ends up with Eunhyuk, because to me what matters most is how Suae actually feels with each person, not just how they treat her on paper. With Eunhyuk, Suae can be herself. She doesn't have to perform or people-please. When she set a boundary, telling him not to interfere with her relationships, he respected it. She's comfortable enough with him to be honest about what she needs, and he listens (putting the ghosting aside.) That's the foundation of a healthy relationship. With Dohwa, despite his genuine feelings, Suae is visibly uncomfortable. She's already rejected him, yet he continues pursuing her in ways that disregard her clear signals of discomfort. The result? Their relationship is now in a strained place where she feels guilt and pity toward him. She can’t relax around him anymore. How is that "treating her better" if she's constantly anxious and guilty in his presence? Also, being a yearner doesn't mean you deserve to "get the girl,” what matters is mutual feelings and genuine compatibility. Suae's feelings are consistently pointing toward Eunhyuk, even despite their complicated relationship at the moment. Her thinking of him during Dohwa's kiss, the symbolism throughout the story (red string of fate, the refusal of his shoes, the yellow umbrella), and the parallels to The Rose of Versailles all indicate who is the male lead and the direction the story is heading. And overall, I think Dohwa deserves someone who loves him wholeheartedly, not someone who's with him out of guilt. And Suae deserves to be with someone she can be comfortable and authentic with, not someone around whom she constantly feels pressured and uncomfortable. That person is Eunhyuk.
I was about to completely refute your claims but honestly you support it quite well but it somehow doesn’t seem to make feel less pity for Dohwa. Poor guy you know? I think that’s also why most people want them to end up together. So much they forget it’s a mutual thing like you pointed out. In the end I think I’ll end upset with the ending but I don’t think it’ll stop it from being a great story. I’d like to think maybe in another life Suae loved Dohwa and not Eunhyuk (hopefully we get a short ver. like that it would be cute).
i really hope author thinking that too.. They need to go separate ways for each other’s sake..
Idk.. for me she’s being all honest and tells straight was always her thing.. Imagine, she wasn’t set boundaries and acts all sad and uncomfortable.. That’s not her.. So i don’t think it’s just for Eun..
For Dohwa, i don’t get why people so upset.. He knows she’s available. what’s so wrong a guy trying to win his fav girl over?
As for Eunhyuk, i really couldn’t care less about him honestly…His sad reason can be anything, it’s already been predictable.. so..
I think we're reading completely different scenes. Suae is absolutely showing discomfort with Dohwa. During the kiss, she's thinking about Eunhyuk, not Dohwa, and afterwards she's clearly uneasy and feels bad and guilty about it. In the parking lot, her facial expression shows discomfort as he leans on her. In the car, she visibly pulls her hand away when he tries to touch her. You say being "sad and uncomfortable" isn't her, but actually, that's exactly who Suae is in difficult situations. She's been established as a people-pleaser who struggles to assert boundaries, something Eunhyuk has pointed out to her in the past. So no, she's not being her "honest and straightforward" self with Dohwa right now. She's going along with things even when she's uncomfortable because she doesn't want to hurt someone's feelings. The only person she does not do that with is Eunhyuk. The manwha is showing us through her body language, facial expressions and internal thoughts that she's not okay with the situation.
Respect your opinion, but “ The only person she doesn’t do that is Eun”.. Idk After all she’s been through because of him.. i just can’t imagine she going back to her.. But again.. in this cliche love triangle thing she will.. But irl..? No one will..
Yes it’s my opinion that Suae should end up with Eunhyuk, but Suae's discomfort with Dohwa isn't simply my opinion/interpretation; it's literally depicted in the panels in the instances I described. You can’t look at those moments and tell me that she’s comfortable. And Suae being a people-pleaser also isn't my opinion, it’s her established character trait we’ve known for a while... It’s also a reason why some people dislike her, they believe she has no backbone and can’t stand up for herself/be straightforward. It’s because she is scared to hurt others. And indeed, it’s true that when she’s with Eunhyuk, she is able to properly express herself and prioritize herself without caring for his feelings. This is not an opinion. You can dislike Eunhyuk or think he doesn't deserve her, I don’t really care. But saying Suae is "being honest and direct" with Dohwa when the panels literally show the opposite is just ignoring what’s on the pages in front of you. As for "no one would go back to him IRL,” maybe, maybe not. But we're discussing what's happening in a story, and what the story is showing us through symbolism, parallels, and Suae's actual reactions is pretty clear about where her feelings lie.
I see where you are coming from. But she only started being uncomfortable once Eun come back into her life. She is currently uncomfortable with both. She knows her heart still wants answers so she is spiraling around Eun but she also knows that bc deep down she is conflicted, she can not give her all to Dowha. Either way, whether she is comfortable or not. Eun isn't a very good boyfriend to her. He showed her once &he will show it her again. But Dowha has been faithful from the beginning. And yes, love is a two way street but that doesn't mean you stay with someone who isn't good to you JUST because you both love each other.
That's not quite accurate though. Suae was perfectly fine being physically close to Dohwa before, holding hands, casual touch, all of it, because she was comfortable with him as a friend. Her discomfort only started after he kissed her and she realized he has romantic feelings for her. It's not that Eunhyuk's return made her uncomfortable with Dohwa, it's that Dohwa's romantic pursuit has now changed their dynamic. And it's not about her being unable to "give her all" to Dohwa, the kiss made her realize she doesn't have romantic feelings for him at all. There's nothing to give because the feelings simply aren't there. As for Eunhyuk, I'd actually argue she's more comfortable with him, not less. If she were truly uncomfortable around him, she wouldn't be all blushy blushy, she wouldn't have kissed him, and she wouldn't be expressing her genuine feelings, even her anger, so openly. With Eunhyuk, she can be straightforward and prioritize her own feelings over worrying about his, which is exactly what he's encouraged her to do. For someone who struggles with people-pleasing, that’s a big step. With Dohwa, it's the opposite. She feels guilty that she can't return his feelings, so instead of being honest, she stays silent to avoid hurting him which is exactly what a people pleaser would do. Her facial expressions and body language show she's not comfortable. She’s managing his feelings at the expense of her own. Whether Eunhyuk will be a good boyfriend is a separate question, but conflating "loves him but he might hurt her again" with "doesn't love Dohwa at all" isn't the same thing. One is a risk, the other is a fundamental incompatibility. Also, I want to say that I'm not just giving my personal take on these characters, I'm also connecting the multiple parallels to The Rose of Versailles (TROV), which the author is heavily inspired by and has referenced throughout the story and if you use that story it’s easier to tell the direction this one is heading (if the author stays on course) If you're interested, I can explain more in depth.
I think people are terribly confused about Mincheol talking about how he was such a good guy and feeling pity for what happened to him. Well, i don’t! It is very obvious that he had a hero complex, something of that sort. He was always put on a pedestal in high school, the popular guy who was equally good in studies. Tall and goodlooking. You can totally picture what that does to a high school boy’s psyche. He probably felt infallible. And there comes the pretty poverty-stricken girl who is naive and abused, and saving her probably stroke his ego. He thought he could achieve anything but reality hit him hard and lost what he always had, which ofcourse turned him into this miserable person.
This is such a good take doe omg
and it’s even more obvious if you noticed how he actually don’t like the younger girl genuinely. She looks up to him and is dependent on him in a sense. She makes him feel superior. It satisfies his vain ego, which something he lost long ago. To her, he is not the debt stricken, useless bum. He is a mature guy whose ex-wife can’t get over. I don’t understand why i even got downvotes when he is not even that interesting of a character or a character that is hard to understand. There are so many men like him irl.
Yessss
spoke nothing but facts
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That’s why I can’t wait for his ass to get humbled and blindsided by Hae-soo being fine without him ( ՞ਊ ՞)