Well, looks nice and all but I only made it to chapter 10 because somehow it feels like there is something missing... Why is there no private time between the mcs? Are the sex scenes cut out? Feels so strange...
Trust me when I say this is a VERY spicy read. At the start it quite slow and the plot isn't easy to pick up, but once you get the ball rolling it's a much more e joyable read. First read may be confusing, but on the reread if you focus more on the plot n not on the smut, it's easier to pick up on :)
I get it, not everyone is so weak to this kind of trope as I am. But 100 pages of hate-rage against this story? Is this really necessary? If you don't like it, why do you waste your time? There are enough cute stories with nice clean black and white charas out there, as they seem so much in trend nowadays.
In general: Please, respect the work of authors! Making a Manga is not just about being good at drawing. Creating a story and telling it in a way people can understand and enjoy is really hard work! Everyone who gives it a try (even only writing) will soon realise and start respecting at least the effort.
In my opinion, at least up to chapter 100 Mangaka-san did a really good job creating a tough and steamy story. I myself had no problem following the reasoning of the characters at all. Also, it is not easy to create such a hateable character like Sora - many authors fail this trope because it is mentally hard to make your protagonists so badass or suffer so much.
In the second half of the story, I admit, it got a little bit more difficult to follow their trail of thoughts and some twists came out of nowhere. Stil, Mangaka-san put a lot of work into cleaning the emotional mess of the first half up and showing us the MCs strength, nice deep sidecharacters and Soras remorse. There was sufficient character development for my taste - though I admit that might be because I love this kind of story and my brain already subconciously hunts down every fleeting hint of romantical emotions.
I really think, this poor manga is so underrated, mainly because of one dark character or rather, because nowadays the audience tends to be more resentful than the MC. And plotless shit like "Window to Window" gets a rating of 9.2. It is so unfair.
All in all, to me, the worst about this story was the uploader. Okay, even only ripping it from some App where it already has been translatet IS quite some work, so a little bit of SCREAMING OUT YOUR F*CKING THOUGHTS ON EVERY CHAPTER IN A WAY READERS CAN HARDLY NOT READ IT is something illegal readers have to bear with. But WHY THE SHIT DO THEY HAVE TO SPOILER F*CKING 30 CHAPTERS AHEAD? Learn some basic manners! Please!
I agree with you about the fact that the Mangaka worked hard on it but there will always be people with a difference in opinion. The comments exit to give some type of feedback or express your thoughts and opinions on what you have read. There will always be both positive and negative comments. It might be true that people are wasting their time on reading something that they dont like but at the same time, once you’ve gotten too deep in, you can’t just get out and stop reading.
And also, i don’t think people are hating on it bc they don’t like this type of story, but bc it’s just not so well done in their opinion. (I dont speak for all). And most of all, the feelings aren’t romantic, it’s a mental illness or a coping mechanism called Stockholm syndrome. However, if you wish to picture it that way, then go ahead. And I do agree with you about the fact that, if the author was deliberately trying to make Sora into an extremely unlikable character, then they succeeded.
Also, the same way you’re telling other people to not read and waste their time on manga they don’t like, you should also not waste you’re time on reading the uploader’s comments if you don’t want to. At first, I didn’t read them either but later on when I wanted to, I did. It’s not so hard. And please don’t be so hateful in your comments, everyone has their own opinions that could always be argued upon.
One more thing, some uploaders are actually paying and buying the chapters and later on, sharing them with people who can’t afford it. So you should really be grateful for them. Not all of them are just “ripping it off some app”.
I have read so many hateful comments on this story… Well, respecting the disrespectful in this comment section feels as reasonable as tolerating racists.
Yeah, of course I tried not reading the uploaders comments - but they are written so big, it is difficult not to get a glimpse while the PC is still loading the next chapter. Hower you put it, spoiling readers is still a no go.
Not romantic, you say… I have been wondering for a while now, whether feelings developed under Stockholm Syndrome are not in the least comparable to “normal” love. I guess, only those in the situation can tell. At least it seems pretty much the real deal to them. I think, whether this kind of relationship has a chance for as much happiness and romance as “normal” couples, depends a lot on how it goes on. Sora and Taiyo worked more or less 100 chapters on that part.
In fiction I am not against some Stockholm and I can very well call that romantic as long as the oppressor develops a nice little Lima syndrome.
Actually, as a former redrawer for a scanlation group, I know what putting in effort means. Investing some money is not that much of a deal, if you want to read the story anyway. And just a slight reminder: Uploading commercially translated stuff is still plain illegal. She didn’t even give the author a chance to make some money, as she didn’t tell where readers can get the chapters. In this case it is not even easy finding the official app. So she did it for her own rotten fame and fun.
Actually, in some of the screenshots you can see where the uploader bought the chapters. And also, this IS an illegal website so I don’t know what you were expecting. If wanted to know where they bought it and want to support the author, then you can buy it on coolmic. A lot of uploaders also put a note at the saying that you can support the author by buying the manga too.
Oh shit, that’s bad. Well, maybe you can close your eyes while the pc is loading? Imao idk. Just trynna help. And I agree that spoiling is not good.
Yeah, I guess it’s pretty real to them but I mean the way they developed those feelings are not in the least a good way. But like you said, I guess only those in the situation would know.
But the thing is, (in my opinion) since taiyo and sora had a toxic and unhealthy relationship from the beginning, it would have made more sense if at the end, they still had the same type of relationship. Maybe not as toxic but yk? They both ended up with an unhealthy obsession with each other so I mean it’s just kinda weird that in the end they had the most healthiest relationships ever.
Also I’m a bit curious about our differences in opinions. Like what made you like this story more than most others did? I would like to know so maybe we could talk about it? Just trying to respect everyone’s opinions.
Okay so is no one going to talk about the poor magician, the very first demon king? Where is his happy end when EVERYONE else got one? This is totaly not fair!
Does anyone else here feel like the stories of this mangaka are realy beautifully drawn and with an interesting story and a very high potential but somehow realy hard to follow? Or is it maybe the translation? (Don't want to offend the scanlators, though, thank you for your hard work!) I always keep going because of the nice art but somehow it always leaves me unsatisfied in the end...
Maybe I'm just too stupid... ╥﹏╥
They are hard to follow in all languages so you're fine , personally i have no problem keeping up with it
I didn't understand many things so you are not the only one!
Can I ask you what you didn't understand, maybe I can help you out?
It is a bit twisted in any parts but you can guess it.
Thank you, I created a topic days before and someone answered me. Most of all I couldn't keep up with their dialogues so I didn't understand why they acted they way they did
Ahhhh! Ok.
As some of you have already realized chapter 33 has been cut quite thoroughly. I think it doesn't hurt the story too much but it is a shame for anyone to even consider to bare down this beautiful story and to deprive you all of this beautiful artstile, not to mention this handsome sexy time scene. So maybe you want to check that chapter out in the raws. I guess the censorship happened in other chapters, too, though I only checked randomly and did not find any other case where it was so severe. If anyone found more censored pages, maybe you can share them here... A good hint is always this flower pattern which is sometimes used to cover their bodies or big blurry panels. Oh, and it is not always only sexy scenes, in chapter 38 eg the last page is missing, I guess due to the blood that flows. In this case I think it is really stupid, as I did not really get whats going on on the next few pages until they talk about what has happened... only because he sliced her face a little, though he was really holding back this time. I mean, this is Igen we are talking about - Why choose this story for publishing when they can't deal with the behaviour of the Characters in the end?
Well, to make a long story short - check Chapters 33 and 43 and if you find any more content that got lost in the process of official publication please chare with all other fans out here!
Little update: they even dared to cut the last hot scene in the final chapter. I admit I was too lazy to check the final chapters as they did not change too much in several hot scenes later on but to even change the good bye chapter... what a world. You can check the raws here: sasaengworld.wordpress.com/2016/11/21/raw-to-take-an-enemys-heart-chap-64-final/
why are they cutting out sex scenes from a yaoi manga? makes no sense.
Can anyone here help me? I started reading this because I thought it might be a little like skip beat and it is not toooo bad... just that I can't stand this stupid and helpless and arogant main character! (Guess her strength is what I loved so much about Kyouko...) So, I`m at chapter 20 now. Can anyone tell me if her character development is so good that its worth reading on or will she always rely on that supernatural to-good-for-her Eros? I didnt like the girl from Akatsuki no Yona either at the beginning but her development was so good . I want to know whether it will be the same with this Lele...
I don`t have enough time at hand nowadays to read a long story for days just to realise after more than half that it wasnt worth the time... So please, help!
hm... okay thanks... then I will have a try.
Of you like strong female leads you can look this one's: (there is more in my profile)
Our Relationship Is...
Sorry I copied wrong text .here you go:
Kusuriya no Hitorigoto
Akatsuki no Yona
Devils line
Chouka Kou (history but so good)
Kanata Kara
Reimei no Arcana
SPY x FAMILY
Ohayou, Ibarahime ( so different and good story)
Kainushi wa Akuma
Majo To Kiketsu No Kishi
Koroshi Ai
Pellua Iyagi
Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami
Niehime to Kemono no Ou
Called Game
Kaichou da maid sama
Skip beat
Ou-sama Ni Sasagu Kusuriyubi
Sennen Meikyuu no Nana Ouji ( no female lead but so good story. Love it!)
Revenge of a Fierce Princess (webtoon)
My dear blood king (webtoon)
Keishichou Tokuhanka 007
1/2 prience
Taiyou No İe
Miss Not-So Sidekick (webtoon)
Madame petit
Light&shadow (webtoon)
Last game
Dengeki daisy
Faster than a kiss (cute one)
Taishou Otome Otogibanashi
The origin of love (webtoon)
Back to the highteen (webtoon)
Takane to Hana
Untouchable ( webtoon)
Namaikizakari ( So good!!)(#myteenageryears)
Absolute Witch
Love so life
Sabaku no harem
Love in the mask ( tradegy)
Our Relationship Is... (Webtoons)
Arte
Seijo no Maryoku wa Bannou desu
Tusubaki chou no lonely
Reminiscence adonis
Kamisama hajimemashita
Kawaii Hito (saitou Ken)
Dear only you don't know(webtoon)
Soredome sekai utsukushii
The Reason Why Raeliana Ended up at the Duke's Mansion(webtoon)
doctor Elise(webtoon)
From maid to mother
Who invited you?(webtoon)
Jishou Akuyaku Reijou na Konyakusha no Kansatsu Kiroku ( cute but not strong)
Orange marmelade (webtoon)
Kanojo Ni Naru Hi
Mademoiselle Butterfly
Pellua Iyagi
Tonari no Kaibutsu kun
L-Dk
Saving 80, 000 Gold Coins in the Different World for My Old Age
Hirunaka no ryuusei
Lady baby (webtoons) (cuteee)
Divine Doctor
What is wrong with secretary Kim?(webtoon)
The ghostly doctor(webtoon)
Black bird
Wolf guy (mature, +18)
Princess’s Happily-ever-after Marriage (webtoon)
Live or not (webtoon)
I love yoo ( webtoon)
My ID is Gangnam Beauty (webtoon)
Lovely again today (webtoon)
Peerless alchemistic (webtoon)
Little Black Book vs Blue Blood (webtoon)
Wow, this is a huge list you have there... Some of them I already read and liked, so seems like we have a similar taste. I will have a look at those I don't know yet, so thanks!
You are welcome (︶︿︶)＝凸
Owww so sorryyy I put wrong emojiii . So sorry I embarrassed a lot ⁄(⁄ ⁄·⁄ω⁄·⁄ ⁄)⁄
Wow I have read all this too
Thanks Mavilxxx. This is quite a list. Could you please name the 5 best of this list?
I love romance and female characters that will alway rise even when facing strong challenges. The more love tension, the better. I love "skip beat" and "Family Compo".
You are welcome :-) i do have a list and you can find more than 140 manga with strong female lead.
They are listed according to my liking so highly recommend to look like first 30.
And since you like skip beat style i think we have quite similar taste
Tx. I'll do that. For the moment I'm trying "Akuma To Love Song"
Some people said there was stuff missing here and posted a link but this link doesnt seem to work anymore... so are there still pages missing? And if yes, is there any other page out there that has it all? I don't want to be frustrated when Im totally in the story...
Hey folks, I know, someone already wrote that manga and anime are a little different, but still, can someone tell me in which chap the anime ends? Thank you very much!
The anime was more updated than this. This was pretty late, don't know if the translators drop it or just in a hiatus mode due to lack of staff or something else
Well the anime differed in events from the manhua. I would say around chapter 97. But like I said, the manhua is different. The whole place where duanmu xi got stabbed was completely different because in the anime, they didn’t hold the ceremony and therefore he got stabbed in the car instead. I personally enjoy the manhua over the anime because it is prettier but you do you.
It is my pleasure to anounce that Sweet Indulgent finally released one of the extras for this story on our website sweet-indulgent.blogspot.com.
We are really sorry for the long wait, we are really running low on staff. What we are most in need of are cleaners, korean/japanese and at least one chinese translator, typesetters would be cool... so yeah, basically we need everything. But: NO EXPERIENCE NEEDED! If you want to join we can explain everything you need to know. Even if you dont want to join, maybe you want to visit us on our Discord Channel and cheer us on? We are looking forward to see you!
Thanks for the hard work! Please, please keep going on.
Thank you so much for all your hard work!! And i am sorry i am not one of these guys you were looking for. I'll definitely cheer on you but maybe later since I'm currebtly going to work hahaa
The Anime totaly got me and I was shocked to realise that not only it is not a finished story but also that there has not been a second season so far.
So I'm thinking about reading the manga. But - is it worth the read? Meaning: Was the anime close enough that I can start where it endet (where would that be?) and if I do, will it be fulfilling or will I just end up at the next cliffhanger in Chap 94? I usually only read finished mangas so could anybody here tell me what they think how far this story is from the end and if it is worth the read? THX in advance!
Tbh the story is kinda all over the place, but you can totally start from where the anime closes. I did that and I had no problems. Overall the anime is pretty loyal to the original. As for cliffhangers rn you're safe