mochisuki~'s Topics (8)

Almost choked on your comment laughingXD

Go for it! My hopes are all on this train. Damn.

Where was your comment hiding girl ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ your comment gave me hope and optimismლ(´ڡ`ლ)

I know, but its too late, thst boy is too mentally fucked up, he tried to help him early on, it won't work now, he wants to have sex with his bro, then hes yelling no, fucked up...but its a really good story

Are you seriously serious there ?! Haruki. Does. Not. Want. To. Have. Sex. With. Hikaru. This is written in every chapters ! The fact that his body is reacting during the rapes - a natural reaction - does not mean he wants to do it. This is so simple to understand !
Moreover, yes, Hanabusa tried to help him but he left as soon as he learnt the truth. When I read your comment I have the feeling you think that Haruki rejected Hanabusa's help and that it's his fault if he's alone now...
But I agree with you on the fact that this story is really good.

Yes he did, in the last chapter he offered himself to his bro before he left for school becuz he figured he could no loger have his senpai, then he started sayin no, I'm not talking about all the times he was raped

I'm sorry, that was the chap befour

Haruki did not offer himself because he can't have Hanabusa. He's given up on fighting Hikaru but he still does not like having sex. All his prior efforts to fight or convince Hikaru have been to no avail so he's feeling powerless. Rather than aggressively fighting back he's giving Hikaru what he wants. He's thinking what's the point in fighting anymore if he's just going to lose anyways. He's not really even thinking about the sex much while it happens. Haruki compared it to when he was slicing the apple and cut his hand.

Giving up, gave in, he still asked his bro if he wanted to continue from the other day, same thing.. and thats that

Well there's a difference between giving up and wanting it.

That's true, but haruki initiated it so....but it doesn't really matter, becuz his bro had raped him over and over, and blackmailed him. Which is wrong

I think what you're really trying to say is that Haruki is mentally weak. Yes, I just summarize the whole paragraph and yes, I agree.

You know what, fuck it. It seems so good and if I won't see the end of this then that's the suffering I have to pay for getting to read an amazing work.

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When was the video made? Was what they were doing consensual like the first few times or was it flat out (obvious) rape? Because it'll obviously made a difference to the mother depending on which it is

It was at the beginning. Haruki was giving Hikaru a blowjob so it does not look like rape at all ='( That's probably why Hikaru was blackmailing him with this video, it would have been strange to show their parents a proof that he is raping his step-brother. I don't think this will make the mother understand that her son is a rapist... (well, maybe Hikaru has several videos on his computer. In that case, there is still a chance to have at least one video showing that Haruki was forced to do it).

My biggest concern is victim blaming. Even if senpai found out. It obviously does excuse the younger brother's behavior, but the fact that the elder brother originally allowed it, some may argue that he "had it coming."

Or that he "led him on."

I was thinking the same when I re read the chapters .The first time when hikaru tried to molest haruki he wasn't actually sure what just happened and thought may be he misunderstood but I didn't get the blowjob part? Obviously he didn't liked it may be it was because he wanted to understand the problem haruki was facing so he went with the flow at that time .But in next chapter if there will be something like that where the video will show haruki giving him blow job.that will go against haruki or there will be some comments about how haruki is the one to blame to not shove hikaru off from the beginning

I think Haruki was a bit naive in the beginning but he did not expect it to go that far. He saw his brother was troubled and knowing he was the only one Hikaru was open with, he tried to help. Appeasing Hikaru sexually was not the best way to help but again he did not expect it to get that far. Haruki knew how sensitive Hikaru was and may have been slow to respond because he did not want to hurt him further. That probably is why he was less direct with how uncomfortable he was (while it was subtle, he did let Hikaru know he didn't like it even then though). If Haruki was aware that Hikaru would eventually start raping him, he may not have done what he did.

Ah thanku i was unable to fully understand the situation but I do now .And the more I read the chapters I got know how pathetic hikaru is he just behave like a psychopath damn he is scary actually very scary the way he blackmailed haruki and and treated him gives me chill maybe some people will say that he didn't know what he was doing but the way he react he know everything what he is doing he just don't give a shit about it . Just like he said about the things to shut his heart so he don't have to feel guilty anymore

Yeah. Hikaru is fully aware that Haruki is not okay with him raping him. If he was under the impression Haruki was fine with it he wouldn't have blackmailed him and he wouldn't have continued raping him after seeing the damage it's causing. He's very selfish and fears Haruki leaving him more than anything. So as long as raping him keeps Haruki focused on him, even if it is out of hate, he'll keep doing it.

The source of Hikaru's guilt in chapter 2 still confuses me. I made a topic about it here http://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/1637963/ But if nothing else his guilt there shows he is aware that he does can cause other people harm. I guess since closing off his heart, he no longer feels guilty for that harm other people endure because of him, even if it is Haruki.

Yeah actually. I was re reading this manga today we don't have full explanation for hikaru's guilt actually we don't know about his past much except for the fact that he was harassed by the women and he is disgusted by them . He wasn't actually wanted to be friend with the guy who was his classmate and was going with the flow or was thinking of how the friendship work between two people so that's why he started to talk to him .The only thing that come to my mind is when his friend's girlfriend proposed him and saw his classmate he looked a bit upset .But only for that to shut his heart is that ok! Or maybe he it was his first time having some called as friend but that got ruined so he lost all the hope and thought no matter what he will do people will be hurt by his actions .Well we don't know the reason why he said that it wasn't given I guess

I didn't get the impression Hikaru considered Nojima a friend and it's not like friendship was something he really desired. There's the possibility that he valued their relationship more than he was willing to admit, he did share his feelings about women with him after all, but if that were the case I feel like it could have emphasized it more. I think it's a small plot hole but from what we're given his failed "friendship" with Nojima was the only possible source of his unbearable guilt.

Yup that what I think too

It's not even just the blackmailing. Haruki is an abusive situation so his entire perspective is warped, his self-esteem close to nil, and poor senpai with his righteous anger just knocked him right out. I teared up when he gave his resignation letter. I really hope senpai goes after him!