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coochireal September 20, 2026 4:58 am

the water motif is super interesting in this story. i did a reread and whenever ideum starts to feel something towards jaeyi he becomes submerged in water. plus the whole jaeyi quitting swimming (related somehow to his brother) it’s so intriguing to me i can’t wait to see how it all plays out.

fundamentally ideum is a character that believes he isn’t able to love because he never experienced it, and now he’s being cared for by jaeyi and feeling things he hasn’t ever felt before (love? like? something more than lust?) and that’s displayed in the story by this recurring motif of water that shows up especially clearly in ch 19 (his dream)

jaeyi on the other hand has pushed aside his own desires so wholeheartedly that he sees himself as someone dispassionate and uninterested in anything around him, but he’s clearly really fascinated by ideum and has been from the start. also in the reread he’s kind of a pushover lmaoo he’s an asshole about it so ppl don’t notice but he lets people cross his boundaries and push him into things all the time. just thought i’d share my thoughts on the actual story bc i think it’s rlly compelling and well written :)

coochireal September 17, 2026 6:59 pm

convo in here is interesting but i’m having a hard time understanding wanting Perfectly Negotiated Consensual kinky sex in a smut manhwa that started with exhibitionism… i mean im sure some people want a manhwa where they negotiate a scene and come up w safewords etc but would that really serve the narrative? bc this is a Story about a relationship and not an instruction manual for safely navigating kinky play. keep yourselves safe from what you don’t enjoy! u dont have to read things that involve dubcon/cnc especially if u do it just to claim moral superiority to readers and the author. altho it does seem hard to avoid in the bl manhwa space interestingly. but in this case it’s been like that from chapter 1 y’all manage ur expectations maybe

    coochireal September 17, 2026 7:05 pm

    but also to ppl defending jaeyi dont say shit like “ideum wanted it bc he always does/said so when he woke up” bc that’s regressive to a lot of work sexual abuse survivors have done to combat victim blaming narratives and it’s no wonder speaking like that upsets ppl…

coochireal September 17, 2026 5:54 pm

i can feel the angst brewing it’s giving me goosebumps #yayyy also rlly interesting discourse here in the comments obvi u are allowed to be upset by somno u weren’t expecting but wow ppl have rlly different reactions to semes vs ukes doing perverted dub/noncon shit. like to be okay w (and even finding hot) what ideum did to start this whole relationship (even after jaeyi directly said to stop) but treating this chapter like you’ve been personally betrayed by the author is sooo curious to me. what makes the difference? where does consent lay? do u find it more morally reprehensible for jaeyi to do some nonnegotiated somno w a fuckbuddy he’s been consistently fucking crazystyle vs ideum exhibitionistly fucking himself to his neighbor’s window who told him to stop just so he can write looool like. let’s talk abt this cuz im curious rlly.

coochireal September 15, 2026 8:50 pm

yall “making the most of the night” by carly rae jepsen is actually so themmm its wildddd dawun chasing him downnnn im obsessed u cant pry this couple from my cold dead hands they are mineeee idc idc

coochireal September 15, 2026 8:39 pm

i never want this to end they are so freak4freak and sadist4masochist and they are everything to meeeeeeeeeee kissing the floor that authornim walks onnn

coochireal September 14, 2026 4:17 pm

yesss more angst more secrets being revealed you two barely know each other u have to learn to trust each other from the ground up

coochireal September 4, 2026 4:33 pm

i think it’s more realistic for ideum to realize his feelings first because he’s a really internal character (and a writer!! he’s constantly using his own experience and emotions to write!!) whereas we see jaeyi mainly from the perspective of other people. like his closest friend was already like hmm ur different w this guy but jaeyi seems very skilled at shutting down his emotions (like whatever’s going on with his brother and having quit both swimming and judo)

    GOJOSBIGFATCOCK September 4, 2026 4:42 pm

    Oooouu great observation

    Blup September 4, 2026 10:22 pm

    Can’t wait for jaeyi to sort out whatever he’s got bottled up so that he can make room for better things(ie. ideum’s love)

coochireal September 4, 2026 4:30 pm

angst is coming heheehehehee [rubs hands together maniacally]

coochireal September 2, 2026 12:28 am

dawun waxing poetic about topping jintae iktr yeahhh yup yup exactly

coochireal August 31, 2026 3:31 pm

i think the author is setting up jintae having his rut bc it’s been mentioned twice already omg i’m so excited to see what they have planned for thatttt

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