Asami-sama's Topics (24)

Very simply, Yamane can't answer you directly: "FeiLong hasn't really fallen in love with Asami, and Asami thinks that if FeiLong knows the truth he can't accept his love, and they don't even have the chance to be friends." Because this cartoon is to let you explore the hidden heart of Asami.
If you must let her have to answer, she can only deal with you in such a tactful way.

You can understand it as you wish, but the right to explain is in her.

Whether manga or novels, you only look at pornography, never pay attention to each character's inner thoughts, also do not pay attention to Yamane at the end of the article to explain.
Your wishful thinking that they have sex is bound to be together. Are you naive or stupid?

Whether it's AA in the manga or YF in the novel, they're not going to be together.

Get rid of the porn in your head and pay attention to why they have sex. Come on (づ￣ ³￣)づ

Stepleft, or Ladylight? Who are you this time?

Can't stand the peace in the page, Always comes to criticize the posters.

Whether it's AF in the manga or YF in the novel, they're ALSO not going to be together.

Get rid of the WASTE porn in your head and pay attention to Manag. Come on!

They can ship but the real ship will sail on the water like smooth waves AlovesA,

It seems that you are really stupid. We're obviously three different people.
I've made it clear that you still don't understand, and when the author can answer you directly, will you admit that you're stupid?

I didn't reply u, stupid.

Sorry, but i'm not just seeing their bond just "sex" cause i know Asami is truly in love with Aki, and Aki too.
Cause i read sensei's interview and their character development, if Asami just need a sex then it no has with Akihito. His feeling for Akihito is growing from just "sex toy" to be "someone he truly love"
I'm hurt cause you said i'm stupid and naive and just thinking about porn in my head. I'm reading this manga about 5 years and i understand myself what "Asami and Akihito's relationship" and that's not just for sex!
My english is poor but i hope you understand what i mean.

They are Fei's fans who want finder to AxF mc, just ignore them, dear.

Thanks ┗( T﹏T )┛

Well, I'm sorry, I really don't want to hurt you.
It should be said that everyone's understanding is slowly approaching the truth, but... It's like going into different fork roads, even though the destination is the same, but it's taking a completely different two roads.
One road is flat, the other is rugged. One road is fast, another is slow...

First of all, your basic feeling is right. The relationship between Asami and Akihito is not just sexual.

Time to sleep, Lightass!



With love, Stepleft

So true. Why would we care what AxF fans say, AxA fans stay winning. Bring the popcorn for the last chapter of this arc when we say bye bye to Fei. The meltdowns will be real if he dont get a lover.

Sorry I know you thought you sound all cool and cryptic but you just sound like a fool. It's a BL alright not a lecture in quantum physics. Your opinion =/= the truth.

Yaaa know that it's one of you. Stepleft and LadyFuckingLight.

And say goodbye to the action movie? Last chapters improved with Fei using a gun in it, don't forget that. The supposed love story would not have as many fans if it weren't for all the secondary charas in it.

There's no need to say sorry, I'm just here to give you more opportunities to show, let's show ourselves as a fool.

Let's not forget that Fei was outta the manga for a couple of years and only recently come back so it's not like Fei has kept the manga popular. This manga will always be an action manga, there's no shortage of other side characters anyway even when he exits.

At the time that comment was posted, I was sleeping though. My cat and my son can testify. ;)

No one ask for Witness. if it's not you then just ignore them why striking yourself without any reason. All know it's you who always come up with AxF.

No one believe you, LadyFuckingLight.

No one believe you, LadyLyingFuckiLight.

Fei sucks....his brother's dick! Ha ha ha ha ha!

YOUR MOM IS GHAYYY

It was obvious from the first panel, first chapter that this will be an AkihitoxAsami manga. There's no plot twist, they love eachother and they will grow old and grey togheter, can't believe people still doubt that. Stop feeding the trolls. For fantasy plot go read Ao3.

FeiFei is still bae tho ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

The style on this chapter personally reminds me a lot of Bleach. Empty background and full of action effects (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Really? Actually a don't read bleach lol

Let me "read the wind' for you. this chap takes place in Hong Kong, a few years after, the fated Toh incident sending Feilong to jail . This is drawn to show the 2 men in question namely Feilong and Asami fighting side by side in a if you excuse the gaming pun co-op manner as equals, sharing, the load. It does not show what there other men are doing for that reason, it is to highlight their combined effort. Feilong the ninja and Asami the tank having to merge their way of fighting with no healer(like Bleach would have, lol)she is showing Asami, a rather large man moving quickly and Fei the ninja having to work without his tools. It happened in the very place where years ago thier paths crossed with hatred Toh, Saving Takaba(the boat incident) . This battle mends those same lines.

You're not missing on much (￣∇￣")

Just like Finder, Bleach art fit it story, and Bleach set broke new ground for it's time.

I was talking about Bleach as a whole, wasn't talking about the art haha.

I agree with you. This chapter is not empty but full of readings, symbols, and returns to the past, but on a new basis. Feilong is not 20 years old and has no interest in Asami. Now there are two equal leaders.

^^.

Yeah! ^^

*sigh* It does feel like forever. I don't know where the home base of the translators is, but with all that's going on in the world they may not have gotten to it yet. I will be patient and enjoy the anticipation. In the meantime well have to find distractions like getting suggestions for models for Asami's ass. I nominate this model. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/31/b8/20/31b8209cd3a96f09aee33e5e2b811454--michael-stokes-photography-male-butt.jpg

Damn, just out of curiosity, any other candidates? Preferably nude

I'm hoping others will post their own choice of candidate. But if you like what you see look up Michael Stokes photography. He's done a lot of fantastic work. I had a hard time choosing and still like to consider the options.... This one would be a good model for Aki's butt. https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ea/1c/b0/ea1cb04cf6af32618cd5d90fbf6a1b95--michael-stokes-photography-male-models.jpg

Standing behind you in the queue with hopeful eyes.

Thanks a lot!!!!




If I were Aki I would have spat on Asami's face. Oo

The two killer is so strange that they are to kill or arrest people? Who are they going to catch?

He would never do that ever.

He has no reason to anyways. Overreaction.

She's always add kerosene in fire and pretend she's innocent and say nothing.

Yeah, but it's true. Asami is treating Aki like a little sister who doesn't have to come in the middle and becomes a burden. Aki is a 25 years old guy and his partner, so. Oo

So...you're not author of this manga, Yamane is. Let her decides how she want to portrait her manga story, maybe she has something store for future, you've no right to say such words regarding to Asami. If don't like the manga story then follow simple rule....stop reading it or keep your words to yourself.

Asami and Akihito together, Action with Asami and Fei fighting together, and a side of Kirishima and Suoh--

Itadakimasu ʕっ˘ڡ˘ςʔ

Lightoff?? Maybe the light off is a bulb inside your chicken head. Where is written no one can criticise the main character???

Oh get stuffed. This 'simple rule' you're speaking of doesn't exist. Maybe if VF was a cult and YA was the leader it would, but it isn't so people can critisize as they please.

It's the same throughout the manga. Asami's words has always been so harsh towards Akihito (and everyone basically) but his actions betray his own words. it's just his nature and one of his bad points imo. Hence why it causes a lot of misunderstanding between them. He says things like you have no such worth (as a lover) in the early naked truth chapters but then he risks life and limb to save Akihito. There's always a gentleness in his actions towards Akihito that he shows no other.

You are just trying hard to see what you want to see yet again.

I don't know, having read the translation I feel the whole thing didn't seem as harsh to me as people make it seem to be. He just cares a lot about both their safety and ask him to keep low profile for him. Of course Akihito gets shocked by the no contact agreement but it seriously doesn't please Asami either and Fei Long takes great pleasure in pointing that out.

Honestly, it's the sort of thing that can happen in any couple depending on your lifestyle. When me or my boyfriend need time to work on our portfolio to apply to other companies we ask the other to be understanding and for a while we do our own things without spending as much time together. ''You're distracting me'' might seem harsh to hear but it's a real thing and we have to work around it sometimes. I just moved city for a job after I lost mine and while none of us like it it means quite a few couple months that we are separated (on top of him having to work on his stuff, so even weekends won't work for a while).

It always give us quite a bit of a heartache but it's for better things to come. And really, you can't ask your partner to stagnate with you, you're both still individuals that make choices in order to advance in life. Asami here is legit trying to not get both of them killed, he has the right to ask him to not come along because he would be way too worried for him, thus distracted and wouldn't be able to do what he has to do properly.

Life happens, yes your partner can become a ''burden'' in certain circumstances, and here obviously the stakes are much higher than whatever is going on in my love life lol. I really don't see where Asami is that much in the wrong there. I'm no crime lord but I would do the same thing, especially since it doesn't seem like it's going to take years and it's more of a short-term thing (like up to half a year).

Asami: I can only take care of myself, save your ass yourself!
Two minutes later......
Asami: Wait, Feilong, don't go after them alone!!!

Also
Asami: Akihito, I can't take you along because you'll fuck up and need to be saved.

*Fei Long shows up and within two minutes of the bad guys busting down the doors, fucks up and needs to be saved*

Like everyone has their own expectations of a relationship, but I find his demand quite reasonable considering the seriousness of the situation. And I find that if you always try to never ever trigger your partner's insecurities no matter what that they can't grow up. This might just drive Akihito to grow up into a person that can prove to him that he can get involved in his business.

After seeing how far I've come, I would never ever want to have a partner that doesn't challenge my little safe bubble from time to time (not just for the heck of it, but when it's actually needed, obviously). Same with my job, losing it has objectively been one of the best things that happened to me, after having a major meltdown from it just drove me to bounce back even more and I'm no longer stuck worrying about jobs. I know that even if I get fired I'll find something else again and no longer depend on my job to be prideful. I also no longer literally depend on my boyfriend for my happiness. At a time I felt I lost everything I ended up getting so much more. I'm much more well-rounded and able to be independent without getting into a crying mess.

All in all, this all led me to believe in my own worth regardless of those things.

And I think it's good if the same kind of thing happens to Akihito. He seems to define his worth with Asami as his whole worth in life, which is an insecurity that yes is partly triggered by Asami's behavior but at the end of the day it's Akihito's problem. You can't just blame your emotional insecurity on your partner. You can't expect him to get hellbent on changing his whole behavior in order for you to feel perfectly secure and never trigger any of your own insecurities when it's you that have issues with how you view your own self-worth.

Depending on your partner to make you feel secure can only go so far.

Asami: Oh, Fei, this place is so tight!!
Feilong: I'm the best in body-to-body combat, Asami.
.......just kidding

WW2 -Japan, a bit after Pearl Harbor's attack.
Paleo-Asami: woman, come here, I need to tell you something
Paleo -Aki: what do you want, honorable husband?
Paleo-Asami: I'm joining the army, I'm going in war
Paleo-Aki: I don't want to stay here, leaving you alone in a dangerous place, let me come with you!
Paleo-Asami: woman, war is a thing for real and tough men. You would give me problems if you come with me. You have to stay here, take care of our house, our children, the farm, my parents and yours; just the usual soft stuff for you, weak ladies.
Paleo-Aki: I'll obey, honorable husband (even if 'the lady' is fuming inside and thinking: damn you, fucked up disonorable husband).
Paleo-Asami: don't make that face, I promise you I'll die with honor for our great country!
Paleo-Aki: Goodbye, husband. (Still fuming inside:Fuck, fuck, fuck, the fucking country!)

Being upset when your partner reinforces your self-esteem issues is different than depending on your partner to make you feel secure. A partner should be a partner who meets you halfway. I do think this arc is shaping up to have Aki assert his worth. It remains to be seen how Asami responds to that.

Dumbo, just to backfire me you just read my last words and picking up logic from it to fire me, don't you read my rest words what they're saying, It's yamane's manga not yours and she can do anything to her story as well as to her character. Nobody knows what is the future story.

since when you started to support Aki and speak in his favour, stepleft, ladylight.

Agreed. It seems like Asami felt that worrying over Akihitos safety would distract him in a critical moment, and that he needs all of his attention on the bad guys. Having an innocent (in that Aki is not part of the underworld) out of harms way reassures Asami and his men.

That is pretty harsh, Akihito knows that he is not a fighter (with guns) and would be in the line of fire.

I do believe it's the same. You shouldn't be depending on your partner to feel secure, and I also mean that in a way that if their actions somehow trigger your buried self-esteem issues you shouldn't let that reinforce them but use that opportunity to challenge them and realize that yes, you do have an issue that needs to be addressed.

And yes, of course they should meet halfway. Asami doesn't think Akihito needs to be fighting alongside him. Akihito is the one making a deal about it. Asami isn't straight out telling him ''you have no worth because you can't come with me'', nor does he believe that or have ever demanded him to do so. He never ever had the intention to make him feel that way.

Making him come and act like he won't be a burden as he is right now isn't reasonable. And Asami can't help but go and take care of the mess. He's worried about both and especially Akihito's safety, and for good reasons!

So if someone is in a position to meet halfway here it's Akihito. He either a)Grow to stop making his whole worth about that and let Asami do his work without having to be worried about him or b)Grow to become someone that can fight alongside him so he doesn't have to be just as worried.

Also maybe, just maybe Asami did intend to try help him achieve the latter by sending him to the monk guy?

And hasn't he already tried to meet halfway when he reluctantly let Akihito sniffing in the Sudou thing and crossed fingers that he wouldn't get hurt? He's never been totally closed to the idea of him helping his work. He's been trying himself to meet halfway, but as long as he feels it's reasonable.

So I really don't think he or anyone else ''should be upset at him reinforcing his self-esteem issues'' or anything like that. Asami legit did the best he could, now it's Akihito that needs to do his part to address how he feels about it, in a way that won't lead him or Asami to get killed.

I think you are right but that's what makes even more reckless because he knows he isn't a fighter and a killer either yet he wants to get involved .And he maybe smart but he doesn't understand how the underworld works ,which is way asami had to save him many times .But on the other hand asami never gave akihito the chance to be his equal and he is protecting him because he cares but at the same time he treats akihito as a possession not a lover .

I think because he lacks the ruthless factor as proven about how shocked he was after Hong kong he should stay away and if he wants to help asami help him from a far because as he is now he is a burden to asami .

With the whole Sudou thing I think he did give him a chance to work as his equal, no? I'm pretty sure he did!

It's just that yeah, at the end of the day this all ended up with Asami having to save him.

This may be nonsensical, but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9ymE2Rcxo

Or maybe not...

You are right but what did he do to prove himself ?Give another guy a blow job I think that shows how desperate he is for asami's approval which is even though I like aki kind of pathetic because he starting to lose sight of who he is .In the end he is trying to chew more than he can swallow .He isn't capable of dealing with this guys if he wants what's best for asami he should stay away ,because if he really wanna help he would have to embrace the abyss and that he can't do ,so he is kind of half assed ? Wants to help asami but does it the wrong way and i would really hate it if he goes dark side just for asami's sake I don't akihito 's character to be destroyed just for the sake of his relationship with asami ,i was already pretty disappointed when he sucked that guy so let's not have aki degrade himself further .

Self esteem is not given by others. He is not confident because reality makes him unable to be confident.

yawn, yawn, yawn, just wake up and going to sleep again.

That is just not in character - and kinda mean

You know, that just got me trying to pinpoint when his whole view of Asami shifted, and I think I found it. Kind of.

Before he used to be ashamed of his whole relationship with Asami, and his reflex was to get the fuck away from him. But like, in Pray in Abyss he started meeting people that were around Asami, and they pretty much made him feel like Asami was somehow above him, that he was someone he should aspire to not let down. He felt like Sudou and co. were all ''accomplished people'' and he started to compare himself to them etc.

And then Sudou, when he gave him the choice ''be Asami's pet or pursue his dream'', he went with his dream saying ''I answered that question a long time ago, it's just that I haven't had the courage to do it''.

...Wow did that go away fast. Asami just found him, fucked him good, and that was it. ''All my efforts were a waste, no matter what I do he's going to deny it blah blah''. He just gave up everything he stood for and now ever since he's been hellbent in trying the help the crime lord in his criminal activities.

And Asami was like ''Anyone who touches you, no matter who it is, I will erase them. Think carefully before you act''. And at that point everyone here on the board was like ''shit's going to go down when he founds out''. That their relationship was gong to take a dark turn.

Nothing of that has yet to happen. Instead they suddenly became a sweet as fuck couple.

The story has stopped making any sense to me from that point on, really. I guess he did say ''This ceased to be normal, my rationality has been razed to Asami's touch''. Man it sure did. And while I'm at it I'm not sure where Asami's personality has gone to either and why it did change so much. Like I don't know, I guess it's in the shower, he started to feel guilty about the way he treated Akihito, maybe...?

Feels like Yamane felt the need to sweeten their relationship as possible as she could and cheapening their characters was the way to do it. I don't know if it's just me but it doesn't feel believable.

Sigh, and I had stopped thinking about that stuff and just turned my brain off to forget all of this :P

I agree with all what you have said because as much as I like Akihito I can't help but think he is such a let down .Especially for the whole I pick my dream yet two minutes later he is back to being asami's bitch .It's like Akihito got into the asami's black hole and doesn't want to get out but want to go further in;I think he does see that and doesn't even have any shred of morality/remorse to stop before it's too late .

At first Asami got into akihito for his strong will/ guts but I don't see that anymore .The worst is that despite all of that he isn't fit to be in asami's world . I think what would've been more appealing if despite his growing feelings for asami he would never ever try to help him in activities ;I bet he wouldn't even bothered by the torture thing that's happening right now since he would say that's what he need to do .

I really hated how he started to compare himself to others or how jealous he got when he saw glasses guy call him by his name or when the other guy grabbed asami and was crying .He didn't start pathetic but I think after Hong kong he became that .

You are right we shouldn't think about it too much ^^

I can't open it - do you need facebook to do so? Thanx for posting anyway. Guess I just need to wait.

don't forget the redshirt.

But, not all red shirts die - pretty sure Scotty wore red and he lived through the whole series

Oh, my emoji didn't work Was redsirts and lunch

The new Dynamic duo, great idea! XD XD XD ^_~

Actually, Asami's character would make a lot of sense if you read the novel about his high school years when he met that detective. All in all, I've read everything you've written so far and enjoyed your way of thinking)) Thank you. I love it when people try to draw parallel lines with real life. Honestly speaking, I think that the development when they became sweeter is not the unnatural part. The very first sex they had is unnatural and doesn't really fit into the story because ever since their... second sex? it was obvious Asami cared about Akihito, and I suppose those feelings only got stronger with time. And I strongly recoomend you to read the novel, I thought it was really good as it was centered around Asami.

Yesterday it could be opened without signing in, today it seems you need to sign in your faceb account to see. Oo

Can you tell me in short what this novel tell us about Asami's character ?

Couple of problems here. First, I don't think you can characterize Aki's early feelings re: Asami as shame. Yes, his reflex was to "get the fuck out" but that was driven by denial of the feelings Asami had awakened in him, not shame. And he made his decision long before Sudou ever talked to him, before other people began pointing out that he was beneath Asami:

http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v06/c034/27/

But the manga must go on, and so complications were introduced with Sudou and Kuroda causing Aki to doubt himself and drive the current character arc. Personally, I thought it was ridiculous that Sudou was the one to deliver an ultimatum to Aki, as though this is the only choice that exists, when it clearly isn't. And remember that we are still in the middle of this particular arc, so it's early days yet to condemn Aki for his thoughts in volume 7. Yes, he made a decision in that moment. That doesn't mean it's carved in stone, and I think that's what is going to play out in the chapters to come, that Aki is going to carve out his own place in Asami's life.

It's easy to lose track of the passage of time in this arc because it's been published erratically over such a long period of time. So saying Asami and Aki have "suddenly become a sweet as fuck couple" is unfair because it sounds like they've been living this happy every after la la la life when really, the events from Aki being dragged back to the penthouse to them parting after the attack on the penthouse only cover a few days and their scenes alone, together are in reaction to dramatic, dangerous situations where the lives of both were threatened. It's only natural that they'd react with passion and tenderness towards each other, especially when Aki is beginning to develop a new understanding of the relationship. I don't think that's unrealistic at all.

And again, this arc is still in progress. There's a key in the revised scene from volume eight, the scene where Sudou has Aki tied up in the warehouse. In the original version, Aki has this big revelation about his place in Asami's life. In the published volume 8, that revelation is gone. And I think this is why:

That revelation ended Aki's character arc, not just for this story arc but for the manga in general. I think YA realized that and so she took out that scene and is building up for a new revelation. Everything from this new scene with Asami telling Aki he'll only get in the way to the scenes with Aki being trained by Hot Monk are leading up to a new resolution for Aki. The new key is in the scene training with Hot Monk where Aki can't hit the target and says he doesn't want to hurt anyone. That, I think, is where this arc is leading: pushing Aki to a point where he's going to have to choose between hurting/killing someone and saving Asami. And that will be a dark turn, indeed.

So I think it's early days to make judgments about what has or hasn't happened with the choices Aki has made. If Aki stays put at the monastery, mooning over Asami and making desperate calls to Fei, yeah, then you've got something. But you don't really think that's where this is going, do you?

I also want to go back to what you say about Asami in the shower because I think that's an absolutely brilliant moment and I read it completely differently than you. Again, I don't see this as guilt at all. I see something more complex. Take a look at that page:

http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/you_re_my_loveprize_in_viewfinder/mh/v07/c043/3/

Notice that Asami has turned off the shower yet he remains in the stall, head hanging, arms braced against the walls, unhappy. Asami is unhappy and very much not at peace. And it's not because he's ashamed. He's brooding because Aki had to be dragged back, because Aki said Asami would have to tie him up to keep him, and that's not what Asami wants. He wants Aki to want him, and fucking him into the mattress didn't make that any more clear for Asami.

His mood persists into the next scene with Kuroda (who has come to talk to him about Sudou--so here's Asami surrounded by people whose motives are always in question.) Kuroda even remarks on Asami's bad mood. That mood doesn't lift until Kuroda leaves and Aki reveals that he's jealous of Sudou and that gives Asami the assurance he needs. And I think that's where Asami changes and it's for a reasonable reason. That makes sense for me.

And I don't think Aki is "hell bent" on helping Asami. Again, I think this is a misperception of the amount of time that has passed. Aki offered to help Asami figure out who betrayed him. It's not like he's offering to become a full-time employee of Asami's criminal organization. This was just "I have connections. Maybe I can help you" in a crisis moment for Asami, just the day after Aki came back. And he hasn't had time to do more than that because it was just a couple of days and then whoosh, he was whisked off to a monastery.

Again, I think this is part of Aki's arc in this part of the story. How far over the line can he go? Again, echoed in the scenes with Hot Monk. This has always been the story, how far down the rabbit hole can Aki go before he's swallowed up for good? The story isn't over yet. Too early to make judgments on that particular point.

I will grant that the story doesn't always make sense. But I could follow it up until this flashback. This is where Asami's character is causing me trouble. He knows Aki's character (heck, he throws that in Fei's face in the current chapter) he purportedly loves Aki's fight-back nature, wants him this way. So I have much less trouble with them finally being openly tender with each other than Asami being all "Stand aside, little woman!"

Sorry, this is ridiculously long! But I basically just completely disagree with you. Ha!

Actually I wouldn't say most of their sex after the first one felt ''sweet'' you know. Just felt like each time he just forced oxytocin on Akihito and that's how he just fell for him haha. Maybe the one at the end of the Hong Kong arc (and now chapter 60) but that's about it. Now it just feels like ''brainwashing complete'' and really when Akihito wanted to get the fuck out he just felt some oxytocin withdrawal symptoms.

Like seriously, deep down Akihito knows he isn't right for him, but drug hormones made him addicted. When rationality leaves you it doesn't really mean you're purely in love.

I've been thinking, when we feel that oxytocin feeling, we tend to think, “I love you. I want to be with you forever.” because that's what culture has taught us it was. But the oxytocin state IS the emotion. We just need to rename it. “Wow, I’m feeling a lot of oxytocin in my body right now,” instead of, “You have to be with me forever!”. That would maybe save quite a few people that keep coming back in abusive relationships...

Now about Asami, well I can read mangas but not sure I'm ready to handle a light novel ╮(￣▽￣)╭. I guess there's summaries, but I feel like they would be missing quite a lot of details anyway.

I don't know, it's just a vague feeling that something is wrong with his personality, that something is missing. Might be just me really.

The denial of the feelings Asami had awakened in him, I can't help but think he was right to. Because I'm repeating myself, but the cuddle hormone really does wierd stuff to your brain. And he seems to describe that as the story unfolds. That's my issue with that. I'll never be able to see it as if Asami didn't get forcefully physical with him, that Akihito would have developed any kind of ''loving'' feeling for him.

But yeah, I've been thinking the way the development didn't always made too much sense might have something to do with how long releases take to be released. And yeah, I mostly remember the version here but indeed, the revelation he had has been changed and I forgot about that. I really need to reread the tankoubon, things really might feel like they fit more together.

Not going to address every one of your points, because I can't say much more but think they make sense and yeah a few times my words might not have been appropriate for what I really meant ^^. No need to be sorry, you make some good points and I'm just incredibly confused with the development of this manga as of right now :P

Like, this is what I mean:
We can think about women in abusive relationships. Notice how many of them never seem to be able to break up with the abusive partner. They may claim that they’re too “in love” to leave, but is that really the case? It’s more likely that they are too emotionally attached or dependent after past events to consider leaving. The bad part about oxytocin is that it doesn’t discriminate. It’s neutral. People in abusive relationships can release the same amount of oxytocin as people in healthy relationships. So if you’re in an abusive relationship, oxytocin is essentially betraying you because it doesn’t know any better. There’s a decent chance you’ll become too emotionally attached to the other person. Sex and cuddling can do that. But making you fall in love, not really in itself. Love is on a whole different emotional level, and takes time to develop.

Asami having to resort to employing redshirts perfectly illustrates the depth of his desperate situation.

*manages to maintain a straight face*

Do note that Fei's position is only temporary. It will eventually be replaced by Akihito :P

But if u think about it finder is not really that kind of manga where the body unites with the heart i mean even if you are in love or not that doesn't mean u won't do something with your body well i agree with many opinions that say if asami did not force himself on akihito in their first times he won't fall for him but things didn't work like this in the end i mean aki didn't seem to scared and weak after he get raped he reacted normally as nothing big happened , kinda the same with fei ( in the end he trust and feel comfortable with asami more ) but he didn't have any emotional feelings for fei althought he forced him many times too but with the time asami and aki feelings towards each other and the desire to protect and be together ect ... has developed too much and that's what we call love cuz after all if asami kept abusing aki or only having a sexual relation with him it won't change how he thought about him at first and it was clear that after everything he didn't want him as a toy or a slave he wanted him as his lover and knew that sex is not enough and for akihito he is doing all that to show that he deserves his place in asami's heart

Yeah, I guess it reached something that looks like love. Just in an immoral way. You don't just force yourself repeatedly on someone and say ''don't worry, you'll eventually love me, get addicted to my juices (and I'm quoting him there from Escape and love rofl) you can't escape it so don't fight it''.

Like, are the readers really buying into the "You're obviously getting off on it, so you must not be that upset" logic that Asami has? Like, Sakazaki used the same logic when he fondled him rofl.

No is no, even if you get turned on. If you get repeatedly assaulted by someone that turns you on, your brain is bound to get screwed over. And being attracted by someone doesn't make it a right for the other to try to force you until you finally give up and figure it would be easier if you accepted being with them. Don't give me that ''you're mine'' stuff.

About Fei, thing is, he was particularly cold and never really bothered to make Akihito feel good in any way. It's like, a normal hug feels good but if it's so strong that you get squeezed you can't breathe no bonding feeling is going to get triggered lol. He just plainly assaulted him twice in an extremely cold fashion, then made him suck his dick a couple times being just as cold about it, and THEN briefly forced himself in a somewhat more decent fashion on him, while Akihito was already thinking about Asami and how he missed him.

And ''missed him'' isn't quite it, more like he was desperate for someone to save him and comfort him, and Asami was the only real the real person he could hope to rely on for that. He recovered most his rationality after the island trip but Asami just couldn't leave him alone. ''This is a dangerous man that I should not be too close! Everytime, when he touches my body... Why am I...'' was his thoughts.

Like it's mostly the touch that screwed up Akihito (aka oxytocin). Nothing about Asami's personality was particularly endearing at that point. ''I love the way he touches me'' isn't love.

I don't agree with u cuz u are talking just like nothing makes them related but sex will i won't talk a lot but everyone knows that akihito does not think of asami as a sex master plus if u accept it or not he did show such a strong feelings of love ( not only wanting to rely on someone stronger cuz he's not that type of people who will give up easily ) he waited as a lover and asami came to him as a lover plus if it was only about " i love his touch " their relation won't really develop i mean after all those hong kong adventures they became closer and even started to live together and if akihito wanted only sex he won't just stuck on him only if he wants his money but he doesn't / and yeah about his thoughts i've never saw him thinking about his touch in every single chap he was thinking about their relation and his personality which made him fall for him ( the same for asami ) not his huge dick or money so it's love and if we get more futur chapters it will become clear to everybody

Sex makes you produce oxytocin. Oxytocin creates irrational bonding and attachment between people. This can be a good or a bad thing: here it's not, because he didn't want to be forced into being attached to the guy. He kept panicking by how it was taking all over his rationality, and that's a worry that I find legit.

I'm not saying he's rational enough to be with Asami just for the sex. No, he got attached to him because of what it did to his brain, but that he doesn't really fully understand. He just has the vague feeling that Asami ''makes him feel good'' despite him not wanting to. He didn't want to be in a relationship with him until he found himself not being able to quit it.

And actually I wasn't even talking about the sex, I was talking about any kind of touching, like him holding him, patting his head and stuff ^^'

Like put yourself in his shoes. You find a crime lord really attractive. However, you reject him because you don't want to go out with a criminal etc.

But because ''deep down'' you lust for him, is it right for him to force yourself on you and drag you into his world? He says ''stop denying it, you enjoy it''. And you do find hopelessly falling in love with him, at the cost of your moral compass, your safety and whatever may ensue.

Because yes, there's a cost, and nobody should force you into taking those ''for the sake of love''. If Akihito felt that it was better for him NOT to get into a relationship with a criminal, that ''does the sort of things I can never forgive'' despite whatever irrational feelings he had for him, he had every right to be left alone.

It is right to deny your feelings for a criminal. That's a legit reason.

So Aki will become Robin (or batgirl? Oo) and Fei will become... Catwoman? ^_^




Sexiest Catwoman ever!

I don't see any logic in your talking , it's just like he touched me and we fucked so i found myself wanting him (づ￣ ³￣)づ so does that means if i meet a guy and forced his way on me then he started to become nice i will want him ?? Of course not :3 for example if asami broke up with him or died and fei wanted to be with aki and started to become a gentleman ( without to forget what he did to him ) will akihito really fall for him ?? He might give his body but not his heart / u can find anyone who can make u feel good with his touch but not an anyone can make u fall in love , well i respect " science " but no one can understand the human feelings but god after all / and when it's about vf sensei really showed us a true love story ( not a pure one xD ) althought the coldness of asami and the doubts of aki towards their relationship

Thing is he didn't fully start to fall in love until he was forced to give in. Until it was ''easier that way'' after Asami kept to deny his rejections over and over (which is not something he appreciated, btw). At that point he saw that he was forced to either be constantly fighting his own conflicted feelings or just not thinking too much about it anymore and let hormones take over his head.

But if you want an anecdote, touching. It's less invasive than ''forcing yourself'' onto someone but has the same effects. If you get lightly touched, especially on some your erogenous zones, like the sides of your belly or your neck, and you quite like it, while obviously it's not infallible, there's a great chance you might develop feelings if he keeps doing that every once in a while over a period of time. You associate that person with those good feelings.

*Cough* I fell for that *Cough*. Plus him ''saving'' me when I forgot my money to buy food, which happened multiple times :L

But it was all mostly consentant stuff lol. I'm not sure if a guy you wasn't in love with at first and merely friends despite your intentions to keep it that way ever was that way toward you, but if someday it does and he's not bad looking you might see what I'm talking about haha. It's a tad messed up when I think about it.

''so does that means if i meet a guy and forced his way on me then he started to become nice i will want him ??'' ask that to Akihito :')

As u like ╮(￣▽￣)╭

:P but in any case you're right about it being in a way more of a ''real'' love story than an idealized and pure one. It's just that I really don't think Asami was justified in his behavior ''because Akihito was just in denial'' and people that try to say so send shivers up my spine.

how boring as ffcff you can be. you totally broke the balls of that poor tt person. for god's sake. (︶︿︶)＝凸 (︶︿︶)＝凸 (︶︿︶)＝凸

I swear I can't even understand a thing of that you just tried to say, please spell properly at least

Besides I'm not sure why you're even bothering, loving my attention?

I understood this is the flashback when they parted from each other, but I want to know about all the shooting there, I'm a bit concerned. (⊙…⊙ )

The shoot out comes after the flashback? is that it?

Yep.

thank u.

Ur welcome.

Omg this chapter is too much. ;_____; Sensei is the best with emotions I swear. So worth the wait. Now for late October :'D

Now that's the AxA stuff I signed up for (≧∀≦)

Asami is totally devouring his Akihito, look at his sexy face and closed eyes, and the way his long coat is sliding off his shoulder, God So much sexy! and Akihito, the cutest lil' kitten that has the power to do this to the crime lord.

So cute. Who doesn't miss them, in those who love them ? ^^

So it's just 1 day left for another chapter? Iiihhaaa!

Looks like a fantastic chapter! Glad to see a darker side of Asami's life....

Agree with you! ^^

Absolutely, Rommy, completely agree. I am so glad she put that in!

Yes agree! His dark side is so hot

I wonder what they are saying? Oo

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Thanks!^^

Seems Tao rushes in and have some news :)

Thanks a lot!!