SnowBunnyFujoshi's Topics (16)

SAME lol. with her reaction at the end of ch1, I am 100% sure she can't see faces well, maybe near sighted? not sure since im far sighted.

most japanese still dont/shouldnt like children still the lowest is sixteen I believe too and this kang sixteen the earlier chapters were fine it gave off some weird vibes but it was more like a childhood crush why did the author have to include a wet dream..?

They very recently changed it to 16 but it was 13 before. This manga was started at that time. I totally agree that adults shouldn't be attracted to children. It's incredibly disgusting. I'm just pointing out that not only are they both kids (despite the age gap), culture really should be considered. I'm sure there are things about western culture that's not overly taboo to us, but is to them. Take for example the TV show pretty little liars. That had a whole pedo relationship that ended in marriage in that show and the fact that the show went on for so many seasons means that most people weren't bothered by it. Which is shocking cause the guy was a grown ass adult having a sexual relationship with very underaged girls (I believe the first girl was 11 and he full on had sex with her) and it was romanticized. Verses this book where they are both minors and Yuu has made it clear he doesn't want that type of relationship with Tsubaki. To be honest, this is a pretty accurate depiction of what it's like to be at Tsubaki's age (10-11) and have a crush on someone older. If we're being honest we've all been there. And having wet dreams or fantasies aren't unusual in that situation. The main thing is that no one is acting on it and it's not Yuu having those dreams. I think people (not you specifically as you calmly shared your point of view and I really appreciate that XD ) just like being "outraged" to be outraged. Because they think it's the PC thing to do. At the end of the day it IS fiction, and it's also fiction depicting another culture. This book shouldn't even be available to us. We are all able to read it because someone decided to break the law for us and illegally translate it. So people can have their opinions and I honestly agree with you guys. I just don't think attacking the author is the thing to do here. Just move on.

I really do think the author could have gone about it a better way and at least depicted the child as the age of consent for the time they wrote it (in some places anyway) although I do understand you to some extent I personally warrant some critique

omg wait I wrote a lengthy response sharing my view and the website just got rid of it?? is it not available to me or

Oh no! The response I see from you stops at, "warrants some critique" was there more after that? If you feel up to it definitely feel free to retype it >.<

I really agree with you
If some people are having problem with this then don't bother to watch
Everyone perspective is different and if you not respect that then get outta here

You are just being part of the problem if you think ignore and pretend it doesn't exist is the way to handle things, the author wanted to tell a story, and it is actually very fun and relatable (at least to me) having a crush at such age, and how it should/could be a real love story in that situation, we can also see that obviously this wouldn't work in western society were people know and experience it at such a young age, why it worked BECAUSE they are them.
Know if you want to ignore kids have feelings, kids have wet dreams, kids will slowly become adults and this means slowly develop their sexuality, conscious or unconsciously, this is the natural way and a well educated kid will not suppress, feel ashamed or try to hurry it, they have the right to understand what is happening and why adults tell them to wait.
If your reason to "protect" kids is to preserve "the sacred purity" you don't think much different of a predator, kids are not "pure" or have some kind of religious divinity, or are "all good" beings kids are humans in development and we who already went through what they are experiencing have the duty to guide them so they have better opportunities, experiences and tools to do and be better adults (in that sense the most problematic of this comic is the common children and teens don't having the proper understanding of their development)

I had explained my comment in a much more in depth reply and this fucking website had deleted it and to be frank I dont wish to spend my energy on a bunch of pedo enabling losers

Hell no. Bro first of all saying that they're both minors is wrong. THE KIDS 10 AND THE DUDES 17!!!! Hes quite literally one year away from being an adult. And the kid being ten is not even close to the age of consent. And I'm honestly not trying to hate the author. Besides all that weird stuff that happens it's cute and I like reading about innocent love. And I completely understand the cultures and the different perspectives completely. And although I started this off rlly strong I don't mean any actual hate to u guys fyi. But honestly my first thought was that the fact that you guys been writing essays to excuse this is gross. But after rereading I don't think I should give u shitty treatment. I just believe that it's could've been shown in a less sexualized or weird way imo. And as for the example you showed, pretty little liars was made in 2010 while this was made in 2020. And as much as we like to pretend nothing bad happened the early 2000s was very problematic, pedophilia being one of them. And I'm not trying to excuse pretty little liars because honestly I didn't really watch it because I thought it was disgusting and gross. I'm just thinking that the early 2000s excused stuff like this but our time right now would never. And seeing as how this manga was posted in 2020. It just didn't make sense for you to compare two things that concerns pedophilia, one being from the early 2000s where everything's problematic and from the 2020s where we try to stop excusing these type of stuff. And again I'm not hating and I'm also not fully taking in the authors culture either. I just believed it might be easier if you provided an example where it was made in the same era so people including me can understand where you're coming from. And I understand that these are both pieces of fiction and I can easily just scroll away but just as you wanted to stay your opinion, as do I. Even though both are fiction I believe that either should not be excused especially pretty little liars for being extremely honest nasty and influencing young kids to thinking it's normal. And I'm not trying to fully hate I just believe that there could have been a better way for this author to show certain things. And again I see this as like harmless love but when the older kid starts like thinking about it and also kind of like falling for him when he is literally 17 and his friend is like influencing him into thinking it's okay it gets weird. I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

Also what are you on, honestly the og poster was much tamer then u. I'm trying to act nice n j as I finish replying I just read ur comment. U make absolute no sense. It sounds like a excuse just for you to read nasty ass stuff without feeling guilty or whatever idk. The fact that the person u replied to wasn't even saying anything wrong and u act like they're a problem??? Like what about you??? I'm not trying to be rude but seriously??? The fact that u can excuse pedophilia is disgusting, the fact that u try to make an argument stating how it's natural and we feeling discomfort and not excusing nasty behavior between a child and a teen who's a SENIOR IN HIGHSCHOOL and u still try to argue it is mad weird. And to compare it to basically being the same as a pedo is gross ASF and you do know that ur reply esp the ending makes YOU sound like a fucking pedo right???

I am always absolutely pissed to purity culture, cuz it's disgusting to me how people aways talk about kids, as I said is part of the problem, are you listing to yourself a kid having a first wet dream is something that bothers you, something "forbidden" is the same vibe to pedos, you can watch any documentary or interviews on pedos, and you see how much "purity" is a thing, how when a kid is a kid and shows they want to know or they are experiencing very common fisiological responses to their age pedos immediately jump to assume is okay to touch/fantasize cuz the kid is "not pure"
I saw that scene and thought it was fun, and embarrassing, and somehow you saw that scene and trough of something disgusting, this is what I mean by it
Wanting kids to have proper sex education and understand why it is too early sounds like a pedo to you? Or are you just bothered that this might "corrupt" kids?(cuz this is the argument of most of the people, whose community are full of child sexual abuse)
People are here attacking and making accusations about a content I like so I am explaining their arguments are funded in something other than "kids protection" (and explained the right way to go about it, but I think it is too hard to someone socialized in a pedophile society to think about kids and sex in the same subject without freak out, but again you do not protect anyone by letting them ignorant about it)
I will be the first to speak out when there is pedo content, like the many cases where one of the parts or both are young for the sake of fetishism but it is really disturbing how people are completely missing the point in this story, it wouldn't even make sense to age a 11 years old with 11 years old mind, but with so much infantilized main characters out there where these traits are put as attractive, I think what matters is as you guessed people don't feeling bad about it

And I like to understand and engage in debates of how society values works, I like to see these inconsistencies, and wonder in what lenses people are seeing things, author has a vision, the translator has another, mine is not neutral too, but it gets boring after I understand everything there is to understand about mine so please feel free to share more of yours, I can aways change my mind, but be aware that until now every frase you said I already heard or read before more than 3 times with no solid suport what means they are morals not thoughs of your own, and this is not just boring but sad and in a case so important as this revolting

the authors literally drawn the kid in a suggestive manner holding his leg up for yknow try again buddy

BRO LMAOOO U CANT JUST BE TALKING ABT PURITY N SHIT AND ACT LIKE UR A SAINT WHOSE NOT READING THIS CUZ OF PEDO SHIT BUT HAAVE A WHILE ASS LIST WHERE U HAVE A SHIT TON OF RAPEY YAOI THINGYS LMAOPP and the ratings too.... Girl wtf the paragraphs and paragraphs u made to protect this shit can literally be thrown out the window when we see ur profile HAHAHH and honestly I ain't reading allat I read the first few sentences and quit lollll ur so defensive

"B-but it's normal wdym

Omg it cut off my full reply I was saying "B-but it's normal wdym??? It's o-obv ok for a ten year old boy to do that.... U-ur just a pedo" omg

NO THATS EXACTLY HOW THEY SOUND I feel like im going insane how can someone be this stupid

IKRRRR I swear they try to act smart n shit like... ma'am we know ur in school maybe instead of focusing on defending pedo behaviors u should focus on school those grades are too low for u to act like this

All I’m hearing is it’s okay to sexualise children because it’s normal in some countries.

If you read any of the comments you would see why I like reading this kind of stuff, I don't even read sugarcoated stuff like this (and different sites I read different content, so of course in a site I read this kind of stuff will have more stuff in it) this is how I ended up here in first place(cuz any person who is not interested would have stoped in first chapter) I already said the author is wrong for all that fan-service and that it leaves all the story she is trying to tell in the trash can, this is not about "defending myself" is about lots of people here thinking they are better, attacking and acusing others saying the most disgusting things for the wrong reasons(it doesn't bother me you calling anyone a pedo, it bothers me how you view children) if you had attacked the author/readers first for these fanservice and this is what bothered you I would have agree, but as I said this is not where it comes from, people where not mad until the wet dream, while the kid was "innocent" doing all that poses and typical pedo shots I saw almost no complaint, when the other MC was younger I saw no complaints, when this was the most pedo stuff, but when MC didn't fit your fantasies suddenly everyone is mad and realized it is pedo stuff

We are talking about age consent, the relationship and story in itself not the sick fanservice (that is common japanese stuff in any of these sugary stories related or not to yaoi/age-gap/shounen-ai, I am one of the advocates that fanservice spoil any story, this is one of these cases)

See? in all that I writed what bothered you is that I "maculated" your vision of children, in all the range of things you could argue
like if these content should or not be showing in this kind of manga, why only in this kind of manga, argue about the age difference and levels of maturity, or even the proper age to experience and be taught this each thing but no what bother is who is the pedo and I say a wet dream at that age is normal

Yes again I already said this is what makes it pedo content NOT THE STORY, not a kid being in love, and surely not the situation, fanservice of kids is what makes it pedo, and this would be true no matter the story (as lots of shounen, romance
, isekai and most animes nowadays, they are not more or less pedo than this) and this story didn't suddenly became pedo because now black hair is reaching 18, because they kissed or because mc had a wet dream

And I never called you or anyone a pedo, I said your vision is the same as pedos, and that it harms real children I explained why, and also talked about the good points in this manga, and is fun that you accuse me of what you do
Of what you talked the low grades got me
(Please go on, I am training my English and distracting myself of the life of a public university student, I let to respond you this hour just not to die of anxiety until therapeutic 1 test.....and now I remembered it.....I AM GONNA DIEEEE)

Now it is serious I am begging you, when they say it's impossible to leave a public university sane they tell the truth, pedophilia would be haven, the teachers are crazy, the annual schedule is crazy the daily schedule too, the secretary is crazy, students enter crazy and we become even more, no one talks about anything besides grades, studing, suicide, tests, drugs, interneship, alcohol, teaches, our networking is based in our carrer, your family just asks about your career, the drugs you take have to improve your performance, my psychiatrist says panic attacks, suicide thought and forgetting things is normal (yes he graduated in a Public university) my thesis advisor is my favorite person, another girl killed herself and we talk about her grades, her study material, her drive archive, I need something else to think and fluffy stories about fist love won't do it, the comments section is way more interesting

the story and art are one the art depicts the story.. and its creepily trying to romanticize a sick real world problem

See this is how I know you don't fully read replies bc the main issue isn't the kid having these feelings bc it's normal. The issue is how they're represented I've read stories that showed the feelings of growing up and entering puberty and these authors show it in a completely normal way. But the difference between them and this author is how the author doesn't seem to have the intentions

Ok it got cut off so I'm continuing it here:
The author doesn't seem to have the intentions of making it a story about puberty and growing up. It's completely okay to write a story about puberty and like these things. So the problem isn't even about keeping children's purity. Like I have said in the first reply the only weird parts were when the author were depicting these feelings in a weird way and when the older child a 17 year old started also slightly romantically falling for him and thinking about a relationship with a child. And the fact that his friend is also urging him to reply and think about his feelings for a child is also weird. It feels as if the author is trying to push a romantic relationship between a 17 year old and a 10 year old. It doesn't matter if their both technically minors because one is close being an adult and one is far from that. So again it's not about wanting to keep a child's purity and making them clean from nasty thoughts but more so the relationship between the main characters. There are better ways the author could have done to have shown the child's feelings and him aging and growing up as he experiences puberty. And we're both not dumb we can tell how this manga is going to end. It's 100% not going to be about puberty and growing up and getting past that.

Omg I j realized that there were more comments but honestly I'm saying this rn idgaf about kids experiencing wet dreams it's whatever and maybe my wording was too weird so it was missed but the problem is the relationships between the two, more important the older kids feelings for the younger kid. Kids can have crushes so idrc abt how he feels about the high schooler but what made it creepy was how the older kid is feeling. That's all ok also idk abt others but I j saw this like on the same day I first replied and decided to read all the chapters. There were moments it got weird to me but I continued reading cuz I thought it was just me since I don't think I'm the best at reading the relationships and feelings between ppl either irl or in a story. And there were times where I've j been thinking in a story "ohhh I think the relationship is like this" and then later reading the comments in the end and realizing I'm dead wrong. So in a way i gave this story the benefit of the doubt bc I don't trust myself LMAOO but then I read the comments so I realized I was kinda in the right. I think my later replies made it feel as if the problem is the child having these dreams so I'm sorry abt that cuz that's not the problem at all

HAHA I can kinda get seeing stuff like this as a distraction but personally when I'm stressed I j read fluff bc it makes me feel as if life is great until I come back to reality I really hate fights and this is the first time i've ever commented but I'm surprised that I'm not anxious but commenting and replying does make me get all the hard shit out of my head so I kinda understand loll

Exacly is so good to get the things out of the head(I prefer real life terror than a terror I can't fight with, and I just give 5 star to save the manga and rate after if I feel like it) I understand where you come from, I was grossed out by some comments. People were pissed that 1mc was not "cute and innocent" anymore "if she was going to make him like that she should make him older already" and that the "fun was the innocence" (as if his age was older they could have more perverted stuff, or that they wanted the "clueless kid provoking" kind of content), it didn't please them anymore and as they couldn't pretend it was "innocent" NOW it was pedo stuff (like they liked to see kids clueless while doing provocative things but they were posing as "kids protector") your comments in special were saying kind the same (like really similar frases) I did realize you were repeating their opinions (my comments were only my vision about these opinions and how it didn't make sense)
I personally didn't see the older one replying the feelings, I saw more of a Virgin being hit on by a young person but yeah this is very pedo stuff still I always try to really believe and conect to the story, until now it is very believable to me (when I was 10/11 me and my friends were way less "innocent" than 1mc, and most of the girls crush were 2mc age, mine too, but I was the only one who knew the real reason why we were not ready, I saw fist hand how ignorance in the name of "protection" is harmful)
I already read a lot of stories like this were they end up not dating (one of these where the older one was telling the story latter on, it was one of my fav, and the whole story I was "no no no no no.....yes breath you are the older one") and for the pace and how the older one is replying to it I am still hoping that the kid will grow up and this will be the "seed" to the older not see him just as a brother (I will still give the benefit of the doubt to the author if they skip all the development as adults I will know she was just interested in show the pedo stuff, but as fanservice culture in fluffy stuff in Japan is strong, and there is a pressure to serve it, I will wait)
I always knew it was very fetishesed in the panels and design but to tel the truth it is way less than most new anime, it is okay level to me, it didn't really interfered in the experience of the story, and the comedy is funny without being nonsense( I usually don't like fluffy stuff cuz I can't make myself believe it and I end up frustrated with the characters stupidity)

'guys please dont be mad at the weird author sexualising a kid, the culture is different'

Just want to point out that the age of consent in Japan was updated a while back and it is now 16, not 13! For reference, most states in the US have an age of consent of 16 (search up age of consent by states map if you don't believe me). I'd also like to point out that just because something is legal, doesn't mean it's not pedophilia, but the culture is an important thing to remember before reading this comment.

*Comic
Not "comic" T^T

Omg I forgot all about this LMAO hi everyone so honestly idk what to rlly say but personally I don't like this manga cuz of the weird vibes so I've dropped this but like hiiii

Oh my god that explains the cringy vibe and the clichees haha. I still like it! It just gives off... 13yearold

Lol! Agreed. The storyline isn't bad,but I do agree that it has a lot of cringy/cliche moments XD Wattpad has a lot of gems but those sadly aren't the books that get attention so they're hard to find. So it's mainly books like this that make it out. Still, I'm always proud either way when an author makes it :3 but yes, it does give off teeny/pre teen vibes

I read it years ago too when I was like 12