She pisses me off. Watched her sister be beaten and treated like shit their whole lives and never even tried to comfort her once. Now she's talking about how Maxi never took interest in HER???? she never once gave a shit and now rossetta wants to get all cozy cause someone with power finally gives a damn about Maxi? Yea every part of this chapter rubbed me the wrong way
She’s worthless and self serving. Doesn’t even acknowledge the disparity between them and calls her pathetic although knowing the hell Maxi went through. I loathe her. (╬￣皿￣)凸 maxi risked her life to save people and the only thing the sister has done is look pretty. She doesn’t care about the war, she just wants to be royalty without anything touching her, she even admits to it right then and there.
I think it is understandable people are annoyed with her, at least. While she is also a victim of abuse, she does seem to weirdly give out the vibe that maxi is at least partially at fault for her misery. And the fact that she is kind of trying to define who had it worse of the two is also not great. But I could see a person in her position might maybe get more defensive about what they experienced because they might feel like people might diminish it when compared to what her sister experienced. Which is an understandable fear to have, I feel.
I myself do not like her but I think she is an interesting character and so is the relationship the two sisters have. Abuse victims don't have to be perfect victims and I think this is actually a pretty good depiction of that. Even if her sister is not necessarily meant to be likable, she is undeniably also a victim of abuse. I don't really want to get into "who had it worse" or something because that seems pointless in that situation because fact is, both were abused.
I think it's a nuanced situation and people are definitely going over board with the hatred for her. She is a complicated character and that is a good thing.
I think it is understandable people are annoyed with her, at least. While she is also a victim of abuse, she does seem to weirdly give out the vibe that maxi is at least partially at fault for her misery. And t... sortofsomething
:::: twitches ::: sorry...but as someone who has 9 sisters and being the only boy in the family and has gone through physical abuse by my grandfather. I do have a sister like mexli's that i cannot stand to look at, talk to, let alone want to think about. she got away scott free from the abuse. now given yes, 8 other sisters blocking the path and his target was mostly me. vs only 2 kids in the family with mexli. but when someone that is an abuser, they lock onto someone, unless they have a damn good reason to turn on someone else, they don't. The only time she would of gotten any abuse from the father, most likely verbal would of been after Mexli left. and being after Mexli left, means she's old enough to rebut him with something to make him think it's in his favor. and he can't physically abuse her because he needs her to be the wife of royalty. So, that is why everyone is hating on her.
Thank you. I don't see her as a villain at all. Interfering in any way would have brought her father's anger on her as well. She watched her sister get beaten and knew exactly what she needed to get tf away from. People expecting her to give Maxi a loving sisters treatement probably don't get that Rosetta lived pretty much her whole life in fear as well.
Thank you. I don't see her as a villain at all. Interfering in any way would have brought her father's anger on her as well. She watched her sister get beaten and knew exactly what she needed to get tf away fro... BlackCrow
I doubt people were expecting her to give her the sister treatment. Even if we assume she was physically beaten like Maxi, it doesn’t excuse the way she treat Maxi. Calling her useless and other such things is also abuse. Because this story is from Maxi’s perspective Rosetta is a villain who also abused her.
I am not saying she had to jump in the way of a swing or plead with her father not to hit Maxi; but the least she could have done was is not pile on to her. They beat Maxi down both physically and mentally then belittled her for failing to stand.
The father and sister are both villains in Maxi’s story for different but similar reasons.
:::: twitches ::: sorry...but as someone who has 9 sisters and being the only boy in the family and has gone through physical abuse by my grandfather. I do have a sister like mexli's that i cannot stand to look... Xander
I think you are very much projecting your own trauma here on a character. Most of what you wrote here is just you assuming what happened to her sister, without any of that actually being told in the story. Also did you even read my comment? I literally said I understand why people don't like her.
I think yall are angry with Rosetta because she doesn’t pity maxi. Her words might be harsh but her actions clearly shows she cares for her, she’s just not willing to babysit her. And she never said she was useless just that her decision to go back to the father that’s gonna absolutely beat the fuck out of you was stupid which I agree with. Like your husband may have sent you away but obviously which one is better staying at royal palace or going with your father? But maxi was so caught in self pity that she believed she deserved the punishment. I love maxi, I hope she realizes soon that she needs to be selfish and stop playing about herself cuz she has a lot of ppl on her side that are willing to protect her, she’s a freaking duchess, a mage, and riftan is literally crazy about her. At the end of the day she has to make that decision herself. And that’s also the mindset I think Rosetta has.
I think yall are angry with Rosetta because she doesn’t pity maxi. Her words might be harsh but her actions clearly shows she cares for her, she’s just not willing to babysit her. And she never said she was... Skythingx
The amount of hate Rosetta gets is overblown, but do not ever defend victim blaming. That is what you are doing. Rosetta is blaming maxi for being terrified of her abuser. do not defend that. That is actually disgusting.
I think you are very much projecting your own trauma here on a character. Most of what you wrote here is just you assuming what happened to her sister, without any of that actually being told in the story.Also ... sortofsomething
no, explaining that the sister didn't have a real reason to be scared since the father kept propping her up as the "good daughter" and wouldn't/couldn't target her for abuse because he had his target. it's how most abusers are. if they have their target they wont change it unless given a reason. it's "do as i say or i use...." since Mexli never gave her father a reason to use the sister as a target, the sister didn't have a reason to fear. Until Mexli left to be married. That was the only time she became his target. And it was most likely mental abuse because if he left marks on her, the Royal family would know.
The amount of hate Rosetta gets is overblown, but do not ever defend victim blaming. That is what you are doing. Rosetta is blaming maxi for being terrified of her abuser. do not defend that. That is actually d... sortofsomething
no, explaining that the sister didn't have a real reason to be scared since the father kept propping her up as the "good daughter" and wouldn't/couldn't target her for abuse because he had his target. it's how ... Xander
Abuse is not limited to physical things and even starting to try to find out who "had it worse" is counter productive and only makes victims of abuse like Rosetta feel like they shouldn't complain "because at least it's nothing physical" or "her sister had it worse." It is tantamount to victim blaming. "You shouldn't be complaining because xyz had it worse." That is that you are doing here. Also, this is a fantasy setting, where you can be instantly healed by a mage. You do not know if she was never harmed.
Like I said, you are clearly projecting because of what you yourself have experienced - you basically said as much with how you reasoned it with your own experience- and I think you should examine that. This is just a fictinional character, so it is not gonna have any negative effects on anyone most likely. But you could be, or may be at some point, be doing that to a real person and I really don't want that to happen.
Abuse is not limited to physical things and even starting to try to find out who "had it worse" is counter productive and only makes victims of abuse like Rosetta feel like they shouldn't complain "because at l... sortofsomething
and now who's protecting? you assume what others have and have not lived through or have and have not done in their lives. and just because it's fictional does not mean people can't get upset over it. if they didn't authors wouldn't keep selling books for people to read in the first place. books are meant to trigger feelings in people. not including educational books in this. those are whole different kettle of emotions on their own.
Calling the behavior of an abuse victim "self pity," for example. It is very judgemental language that does not help an abuse victim. It most likely only serves to make them feel worse for not being "strong enough."
and now who's protecting? you assume what others have and have not lived through or have and have not done in their lives. and just because it's fictional does not mean people can't get upset over it. if they d... Xander
You clearly do not want to reflect on how you react to Rosetta. There is no point in me arguing with you.
Why are yall treating Rosetta like the villain?
cuz the story is from Maxi's POV
She pisses me off. Watched her sister be beaten and treated like shit their whole lives and never even tried to comfort her once. Now she's talking about how Maxi never took interest in HER???? she never once gave a shit and now rossetta wants to get all cozy cause someone with power finally gives a damn about Maxi? Yea every part of this chapter rubbed me the wrong way
She’s worthless and self serving. Doesn’t even acknowledge the disparity between them and calls her pathetic although knowing the hell Maxi went through. I loathe her. (╬￣皿￣)凸 maxi risked her life to save people and the only thing the sister has done is look pretty. She doesn’t care about the war, she just wants to be royalty without anything touching her, she even admits to it right then and there.
I think it is understandable people are annoyed with her, at least. While she is also a victim of abuse, she does seem to weirdly give out the vibe that maxi is at least partially at fault for her misery. And the fact that she is kind of trying to define who had it worse of the two is also not great. But I could see a person in her position might maybe get more defensive about what they experienced because they might feel like people might diminish it when compared to what her sister experienced. Which is an understandable fear to have, I feel.
I myself do not like her but I think she is an interesting character and so is the relationship the two sisters have. Abuse victims don't have to be perfect victims and I think this is actually a pretty good depiction of that. Even if her sister is not necessarily meant to be likable, she is undeniably also a victim of abuse. I don't really want to get into "who had it worse" or something because that seems pointless in that situation because fact is, both were abused.
I think it's a nuanced situation and people are definitely going over board with the hatred for her. She is a complicated character and that is a good thing.
:::: twitches ::: sorry...but as someone who has 9 sisters and being the only boy in the family and has gone through physical abuse by my grandfather. I do have a sister like mexli's that i cannot stand to look at, talk to, let alone want to think about. she got away scott free from the abuse. now given yes, 8 other sisters blocking the path and his target was mostly me. vs only 2 kids in the family with mexli. but when someone that is an abuser, they lock onto someone, unless they have a damn good reason to turn on someone else, they don't. The only time she would of gotten any abuse from the father, most likely verbal would of been after Mexli left. and being after Mexli left, means she's old enough to rebut him with something to make him think it's in his favor. and he can't physically abuse her because he needs her to be the wife of royalty. So, that is why everyone is hating on her.
Thank you. I don't see her as a villain at all. Interfering in any way would have brought her father's anger on her as well. She watched her sister get beaten and knew exactly what she needed to get tf away from. People expecting her to give Maxi a loving sisters treatement probably don't get that Rosetta lived pretty much her whole life in fear as well.
I doubt people were expecting her to give her the sister treatment. Even if we assume she was physically beaten like Maxi, it doesn’t excuse the way she treat Maxi. Calling her useless and other such things is also abuse. Because this story is from Maxi’s perspective Rosetta is a villain who also abused her.
I am not saying she had to jump in the way of a swing or plead with her father not to hit Maxi; but the least she could have done was is not pile on to her. They beat Maxi down both physically and mentally then belittled her for failing to stand.
The father and sister are both villains in Maxi’s story for different but similar reasons.
I think you are very much projecting your own trauma here on a character. Most of what you wrote here is just you assuming what happened to her sister, without any of that actually being told in the story.
Also did you even read my comment? I literally said I understand why people don't like her.
I think yall are angry with Rosetta because she doesn’t pity maxi. Her words might be harsh but her actions clearly shows she cares for her, she’s just not willing to babysit her. And she never said she was useless just that her decision to go back to the father that’s gonna absolutely beat the fuck out of you was stupid which I agree with. Like your husband may have sent you away but obviously which one is better staying at royal palace or going with your father? But maxi was so caught in self pity that she believed she deserved the punishment. I love maxi, I hope she realizes soon that she needs to be selfish and stop playing about herself cuz she has a lot of ppl on her side that are willing to protect her, she’s a freaking duchess, a mage, and riftan is literally crazy about her. At the end of the day she has to make that decision herself. And that’s also the mindset I think Rosetta has.
The amount of hate Rosetta gets is overblown, but do not ever defend victim blaming. That is what you are doing. Rosetta is blaming maxi for being terrified of her abuser. do not defend that. That is actually disgusting.
no, explaining that the sister didn't have a real reason to be scared since the father kept propping her up as the "good daughter" and wouldn't/couldn't target her for abuse because he had his target. it's how most abusers are. if they have their target they wont change it unless given a reason. it's "do as i say or i use...." since Mexli never gave her father a reason to use the sister as a target, the sister didn't have a reason to fear. Until Mexli left to be married. That was the only time she became his target. And it was most likely mental abuse because if he left marks on her, the Royal family would know.
Not what I was getting at, at all.
It may not be what you were getting at but it was what you were doing.
Abuse is not limited to physical things and even starting to try to find out who "had it worse" is counter productive and only makes victims of abuse like Rosetta feel like they shouldn't complain "because at least it's nothing physical" or "her sister had it worse." It is tantamount to victim blaming. "You shouldn't be complaining because xyz had it worse." That is that you are doing here. Also, this is a fantasy setting, where you can be instantly healed by a mage. You do not know if she was never harmed.
Like I said, you are clearly projecting because of what you yourself have experienced - you basically said as much with how you reasoned it with your own experience- and I think you should examine that. This is just a fictinional character, so it is not gonna have any negative effects on anyone most likely. But you could be, or may be at some point, be doing that to a real person and I really don't want that to happen.
and now who's protecting? you assume what others have and have not lived through or have and have not done in their lives. and just because it's fictional does not mean people can't get upset over it. if they didn't authors wouldn't keep selling books for people to read in the first place. books are meant to trigger feelings in people. not including educational books in this. those are whole different kettle of emotions on their own.
Ok, please explain.
Calling the behavior of an abuse victim "self pity," for example. It is very judgemental language that does not help an abuse victim. It most likely only serves to make them feel worse for not being "strong enough."
You clearly do not want to reflect on how you react to Rosetta. There is no point in me arguing with you.
nope, and i never will, because as you so stated before it's a character! not a real person.