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And the another thing which I found weird was , where did the soul of original FL and that florall went?
Like what happened to them

Yea it's kinda inconsistent, it's like the other didn't think about that and just tried to brush past it just so the fl could have a bad ass back story or something like that. I mean don't get me wrong I really love it when the fl is strong and all but not if itso just therenough the kinda seems like they did it for the fans.

Every isekai is often like that. They'll tell you about the past about the hardships and trauma they went but after being isekai'ed/reincarnated, the author just kinda forgot about the past and pretends nothing ever happen except for the fact that he/she "have a past life". :')

It didn't seem like she was that traumatized about her situation in the first place. Looked more like she was mad. It seemed to me that her suicide is her revenge rather than her way out which makes sense as to why she's so ready to get her revenge as soon as the opportunity was given to her.
Rather than being depressed, it just seemed like she has a lot of pride and couldn't take that this other girl looked down on her but also thought of herself as a victim, which she is but you know.

It's not like her mental health is good, she is kinda crazy in her own way. I mean she doesn't seem like she mind dying/suffering as long as she can get her revenge.

Exactly. The hate with which she looked at Lee Sooyeon(i think that was her name, I'll just call her Lee from now on) was not similar to like the mentality you need to k.ys because of depression. She looked at Lee with SPITE. She wanted to traumatize Lee. Yeah, she was sick of the way she was treated but first and foremost she seemed sick of Lee. She wanted to make her remember her and she wanted to make her suffer. At the time she didn't have the means necessary to do it, but now that she does she can be more creative with her revenge.

MC wasn’t weak in her past life. Her personality still was strong and confident. You have to remember that fl bullied her for a long time, others also joined in. She was helpless then

* a little bit of a lengthy post I apologise lmao
It seems to me that Dahlia being depicted as smart/confident etc etc... is because she's in a position where she can actually rival her bully for once in comparison to her previous life (where she had everything taken away from her and had everyone turn against her). She has allies and is in a position of power (in legitimate status and in knowledge), being granted the ability to know the contents of the novel and the truth of both Dahlia and Florre being reincarnated.

Though, I wouldn't describe Dahlia as being mentally stable - we literally see her have what looks to be PTSD from being bullied by Florre in her previous life, which prompts her to lash out at Florre in anger before being told by the archduke that it isn't a good look for MC. + Her desire to get revenge isn't the healthiest in my opinion, but of course, is understandable - I think she said in the beginning to that her literal life purpose was to get revenge too??

But in terms of how she's responded to the trauma of committing suicide, people just respond to trauma differently - though this 'MC becomes a calculating and omnipotent being after facing trauma' is overused in these isekai/reincarnation stories, it's another form of response to trauma at the end of the day I think

That would be another boring love story

That would have been great buuuuttt I agree with @misty. That plot has now been overused by many manhwas that its becoming abit stale for my tastes(￣∇￣")

Now that I think about it you're right I guess I have a slight obsession with that kind of trope

And then her father's name is jeff???? Like this is a mess. Then they also have Korean phrases here and there like girl pick one and rOllie with it ugh

I feel like it's not Darjeeling maybe translation error

Wasn't the black haired boy's last name "Bergamot"? I think author was lazy and named the characters with tea names (ノ≧∇≦)ノ just like "miss not so sidekick"s original author.

He legit said he would kill the woman if she claims that she had kids with the emperor.

Yeah… after he was done dealing with a woman who lied by telling him it had happened between them. The way he phrased that was shitty, but the fact remains that he didn’t even end up killing that lying woman.

The fact that he knew fl was pregnant and he still said something like that totally scared me so i was wanting her to leave him and never come back

Actually I went back and his exact words were “If one did appear, they would be lying. And I’d make her pay for it.”

So assuming that means death is like the FL assuming every rumor about him to be true.

So you think this is acceptable just because there is not a word for death? She is pregnant, a mother, and she cannot take a chance of possibilty to harm her kids in any way. Her situation is not just about her, it's about her kids and his wordings, expressions ain't it. He should've go and comfort her, saying they will be fine, not only with 'dreams' but by action.

Nope, there’s no need to put words in my mouth, here. I’m not debating on what’s acceptable or not. And quite frankly, she didn’t just react out of fear or desire to protect the kids, she also decided to run because her feelings were hurt and she felt betrayed by the man she started having feelings for.

Honestly, I don’t really understand your arguments. It’d be one thing if you debated this without knowing his past, but you do know his past, so you should be aware of his character traits enough to know that he used dreams because he didn’t know of any other way to approach her. Or did you not realize that he had poor communication skills that he clearly needs to work on? Because there’s no way he’s the type of man who would’ve simply known to comfort her in the way you suggested.

I feel like some of you guys argue on the FL’s behalf. I don’t need that; I know where she’s coming from. I just don’t agree with some of her decisions, like vilifying him to their kids for example.

I obviously having this arguement on fl's behalf, since your comment was based on her actions. And his traumas should only concern him, not anyone else. He cannot behave all he wants, traumatise others and expect them to stay just because he has a bad past. He at least could've said that he knows she was pregnant.
Also again, she was scared for her and her kids life and yes she feelt betrayed too and that was on ml's again. I really think that only thing fl did right was running away. And for vilifying, she was a runaway, she did it to explain the situation they are in to the kids. I think she had to exagrate some things at certain point and i am not blaming her.

Exactly. I don’t get how people can keep on rationalizing ML’s words and actions because of his traumatic past or because “he said that after the incident with the lying woman”. The point is he knew MC was pregnant. SHE WAS PREGNANT AND HE KNEW. She was full of worries about the uncertainty of her situation and ML didn’t help ease her worries at all and instead kept on force feeding her and keeping her by his side without the real explanation. People who defend ML and bash MC are too biased and not truly trying to understand where MC is coming from. She has no idea what’s actually happening inside ML’s head. She wasn’t informed of ML’s past as well. She only knew him as a tyrant and certain words of actions of ML only strengthens that perception of MC towards ML. Stop defending ML because if your weren’t a reader and are actually the MC I bet most of you would run away as well in fear of you and your child’s life based on ML’s actions NOT THOUGHTS because nobody can read minds. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Hey, I said they were both annoying, I'm not trying to antagonize anyone it's just that I'm frustrated by their lack of communication and I believe both of them could've made better choices. ╮(￣▽￣)╭