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I forgot the name but I’ve read one with a saint being betrayed and like decades/centuries later comes back alive as a plant monster girl,

If you remember the name PLEASE lmk thats sounds cool too

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/plant_monster_girl_diary/
i think it's this one

Yea it’s this

Thank you! May you succeed in your future endeavors

honestly i completely understand how u feel.. i try to keep a nuanced view of her bc i know she suffered immensely as a child/young adult and she's changed and genuinely regrets everything, and because of that i can't say that i hate her. but u actually pointed out something i didn't even notice, which was that she doesn't actually spend much time with lyrica--in fact i think she spends way more time with the emperor (which i guess makes sense given the plot motive u mentioned and the fact that they're married and basically co-run the empire).

And she got burned on a stake. But I'm sure that does not count. The story has skipped years and the mother is definitely not simply soaking in a bath relaxing when she's not on screen/page.

Thank you for your respectful input and not coming after me I appreciate it

Her own childhood is why many are hesitant to hate her as well, which is understandable. That being said, everyone has a story and everyone has some sort of trauma. That does not mean you are justified in being a horrible person and parent. You are not responsible for what you went through, but you are responsible for how you let that shape you.

Ive know people who have gone through hell and back and have become the most amazing parents and people ever precisely BECAUSE they never want their families to know that kind of pain. And they show up for them every time no matter what.

So to summarize yes I understand wanting to give leniency bc of her past, but also shes a grown adult with a child who she should have taken responsibility for or at the very least allowed for the shoes shiner to adapt her to give her a better life

EXACTLY how are we forgetting this but its clearly fine since mom is getting railed by a hot guy and our precious Lily has money now which is all a child really needs

no i completely agree w everything u said here. i realize my reply was trying to find explanations for her behavior bc i didn't want to look at her one-sidedly, but no matter what explanations there are, none of them excuse her behavior. it's frustrating bc she COULD have this development if the narrative didn't treat her like she already did all she possibly could have to be a great mother...