I get anxiety waiting this, thinking about this, reading this. But also if I don’t because I NEED to know how it ends. Also? Where are the teachers? Do they not have a least one teacher who cares the he’s visibly abused like every other day
yaoi logic
I started this knowing he knew, but it was still satisfying when he dropped it. PEAK
How did we get 50+ chapters of turmoil in 8 . I feel like I was slapped in the face,
I’m so conflicted about this one… I’m a teacherXstudent HATER and rooted for the first guy. Yes, he was an a-hole but the teacher is like an a-hole deluxe. They’re kinda similar in the way they see each other as a tool of hatred/pain to be used against others. First guy was just dropped completely from the story and I honestly didn’t want the teacher to be the next love interest. At first I though it was a story about two musical students, but the story is really about a person’s soul and music. The tension was always there, but it did unfold better than I expected. The story has such deep and nuance emotions portrayed and the art is STUNNING. Hard to drop but also hard to get through. A bit disturbing but also realistic? Borderline grooming, but a fine line between hardcore mentorship and viewing MC as vessel for music/sound rather than as a person (which is less creepy in a bizarre way). I think they can both come out better if they work their way though this so I do want them to be together now. So much suffering left though (like the manager part) before they can be happy. I’m hoping for a happy ending. The sadist/wholesome puppy dynamic is a bit… completed. Binge read these 120+ chapters in one go.
The artstyle is so stunning and unique. Especially the expressions and emotions, like crying/tears. I’m gonna pretend the teacher is like 40 (I would like to think 30 but I think he looks older) and not 50/60 at worst. I’m not a fan of the much older troupe but the story and art is just too beautiful. It’s a colorful and expressive story without using actual coloring.
Prof is in his 40s
The uploaded commented about the professor being born around 1979 and Haram around 1999
Thank you! I must have missed it. It’s a bit hard to tell bc of the artstyle sometimes, especially in the beginning I though he looked really old but once you get immersed it gets easier to tell.
Thank you! I’m so glad he isn’t 50+
I reread it and prof was born in 1978 gr almost the same age as my mother
He's born in 1978 but currently it's 2020 in the story
How can something be so wholesome and heartbreaking at the same time
On what grounds are we basing the p*do claims? From what I see: MC gets appointed as a guard to a young prince (ML). ML doesn’t have anyone who supports him emotionally and MC becomes like a guiding figure who wishes ML could live a carefree life instead of the one he’s doomed to live because of his role as a future leader. MC’s role is to protect ML and his heart is moved by ML’s nature and they form a strong bond. Together they feel like they can live in their own world/bubble away from the heavy responsibilities. All MC wants is to be able to stay by MC’s side. He knows he’ll have to marry and that it will hurt them both, still he tries to come off as supporting to not add to ML’s pain. He’s in no way predatory/grooming.
There is a kissing scene, assumingly from the first time ML drank, where we don’t know how old ML was at the time. ML obviously has feelings for MC, which they both can’t act upon but in the moment MC gives in. ML forgets and it’s never brought up again. Followed by ML has to marry etc. MC faces said reality and copes with (trying to) sleep with others as ML fulfills his duties and takes a wife. Still, he wants to stay by MC’s side. MC is hurt and (after the incident) tells MC to never see him again. ML feels he’s doing it for both their sakes, in his own hurt and to accept reality, while MC wishes ML hadn’t met him because his path would’ve been less painful (the wife part). But MC fail to realize how much pain he’s helped ML deal pain with in other ways by being there (when he was young).
At a second chance, ML wishes for them to be able to be together while MC wishes for ML to live a painfree life (which he assumes is without him but he’s wrong, also what the forgotten promise is about). The process of MC ”falling in love” when ML was a kid is not immediately built on romantic love or anything sexual, it’s him investing his heart which eventually lead to feelings developing and when it does become romantic yearning ML is forced to marry someone else. Just my take. I really don’t see how there is p*dophelia at play. It’s a story filled with angst because fate was written for them in their first life to be doomed, they both probably felt that they would’ve been able to be together if it hadn’t been for their roles and that’s why it hurts. They were forced to give it up. MC wishes ML would’ve cried so he could’ve consoled him because he just wants to help MC bear the burdens he’s doomed to. He can’t cut him off because he loves him, staying by his side (even when he has the opportunity to leave) to the end but out of his view as ordered, so ML does it for him because he believed he was the one who felt the strongest (that MC already let go off what could’ve been) and therefore the most pain. Thus meeting their first fate. MC never confessed or played the ”let’s run off now” because when ML was a kid it was not his role and his feelings did not represent that, the type of love he felt then was to help easen ML’s worries, even when he was older he never felt he had the right to corner ML like that and when ML cut ties he got the ”answer” that it was impossible anyways.
MC lying down beside ML when ML was a kid was not based on romantic love but the idea of that ”how simple it could’ve been if it was just us”. That type of moment where if you could freeze time you could be happy, especially knowing all that was waiting between them was angst and ML’s even more stressed future where MC doubted that what he could offer would still be enough. ”My heart wants you to be happy, and for a future where I am by your side” is not just the equivalent of ”I want to be in a romantic (and sexual) relationship with you”. MC always cared for ML and wanted his happiness, it was when he realized that ML’s feelings were more like romantic love he began wanting that type for life for them, and not just himself or since the moment he met him when he was still a child.
I’ll defend this story because I love it. Unless I’ve missed important details I actually hate the PDF claims and feel that they’re too shallow and media illiterate for such a beautiful story. But I’m also reading this on mangago so I shouldn’t have too high expectations.
I love you for this
This story is such a complex mix of emotions, that it's really sad and disappointing that people call him pedo with such ease
You could totally feel that his (nanase) emotions and feelings were platonic at first and how they developed with the growth of them BOTH (nanase and leo)
Criminally short.. Also, the stripping was so random?? I though he was just going to change his shirt or sum. Then he took off his pants and just never put anything back on? Talking about how they were gonna watch a movie or something? Is this normal? Am I just dense?
Anyone else thrown off by the supposed ”epilogue” out of nowhere?
No, because when I saw that my phone was actually about to end up in the wall
I wanted to read the novel because this is so funny, but it only has 3.4 scorn on NU and tags with SA and r*pe. Can someone who’s read the novel confirm if MC/ML is directly involved/affected? It’s tages sl*very which I also don’t read, but in this case it’s more of a historical setting and not a main character being invoked and abused so it’s ”fine” (I know it sounds horrible to say ”fine” but I hope anyone gets it.)Or if this feels like a ”milder” version of the novel and therefor might stay that way.
Okay, so… yeah, the novel does get pretty toxic toward the end. There are some scenes where random side characters try to force themselves on the MC. And the ML — well, he also tries at one point, but as far as I remember it wasn’t successful. Both of them (especially the ML) were really mentally unstable because of everything going on, and the MC was tangled up in a lot of heavy situations that ML couldn't take it anymore.
The slavery tag is from a short arc where the MC saves slaves — it’s not about him being enslaved or abused in that way. As for abuse, that comes more from his family background, so it’s definitely present but in a different context.
Tone-wise, the novel is much more serious compared to the manhwa. The manhwa plays things up for comedy, but the novel leans into darker themes and heavier drama. Honestly, the adaptation changes so much that some of the spoilers I mentioned might not even make it into the manhwa. So yeah… don’t be tempted to read the novel just because the manhwa feels funny — the source material is way more intense
Okay! Thank you so much for your input! I’ll keep it to reading the manhwa only
Hmm now im kinda intrested in this "more serious" part. I can feel in my bones its not a masterpiece but some of the troupes in manhwa are totally my thing
Ok spoiler alert : The novel ending is so bad I wondered if it was written with AI. We're talking cliché plot points, arcs that made no sense and characters that vanishes from the story (like the prince he rescued from slavery ? We've already seen everything in the manwha, he doesn't do anything more in the novel before disappearing, his arc was never completed.), in the novel everything we're currently reading is absolutely pointless and a good story would have cut it out.
I'm reading the manwha hoping they go a different direction but I'm constantly thinking about dropping it because I can't enjoy it properly. So my advice would be : don't read the novel.
Oh my God it comleted entire bingo of bad novel okay thanks a lot i really appreaciate your passion for not reconmending this story. Now I Wonder how it got a manhwa adaptation... also i hope that story will go different way ahhh