This fries me so fucking bad Im looking at his name and “???” Manhwa? I know visually it’s with an N but my brain’s wired to go manhwa
Why is it a weird brother trope though it’s like whatever atp it’s so overused but it’s being done interestingly but also like “???” What type of fantasy is this, I can’t tell whether to cringe, go eugh, or laugh because it’s so fucking stupid
Love this author and their art but can we run it back a little
Im having to turn off my brain and that’s not even working
This is making me mad because it’s based off of being pure and the whole religion antic and it’s irritating that she’s going around saying “I forgive you” as if she didn’t have her cooch torn 3 chapters (mind you, barely a week or so has passed through the 17 chapters unless her getting fucked in a bird’s nest, ew btw, was more than 3 days and nights) and it’s just like.. “???” Bro can we MAKE people in stories not go through this like the plot is interesting and it’s cool, and all of the above story building, but why the fuck is it always like the savior syndrome facing a crisis commonly SA (bitch why don’t we do something new) where the mc is experiencing traumatic and it’s straight up really fucking scary, and a bunch of it is like “wtf do I do” and suddenly it’s like it disappears like bro……. I feel so bad but it makes me MAD and ANGRY like GIVE THIS DIVA SOME CHARACTER FUUUUCKCKFKCKCKCK
How to write story plot world building 101 but then we have an mc with 0 personality and it revolves around forgiving and/or romantically involved with bitches who fuck their ass up literally and nonliteral
Will NEVER understand this, just give good hot steamy consensual sex if you can’t make a character not fall in love with their offender if at all (please just keep it out) before some character development and 5 stages of grief + 250 stages of reformation, don’t give me that “GUFHEHH.. I DONT WANT IT.. THEY’RE FORCING THEMSELVES ON ME!!! but lowkey it feels good though..” like bitch what shut up, and this shit doesn’t only apply to this manhwa alone, it’s the entirety of a bunch of smut we can commonly look around for
Like fuck I wanted lala freaky riding consenting monsterfucker, not nonconsensual beast with that weird “i dont want it” ahegao, motherfucker
I like how I made a little joke for my comment but you put every frustration i genuinely have with this so perfectly. I wanted consensual so bad but I guess it is pretty consistent that women and bottoms are to be consumed; not have actual character arcs if sex of any kind is involved.
I agree lol it could have been hotter if she wasnt raped... Consent is HOT bruh
it's funny that you expected both plot and consent from a monsterfucker smut
╮(￣▽￣)╭To still have a proper plot is actually already fire
regarding consent, it's difficult to have consent while monster characters aren't even able to communicate properly.
you're probably should stay away from this kind of story unless stated that it's gonna be 100% consensual
This isn’t my expectation
My expectation is that it can be smut, nonconsensual, but not have a character basically be nothing besides enabling behavior
I don’t want to see a character crying and feeling like shit, hating on somebody that’s being forced upon them and feeling conflicted only for a chapter to even w panel later, they go “am I in love?” Like. Obviously this is a bit of a stretch but many do go this roundabout way
Like if you noticed, I complained about the lack of character development and the mc is only there to be preyed upon and then forgive that behavior, and go “oh my lord has sent me a divine message maybe..” like bro.
You can make someone conflicted, feel shame, want something, and be complex, not be two dimensional and be consistent in two things: lack a backbone and allow themselves to be put in a situation/get themselves into a situation and suddenly the story is “they live happily ever after” ??? If you don’t see the point, then idk what to tell you
I do want consensual, and I do want a lot of things that is so easy to get together, but I don’t mind a story lacking morals if it’s done right
You make a character with the only purpose of showing how bad the interest is and that they can’t do anything about it? Cool, make them interesting, not go heart eyed from getting SA’d because many certainly wouldn’t
Now if you say for example, this character loves noncon and experiences noncon from somebody, okay err, still iffy, but if they like it, that’s not on me to say besides criticizing the way it’s done since you have roleplay and consensual noncon as a thing, and if you want that fantasy, it can be done without all the “dark romance” shit label to excuse bad writing
waaait a minute but that's character development??
mc originally think it's a sin and she was so conflicted but she's too nice and realized that having sex with her gave relief to the monster who was in so much pain. so she changed her mind a bit. although that development is a bit too fast, but it is a development!
so that's probably why I dont understand what you expected....
Uhh what character development is this “ugh I hate this.. wait could it be that I like it?” to someone getting SA’d. You’d think conflict be hitting with that, but no, we straight up remove everything in 1 chapter (within two panels even), and go “yup I allow this to happen to me”
Mf what there’s a difference between getting coerced and having that Stockholm syndrome vs this where the mc’s brain is wired to having a random ass reaction that’s only positive to the other party (if anything) that doesn’t really align with her prior reactions and even views
Call me slow and stupid but that’s poor character writing with no development, that’s a character made to be two dimensional for a purpose
Most of the stories with this type of writing I’ve seen never grow past that, so what development is being served
it's just different kind of character development
just bc you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't.
Ah yes, stunted character development
The character will only show different shades of the same repeated behavior under the same umbrella, having a slightly different response
Mind you, the character will either A: stay the same
Or B: alter themselves in the middle out of nowhere! Example; enjoying a sweet romantic moment with a partner they’ve been with for quite a while now >> remembers partner is a homicidal killer despite knowing about it and being okay with it for 10-15+ or more chapters >> becomes erratic and starts making conflict via randomly driven plot
Another thing to add onto it is how they’ll consistently be used for what they’re designed for. This case, be bland and get objectified.
What character growth are we referring to with a two dimensional character that has NO personality, NO character, and only shows a set of traits that is repeatedly displayed despite going through events that could shift such behavior. That’s an NPC responding to a set of commands
I’m not sure if my words are making sense to you
MC lacks personality and is there for one thing: being ‘forgiving’ and being objectified with a dash of following lore
She’s not really growing much in any way besides a change in her perception in the way she’s treated
Why is it that we have filler MCs who don’t have anything else to show besides get taken advantage of or just completely take advantage of people (as an example and im going slightly off topic: read some slop about SSS+ Hidden Ex-Hunter or whatever) where they’re suddenly so mysterious, so edgy, they know everything, they take advantage of everybody, and they’re secretly begging a dumbass stick is shoved up their ass so they can pull theirs out like..
Like you make a story following that same exact format and just continue to powerscale it somehow, it’ll get old at chapter 100+ or something because it’s the same thing, no development whatsoever
Give me 100 chapters of something that has smut like this and supposedly plot but they jusy fuck every chapter in different areas and a random conflict that suddenly arises when one’s done and I guarantee you’ll get bored
I only get that you just want to complain
it's like you complaining getting taco when you go to a taco food stall (⌒▽⌒)
you can still complain why the taco stall didn't serve other food that sometimes sold in taco stall, but it's not my role to listen to your complain. i am not the writer ╮(￣▽￣)╭
although i understand where you're coming from but i am just a random person coming to get what served, so i'm not going to complain like you. maybe in another story maybe
I mean, it’s both a complaint and a critique
You can label it one or the other
I just want stories that execute something like plot, smut, morally ambiguous characters, and even this but make somebody important or vial to the story (as it revolves around them) have an actual character rather than a nothingburger near-npc character involved in the story
If you read what I said, which I doubt you did with this message, this is basically the summary of it
i read them but i just don't understand what do you want me to do?
want me to agree with you? but i never disagree. i originally just confused at our different perspective on what called character development... you go off tangent.
what you said is objectively a better story literature wise. there's nothing more to say. i still enjoyed the story for what it try to deliver it's okay story. i feel it's my fault for making you feel like you have to explain yourself when i already understood you the first time, i was just like making half a joke the whole time really my bad.
How the fuck do you run into this guy everywhere and he magically makes you a bad guy it’s so irritatingggg
Sex is hot and all but you just got punched like hello??? could never tell if it’s domestic abuse ptsd trauma or a kink atp
Its a kink it is mentioned in the manhwa the top has dominant/sadiatic tendencies and the bottom seemed like a sub.
You can make it a kink and not force it upon somebody
You think that was forced on him? Oh sweetie.
Very much so!
Let me give you an example rundown of something purely fictional.
Person A could love getting slapped in the ass so much and they’re really into it. The person in question they feel attraction for is person B who simply has not have a sense of what a boundary is and what’s appropriate, and finds person A repulsive.
Person B finds out that person A likes them. Person B isn’t in any type of relationship with person A and if anything, is antagonistic towards person A, and because person B felt like it, they, without consent, started slapping person A’s ass after bumping into them in a quiet alley because it’s what they think will put person A in their place via humiliation. Person A enjoys it but didn’t consent to person B’s actions.
Mind you, you can put this same ass context generally with the manhwa right now if it’s that difficult to understand, so here we go
mc likes some twunk and twunk is a homophobe
MC is mistaken for being a stalker pervert by said homophobe because MC is being stupid; manages to fumble, come across homophobe many times out of coincidence which enforces homophobe’s view, and it lowers homophobe’s moral guilt when it comes to doing horrible stuff towards MC because MC is perceived as a bad person
MC says some personal things to homophobe out of desperation and homophobe twunk takes it personal and starts beating MC up, but MC kinda has a thing for this. Homophobe twunk came at MC with the intent to harm/enact punishment towards MC for MC’s actions. It’s just that MC conveniently is enjoying and while conflicted about the treatment.
Consent Can Be Revoked at Any Time: Initiating or asking for sex does not grant irrevocable permission for any act. If a person changes their mind, withdraws consent, or objects at any point, all sexual and physical acts must stop immediately. This is a really simple concept, and you can pull this up at any time along with the next one.
Violence Is Not Implied Consent: Asking for sex is never consent to physical violence, blows, or rough treatment unless specific, negotiated boundaries were agreed upon beforehand. Even in consensual BDSM or kink contexts, clear boundaries and safewords are mandatory, and any activity must cease the instant a partner revokes consent.
It isn’t consensual at the moment, and what is asked is different from the treatment, therefore it is forced. Is that a hard concept?
Oh sweetie.
Girl bye
Hello you guys are FUCKING with a CHILD near
I really get icked out with this type of shit where we have a third party that’s not a consenting adult like it’s gonna be a turn on BYEE
Not only is this guy in a marriage, he’s lowkey ass can we burn him at the stake
Wtf one chapter later and this man is basically a predator PLEASE castrate him
Also wait where the fuck is the incest we’re talking about, this doesn’t even have “stepbro” gay porno fantasy in pornhub on it, why r some of these hoes putting their raunch into something that doesn’t have it go cull the incest manhwas, not this one since where the incest at
This shit has ntr, weird grooming/predatory shit, and no, the predatory doesn’t only apply to this bummy ass married man; it also has this overdone “dont be too loud” shit that makes me mad as a bonus fuck kill this man
Dude I was looking forward to a hot annoying and somewhat serious morally grey character with white hair
I wasn’t looking forward to a rapist making someone parade around naked with plastic wraps tf
Im already reading this with zero braincells, can we go back to lovey dovey sex and not this clown’s bummy ass tryna hit on someone asleep?? Like shit if it was consensual noncon then yess but this genuinely had me gnawing on wrappers since I was stuffing myself with candy mad and pissed
Surely we weren’t going for this (hear my sarcasm) but obviously she looks like a fucking kid which is an artstyle I could excuse, but then we look at the guy who obviously looks enough of an adult that if we do a side by side comparison with him and this girl, she’d be at around his waist (overexaggeration aside, size difference is a thing but when it’s done like smaller one looks like a child, it’s scary)
Also creepy so might as well call it a day
Bro I'm genuinely so scared of reading n comments r so positive but it's straight
Is it really interesting n I don't get bombarded with "your gooch is nectar" or "this tight slutty virgin poosay" like I can't exaggerate enough
Like I want a story but not the really slow ones or some random shit happens in the middle and angst appears which I doubt because this is smut but I don't want to have one dimensional characters whose lines in every half panel consist of degrading and contradictory shit that even oxymorons can't make work, is my standard or the scope of what I'm looking for too high in expectation
Honestly reading it, it’s pretty good I’d suggest giving it a try and they don’t really do cringy dirty talk like that ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶ I’m pretty picky myself and don’t like most smut stories this one has been fun so far
Just what kind of things did u read-
My thoughts exactly
Girl what type of smut have you been reading
Try man with ghost,it’s sooo good
Not only was I looking for something funny, I was looking forward to something coherent enough and not the intrusive thought this was
Literally intrusive because it dug into my brain and made me contemplate on getting a pregnancy test as a guy and non-literal being this SHIT IS ASS and something you'd expect from a 50 year old fuck looking at whatever's trending, attempting to be revolutionary by poking fun at it only to be as bad as everything else and fails at the job it's trying to be because it's trying to be everything
Like fuck it does a shit job at making you feel the comedic tone (it's barely even funny with how it's basically just a shock factor) and the characters being moderately gray doesn't set the tone because it's not done right
All I get is an insecure guy who's a shitty bum that happens to achieve the conditions he wanted outside of SA and being kidnapped but doesn't like it because they got kidnapped by a guy, reasonable asf
Then we have an asshole waste of a human being being exploited by a company so unrealistic it's not even funny and basically likes to fuck (sa) a bum who doesn't like him and he, wanting leave by tt cancer, finds out he's pregnant and we get a random fuck from the company trying to cancel his leave
Like what the fuck do you want me to do with all that, it's not coherent, it's unfunny and fails at its job, which I can't stress enough, and the sex feels so fucking dry it drains the shit out my asshole
I'm so mad because I'm gonna continue reading on the one premise 'how'd he get pregnant' LIKE BROOO I'M GONNA KMS
Real, it's kinda a snooze rn but i wanna know more about the pregnacy
it's so funny how oldschool this feels (Why r u two not discussing about positions the moment the kiss happens, hell I'd do that way before that part) but then the mc's humor (inner dialogue) is so fucking funny LMAOOO
will def read