Hello I uploaded a translation of the raws for the first time there were some errors I have done my best to fix them :)
I dislike the mom so much u literally neglected ur child til his death and I dislike what Ethan did and he should pay I just want to say he was a child and it felt like Jamie didn’t understand even tho it’s not Jamie’s fault now he is a teenager he should understand that the kid only ever want his moms love but instead him and sue got it I felt bad for Ethan he couldn’t properly control his feelings cause no one ever showed him the mom should’ve been held accountable aww boo hoo she regrets it that’s too late your child is dead. But I’m glad everyone is happy I just felt that kid deserved better
This is all from his trauma and yes the fl is not the original but how is he supposed to know how is he supposed to trust someone who has constantly done bad things then suddenly changed it’s suspicious let’s be realistic about this situation if I was him and went through what he has I wouldn’t trust her either and as for the child she’s so sweet he shouldn’t be neglectful of her but imagine seeing the person who is an exact look alike of the person who cause you a lifetimes worth of trauma and all the memories flood back every time it’s not just them he can’t be around it’s all women cause of the trauma and instead of ppl trying to understand they call him cold and whisper also the fl comes from another world which knows of ptsd and she didn’t think for a fact that he may be experiencing it and just gets mad with his treatment she needs to understand things take time and since she is in a persons body who has done terrible things people won’t accept her as easily . The point I’m trying to make is they all have feelings they just need space and things shouldn’t be rushed cause it could cause more harm pulse the ml is trying
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Actually, that reaction maybe because of his first wife. Earlier, didn't he have a sort of nightmare/hallucination where his first wife was curled around him and whispering in his ear? Whatever happened between them may have traumatized him to the point where he can't stand touching women. (He stopped dancing when his first wife passed away, so maybe it's women in general that he can't bear to touch.)
Yeah I said that towards the end it may look jumbled since I didn’t put punctuation haha
wait wait wait, we can't really blame the fl for not understanding him. just cause u know ptsd doesn't mean u can easily recognized who have this disorder. also she doesn't know that the king have bad experiences with women. she would have understand if the king treat only her badly but the king is also neglecting blanche which is probably cause she reminds him of his abuser but the fl doesn't know that, which made her think that the king is just a jerk to everyone. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
The original Abagail was put in a bad situation too. Some of it has been touched on but the original did not know she was going to be entering a touchless marriage. So she figured that maybe she could change his mind about that. It was wrong of him to not tell her that info until after the marriage.
She has her own expectations to live up to, as we see in recent chapters. New Abby is trying to avoid pressure from OG Abby's fam by dancing with the King so that she doesn't get gossiped about again. Also Abby's fam expects her to have a child.
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Spoilers. But the reason why OG Abby got so crazy is because her upbringing was super mysogonistic. It wasn't just vanity, she was taught that she was worthless otherwise. So she went to extremes to make sure that she was the most beautiful woman around her new husband in hopes that he'd look her way. She was never given an explanation as to why he didn't want to touch her, so she toggled between blaming herself or blaming other women. I don't even think she loved the King. She just didn't have the framework to justify her existence without fulfilling her role as a proper wife and lady. Her family doesn't care about her husband's circumstances. She just kept getting told that she was be the problem by her family. I think its safe to say she was driven crazy by it.
The gaps in New Abby's memory of OG Abby's life get filled in and we will find out that OG Abby's death was an accident. She died after tying her corset too tight. Like that's how hard this already beautiful woman tried to beautify herself. She died for no reason. If she had a sense of self outside of what she looked like maybe she could have made peace with her "abnormal" marriage situation.
i gueess that woman was his stepmother or maybe his 1st wife hshs
i agree
I’m not blaming haha I was just saying she could try to think a little more yk but not everyone thinks like that just saying if I were her I would think it’s weird the way he’s acting and would wonder y instead of thinking he’s just a jerk and that he hates me if I were blaming I would’ve said the fl needs to do better but I picked apart y both of them need personal growth and y some of the other ppl just bashing don’t seem to realize the big situation rather than he’s a jerk or she’s a jerk
Remember when he made that promise he said he would return and just to wait he didn’t specified when he would return, she doesn’t owe him anything but she knew he didn’t say anything bad in the letter since it was tampered yet still treats him cold high I don’t fully understand. She has went through a lot of trauma but she knows he didn’t take part in it and pretends she doesn’t know him why can’t they at least talk what happened out instead of leaving every time like I’m confused
Yeah what you said. I practically screamed in frustration with her.
That is tiring being called something that you don’t want to be called and being forced to wear girls clothes when he doesn’t want to I hope he will be able to speak up for himself in the future. Plus like what wrong with the guys who tease like what’s wrong with looking like a girl your mother is a girl your sister is a girl like it’s not a big deal those bullies need to grow tf up
I feel that it was immature to call him immature when she took advantage of him and even admitted it when u say it was wrong I did blank end the sentence right there because yes it was wrong I don’t do stuff like that it’s sexual assault even if you’re a kid yk it would be nice to have a sit down and them talk but he was avoiding it for a reason it is obvious he doesn’t want to pursue what happened with her instead of going after him y not wait until he’s ready to talk even if it can be frustrating u should push that onto someone and get mad when they don’t respond Ik since I’ve had situations happen b4 (not the assault but forcing feelings) I hope she grows more and and then they can discuss cuz I feel like art is just gonna give in and apologize that’s all ( if u disagree that’s fine but don’t be rude to me I’m human too and plz don’t try and force your opinions on me I’ll hear u out but if I say that won’t change my mind respect that )
I don’t feel bad for the ml at all he was grown enough to know what to do and what not to do and he paid for the choices he’s made it’s up the fl to forgive him or not she and her child had to suffer cause of him and her father and he felt bad cause of his guilty conscience but that on him he wanted to go back to ask her to forgive him but wanted to ask the her that didn’t know what happened that isn’t forgiveness that’s just erasing past mistakes the the other doesn’t know abt to make you feel better
the dad threatened him that if he wouldn't neglect reina he would kill her and her child and he couldn't do anything cuz if he did the people the father planted in the mansion will kill her and her son anytime
he WAS (past tense bitch) stupid and weak and couldn't do anything to save his wife and child and NOW he is trying to be a good father and husband so can ya'll just put aside the painful past and look at the bright future?
"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift that's why it is called present"
Just as you have your opinion I have mine and u can always do something it’s just if it’s more favorable or not when you have trauma it’s not so easy to just toss things aside. If u want speak somewhere else I don’t like the way you approached me.
He just explained the storyline to you and gave a quote sheesh. yours was an opinions his was an explanation take it with a grain of salt. Plus it’s just a story.
guysss chile its just a manhwa
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The dad threatened him because he let the dad threaten him. The moment he became a Duke he should have tossed the dad out. Instead he kept clinging to the father in law. He never tried to take his own power. It would be different if the father in law was a king or emperor, but he is just another Duke. And since when can a noble from another land interfere like that? If he has spies in your castle organize your people and kick them out. Not even because he loves the Fl. Putting all that aside for a moment, why even become the Duke as the second son if you aren't gonna take control? Like, what did he want the title of Duke for?
I wish he at least tired to live up to the words he spoke to the FL when they first meet in the glass house. "Live your life. Don't be swayed and give it to others."
Characters aren't always automatically likeable in stories. And characters shouldn't be automatically hated. But when a character is written in a way where they fuck up in a major way it normally takes more than being a little nice to redeem them.
This guy has a bit more of wiggle room because he remembers the past, unlike other MLs that were absolute shits in their past life to the FL but only the FL remembers it. So at least he knows where he fucked up and how to not do so this time. But also because he remembers he will be expected to make amends. And he hasn't done that yet. Not just in my opinion he hasn't done so yet.
He can't just show up and be nice all of a sudden. He has to tell her the conditions of their marriage. Everything up until a bit before Elle was born is the same as the last life. So they spent the majority of their marriage with him ignoring her. Which is why she gave him the stink eye when she asked if he liked her now. Until he at least communicates with her the process of making amends hasn't begun.
First of all I wasn’t talking to so u should’ve minded your business and second of all do not tell me what to do third of all they are both opinions as I have read the story and fourth of all your ass is getting blocked.
I agree with you that’s what I was saying and was saying that’s y I don’t like him and they were coming at me trying to make me change my opinion to what they like which is quite rude and then got mad at me for defending myself thank you mece !! I’m allowed to dislike characters people should be able to understand that :(
Just cause he tells you to ignore her and never love her doesn’t mean you have to do it you have your own mind and yk its wrong whatever happens from there on is on u
Some of y’all gonna claim the husband didn’t have a choice but you always have a choice it’s only if it’s favorable to you or not so don’t spout that what doesn’t change is what he did that can never be forgotten I don’t blame the wife if she doesn’t forgive him if I were in her position I wouldn’t trust him either cause of what he did even if he says it was for good reasons it still hurts and he could’ve took another approach and what she did to her child isn’t okay either
Honestly I feel she is a terrible master and even though she doesn’t see it she is their parent if they are orphaned and you raised them since they were children they are your responsibility even as an adult she took no accountability for having raised them a certain way and not correcting certain behaviors then abandoning them cause of the Nobel feeling bad for another kid when she should take responsibility for the ones she raised plus showing that the duke and Claude are more important is a crappy thing to do it shows how little she cares for anyone else but her own selfishness. She should’ve owned up to her own behavior honestly dropping this it was disappointing.
I think your missing the fact that she was also a child when she found them, which is stated multiple times, and one of them is actually older than her. They are all adults at this point and need to start taking accountability for their own actions and working through their shit. Also, I think it's made very clear throughout the series that she's not supposed to be some squeaky clean, virtuous heroine. She's a mage who very clearly was treated as something other than human her entire life, I don't expect her to be anything other than how she's portrayed but she's a least worked on herself enough to care about not harming other people for selfish reasons. Unlike Oliven.
Nah, she found oliven when she was an adult and he was still a kid and what s worse? She hide her face and identity from them. For people who lost all their family, only have one person who they can mentally rely on and suddenly that person vanished, would they broke? They tried to reach out to her but she neglected them, she even tried to hide cause she didnt want to drag them in? Then just hide everything from the start, why asked them to help her experimenting when she know that power was harmful? Even she knows she couldnt do anything on her own. Look at Claude and Ethan, they only knew FML for a short time but if she leaves will they broke? Ofc they do, even worse. Though oliven deserved it when he choose to harm people with dark magic but it doesnt change the fact that FML is a trash master
There's literally a scene where the ML says there's only a 10yr age gap AT MOST. She was a teenager when she found Oliven, what are you talking about? The timeline wouldn't even make sense if she was an adult when she found him. And AGAIN, they are adults now, the accountability for his actions is on him. I never said she wasn't wrong for doing what she did, I said I didn't expect anything else from the fact that she was a) also still a child when she picked them up and b) from the glimpses that we got of her childhood, she obviously was not ever treated as a human. It's made very obvious from the beginning that apart from her best friend's child (who she has such attachment to because her best friend is the only person who did treat her as human growing up and because she feels guilty cause she believes her prophecy and writing it as a book are what made it happen), she does not really know how to give love and care to other people, and with how it's written, I think the only reason she knows to give love and care to her best friend's kid was because his exact feelings were written out in her prophetic book, because she was explicitly told how he felt and what caused him to be that way. Also, she never looked at or viewed her apprentices as her children and I doubt she ever treated them that way. Don't get me wrong, I do still think she did not handle it the greatest, but I wasn't expecting different and Oliven needs to take accountability for his crap and I'm tried of seeing comment after comment trying to absolve this grown ass man of his shit because "oh, he had a shitty childhood and has clearly had no emotional development," like ok, is he still a child? No? Then literally he needs to figure it out and work through that shit himself.
Even if Oliver is a “grown ass mass” he lived majority of his life in the magic tower where they are known to be escentric and lack morals. Even though she was a teenager, she raised him when he was a child. That’s why she was so fond of him. So, it was her responsibility to teach him morals and do basic shit a guardian would do. Even if she doesn’t view herself as his parent, she was his guardian and only person who took care of him after his parents death. She never properly explained to him what he did was wrong or the repercussions nor to value human life. She assumed he knew and forbid him from being near her. MC is just an awful guardian and master who starves her disciples of affection. Oliver was still wrong for his actions but she played a major role in his character flaws. Oliver actions is reflection of her friend’s child if he reached adulthood without her intervention. MC kept her disciples at arms length knowing that they craved her affection and thought this was the best for them. But instead it turned into a shit show and made her disciple the villain. She literally is has similar parental flaws as the duke for her disciples.
P.S. Even though her body was a teenager, she mentally was older because she was living two lifetimes.
I don't expect a child taking care of a child to be able to properly teach anyone anything, especially when they themselves were never properly raised. In regard to your other comment, she's only lived one life, she goes back and forth between the two worlds but the two separate characters are still the same age, its not like she had one full life and then the other, she's literally just had two separate bodies with the same amount of experience
completely agreed with the first comment and everyone else saying shes a trash master ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
I think u forget that she lives two lives. She stated it herself in the beginning, she is far older than anybody around her
Even as a child shes older than them bcs she lives two lives as an adult
She was mature enough to not be an irresponsible parent figure
I honestly agree with your perspective. She has no obligation to fully take care of 3 adults (one of which has the emotional intelligence of a child) while also being the tower master. She took them in solely for their ability as mages, if she took them in with the goal to raise them as her children just because they all had traumatic pasts then at that point she would’ve had not 3 disciples but at least a number in the double digits considering that since most characters in this story have traumatic childhoods (e.g. the maid, the duke, etc.). As shown in the manga the three disciples formed close bonds with each other giving us reason to believe that she as their mentor gave them enough guidance to be able to form emotional bonds with other human beings (something she did not have to do in order to aid them in their journey as MAGES). It is not her responsibility to control the actions of ADULTS who carelessly endanger civilians just to look for her. Mind you, her actions in leaving them so abruptly with no explanation was wrong on her part but that does not give sufficient reason to call her a “horrible” master.