beta
idk man tabin and sami actually fit well together, I mean in reality that guy likes both versions of sami, what she was and what she is and personally i think she will also love what she can be. i dont get the same feeling from pyojyun
he will*
to be fair, that's because this manhwa doesn't even give Pyojun any screen time, lol. I don't like Tabin because he's the type of person who can't respect boundaries, but since he has access to Sami, he's in every chapter. Meanwhile, Sami keeps hiding secrets from Pyojun and holding back from him
Was it really that serious for both of them to argue over it bluds really picked black and white and ran with it. They completely missed the complexity of the characters and the story, just picked their own narrative and stuck to it. Like dude, why are you reading such a complex story if you’re only capable of seeing everything as black and white
*inserts "who invited him" meme* because that is how you sound.
And for someone who loves the word "complexity", you refuse to acknowledge that complex stories do have prejudices, biased and agenda.
And yes, the conversation between me and that sex offender who started the drama was not necessary, and so does your comment.
And if you think feminist comments calling out misogyny is a sign of black-and-white thinking, it says more about you.
Why do lots of mangago readers can't take criticism.
Non-existent Gods forbid we get bothered by bigotry
Calling out misogyny and riding on it are two completely different things. Having an opinion is never the issue; refusing to acknowledge or engage with any perspective other than your own is. And honestly, girl, you’re the one who seems incapable of taking any criticism without immediately becoming defensive. I’d genuinely suggest interacting with people outside your own bubble and learning to engage with perspectives you don’t necessarily agree with.
Nothing you wrote made sense.
Thank you for your fake concern, and rest assured, I do interact with people in real life and take disagreements very well, but not to the detriment of my women and girls' peace and well-being.
And I am doing to hold your hand with a glove, when i tell you that every story is misogynistic as there are always biases and prejudices towards women and girls.
If you think being strong-willed and straightforward is being defensive, it shows that you hate radical feminists, and engage with the pacifist, submissive ones who are nice (not to confuse with kind).
And which criticism are you talking about?
I made a comment and engaged with others respectfully, but because @Hunny whom I have blocked long ago and never interacted with until that incident accused me of stuff I never wrote, I rightfully got annoyed.
You're just conversing in bad faith, and it's obvious you don't see sexism as a systemic issue
You're glossing over the fact that lots of people don't engage with others in good faith and are devil's advocates.
You're either naive or obnoxious to think that people do owe performative kindness to sex offenders, bigots or devil's advocates who love playing the centrists
LITERALLY, theyre both deranged imo. Robin boiled ML and FL down to "scared small female, and Big large scary man who can snap her neck" but lables themselves a radical feminist despite enforcing toxic gender roles onto the characters....i dont even wanna get started on Hunny cause thats a wholeeee separate issue cause fym youre using slurs to get your non existent point across
YUPPPP thank you
Girl???????? When exactly did I defend Hunny????? If anything, I’ve been against him from the beginning. You’ve somehow taken “their reading of the situation is reductive” and translated that into me being a devil’s advocate?????? like what?????? Those are two entirely different claims.
I never said misogyny shouldn’t be called out, never defended him, and never even said your criticism of him was wrong. You’re introducing an entire argument I never made and then arguing against it.
And disagreeing with you does not suddenly make me anti-feminist, pro-men, or a “devil’s advocate.” I can be a feminist, recognise sexism as systemic, and still think your reading of a story is reductive. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
Maybe engage with what I actually said instead of assigning me a position and then getting angry at me for holding it.
I FUCKING KNOW RIGHT??????? OMG TY
Feminism and pro-men is an oxymoron.
If you think, me, being rightfully annoyed and disappointed at male-centred readers about chapter 33, is being reductive, so be it. Have a day you deserve.
Lies, lies
If stating the biological fact that males are physically stronger than females, and the male lead is physically stronger than her is madness, so be it.
It shows how much non-radical feminists will always side with patriarchy and neoliberalism.
Writing that "my black-and-white" comment is at the same level of that rapist apologist's who started that crap, and suddenly changing the topic is gaslighting.
It's fine, I was wrong for wasting my time with fake Epstein haters (reference to the educational video made by Elliot Sang)
(Replying to robin thru your comment so disregard this) Fun fact every male is a "biological" male, sex is not smth that can be changed, GENDER is the social construct here, not sex. Like I said before Males and females store muscle DIFFERENTLY, women more so in the lower body and men in the upper body, thats a displacement of muscle and doesnt actually equate to actual physical strength OR biology as muscle distribution ISNT A COOKIE CUTTER PROCESS, its literally just genes. If me disagreeing with you MISOGYNISTIC take is somehow upholding the patriarchy (its not. Your take is, infact misogynistic and patriarchy fueled rhetoric) then so be it, cause i dont see cis, trans, or whatever identifying woman as weaker than a man. So whos the actual feminist here? Cause its not you
Idk how you're still holding space for her to learn cause she lacks cognitive thinking skills. Shes so convinced anyone who disagrees with her takes even SLIGHTLY is somehow anti-woman or holding up patriarchal values, as if her own argument doesnt do that itself. No one is playing devil's advocate and thats all she can say in retort to people who have a valid argument against her. Im also still tryna figure out who even implied sexism and misogyny aren't systemic, cause it wasnt us.
To that fake Epstein hater, I never stated the fact that males (the sex) are physically stronger than females.
Sorry that you drank the neoliberalism drink
*I stated that males (the sex
@robin the fake feminist, in NO medical books does it EVER say that males are weaker than females, thats MISOGYNY. If you Crack open any medical book or do a simple Google search it never claims that males are stronger it claims that MUSCLE is DISTRIBUTED differently. And physicality is MUTLIFACETED. So your claim that males are stronger than women is NOT a fact, is patriarchal fueled rhetoric to keep women as victims and the idea that theyre incapable of violence which obviously isnt true and misogyny. Your coined little "neoliberalism" term as an insult doesnt work here cause literally nothing i said aligns with it. Stop using words you just learned when it doesnt pertain to the conversation
Also did this racist kpop addict call ME an a fake epstine hater as if her weirdo idols dont have SA, racism, and CA issues. baby the call is coming from INSIDE the house
If me having a pfp of a kpop idol and being a radical feminist is racist and terf, so be it .
I sleep comfortably knowing I will never be a fake Epstein hater who thinks that coercion is only done through brutal force/force which is pro rape culture.
And says the one who reads Reverse thinking ,.what happened to "not everything is black and white" preaching?
Never mind, I was wrong for arguing with fake Epstein haters :(
@ robin 1st, never claimed coercion can be done by brute force infact is specifically argued against that idea and specifically said coercion is MANIPULATION and RAPE. So keep lying out your ass, still won't make you right and no one here agrees with your dumbass.
2nd, Yes Kpop is infact racist and misogynistic so youre not a feminist and youre a racist.
3rd, reading reverse thinking doesnt equate to me liking it, or supporting it, i literally dropped it so keep yapping
4th, Epstine was NEVER in this conversation youre a weirdo pedophile
To the fake Epstein hater, read your replies under my original comment, not you lying through your teeth. Talk about projection :(
@robin the weirdo misogynistic racist,
Going thru my reading list doesnt validate your point, I dropped reverse thinking but the plot of reverse thinking is literally the abused becoming the abuser and fighting with himself on it, so its not "black and white" unlike your ideologies its infact very nuanced but ik that's a big word for you. Everything i read or stopped reading validates my point, you're grasping at straws. Look at my comment under your og comment cause it LITERALLY SAYS
"Im not sure if you know this but 'coercion' doesnt happen through force specifically physically force, if it did it wouldnt be coercion; Its MANIPULATION, which he is not doing and I stand 10 toes behind my original point."
Ik you have a hard time reading due to your disability but please do your best to keep up, CORECION IS MANIPULATION so again keep lying and go back to English and reading 9 cause you genuinely need it, you cant even read properly its sad.
"Definitions Coercion: Forcing compliance through threats, intimidation, or pressure.Manipulation: Influencing someone through hidden, indirect, or deceptive tactics" you're a dumbass @Weirdo racist misogynistic Robin
The fake Epstein still lying, and the male lead did coerce her through intimidation, manipulation, fear, and guilt tripping.
I am tired of arguing with you. I choose peace over a conversation with a fake Epstein hater who does understand plain language, but is obnoxious on purpose.
Have a day you deserve.
On a note, you reading Reverse thinking doesn't make you a rapist, that is true, and me illegally listening to kpop doesn't make me a bigot, though your words mean nothing to me since you're a fake Epstein hater (also, watch the video of Elliot Sang, an activist).
Have a day you deserve.
Im still tryna figure out when he coerced her, she left she came back, she leaves, she comes back, he waits, he never threated her to stay thats YOUR imagination. This is what I get for tryna reason with bimbo racist kpoppie losers who dont actually read books instead sit on their ass all day playing fake woke and being performative, I hope you get into a car accident
Your last comment tells me everything i need to know, and I am the terfy and racist person.
Anyways, read Andrew dworkin's books and watch the videos of Unpunishable woman.
Also, the female lead is neglected so she clings into him because she is sold the fairy tale myth.
, I am going to live a healthy life far from pick me handmaindens and incels.
Thank you for your concern
@weird racist misogynistic kpop junkie, you are infact still a bigot for listening to music that profits off of African american cultural appropriation, considering you're repping a kpop idols as your pfp, actively supporting them. LMFAO thats the difference between us, I dont align myself with any toxic BL while you align yourself with a toxic industry based off of CA, racism, misogyny, and trafficking LMFAOOO yeah girl have the worst day ever
*kppopie*
@racist pick me, male centered robin, "Pick me hand maidens" yet youre the one forcing toxic patriarchal bullshit "facts" onto cis women? The call is coming from inside the house. Im not reading ANYTHING. A racist ass misogynistic Diddy loving kpop Stan gives LAWL. enjoy your male centered ideals and go rot in a ditch somewhere far from society so we dont have to smell the putrid stench of your last 4 brain neurons decaying. You must really be dyslexic cause the spelling is "Kpoppie"
Says the person who is under every comment "eating me up".
kya gawar aurat hai ye robin, twitter breed mereko nahi samaj aatey. itna jahil aur obnoxious koi kaise ho sakta hai. dusri language mai likh rahi hu taaki ye ullu aurat phir kit kit na karey
HELP YOURE SO FUNNY
Let me be the second opinion. (Lowkey can't take ts) ate you tf up. Like there was no mf table after they was done with you. All you did was make allegations and they read you like a book. Learn and be a better person.