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Eren Yeager July 13, 2026 11:42 am

does anyone else feel bad for ekles?? bc i LOVE this manhwa to death and even own a hard copy—but am i the only one who finds it SO weird how they villainized ekles; the literal slave who had kind of been pitted in a “stockholm syndrome” type of thing with penelope in a sort of way? like he literally had no one but penelope as she literally “saved” him to USE him and give him false hopes of “love” i guess. i know penelope had a goal to finish the game asap but its just that they did ekles so… horribly. like wtfdym hes probably dead and his body is fucking unknown . he just wanted to be valued by his savior and was literally manipulated by yvonne…

    Eren Yeager July 13, 2026 11:49 am

    instead of “thumbs down-ing” my comment does anyone care to give me a rebuttal or else im going assume that its apparently its just okay to villainize slaves for no actual reason according to you guys

    CayenneCappuccino July 13, 2026 12:42 pm

    While I absolutely agree that it is okay to feel badly about Ekles' fate, we must also remember that from the beginning she was for the most part forthright. She didn't treat him better or worse than any other. She was even one to dehumanize him from the beginning, it is only that she hadn't beaten him half-to-death and gave him barely human decency that he clung to her. Once she had resolved herself she tried to free him, not as a test, but as a realization of moral failing, never once would I consider it logical to find attraction to someone who holds the leash to my chains. That being said, when presented with such an opportunity to live for himself remind me again what he chose to do with that? His is a man with a pitiful fate, but we cannot deny the choices he made when presented with the idea that his 'master' no longer wanted to hold his chains or keep his collar.

    Eren Yeager July 13, 2026 8:30 pm
    While I absolutely agree that it is okay to feel badly about Ekles' fate, we must also remember that from the beginning she was for the most part forthright. She didn't treat him better or worse than any other.... CayenneCappuccino

    do you know what stockholm syndrome is?? mf he lived as a slave for a great portion of his life. he more than likely had nowhere to go as the prince of a fallen empire and literally had no one else but penelope as she was his “savior” he felt like he was being abandoned by his “master”

    CayenneCappuccino July 15, 2026 4:52 am
    do you know what stockholm syndrome is?? mf he lived as a slave for a great portion of his life. he more than likely had nowhere to go as the prince of a fallen empire and literally had no one else but penelop... Eren Yeager

    I have heard of Stockholm syndrome, at the same time should Penelope be obligated to indulge in enabling that behavior when she herself realized that distance and freedom for him should've been the healthier option. Even then, did he not betray her out of frustration that she did not love him? He wanted a master but she didn't want that for him. I'm not saying her method was right, but indulging him would've led to more complications down the line.

Eren Yeager July 10, 2026 11:17 am

YESSSSSSS YESSSSSS YESSSSSSSSSSS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I LOVE YOU LUCUS. ANY OF YOU BITCHES WHO WANTED JAVI TO BE THE ML ARE PEDOS ON THE DOWNLOW.

Eren Yeager June 17, 2026 6:42 pm

ch67 and i hate the ml so much.. does anyone else also think that the ml’s brother and the fl have SO MUCH more chemistry??? and the fact that he was one of her only friends in her past life too… idk it shouldve been him instead

    SillyGooseTaeui July 2, 2026 6:09 pm

    I want to start reading the manga, but I've seen the anime and THIS
    I genuinely don't like the ML in the anime i thought Juliane can get the prince and elise should either date the doctor or julianes brother
    Boom, world peace

Eren Yeager June 14, 2026 4:56 pm

why is she still a kid??? its been 40 chapters and shes STILL 3 years old bruh

Eren Yeager June 13, 2026 4:29 pm

i am so bored

Eren Yeager June 8, 2026 4:14 am

this used to be so good back in like 2022 until the author wanted to be racist

    Eren Yeager June 8, 2026 7:22 am

    who is thumbs downing my comment… racism isn’t excusable

    Shooni June 10, 2026 1:43 am
    who is thumbs downing my comment… racism isn’t excusable Eren Yeager

    They think it’s fine because it’s just fiction and it’s “improving the storyline”

Eren Yeager April 16, 2026 7:59 am

this is so boring i think i just hate harems where the fl does literally nothing and everyones js into her bc of plot armor

Eren Yeager April 16, 2026 6:56 am

im gonna get hate for this but im ngl the daughter is annoying as fucking shit and acts like a brat

    panda123 April 17, 2026 11:48 am

    since they introduced her i’ve been thinking this!!! it was tough reading every chapter

    Keva April 17, 2026 1:03 pm

    Come on! She’s a literal toddler!

    jumdog April 17, 2026 1:24 pm

    She’s a child yall Not that children can’t be annoying but come on

    Eren Yeager April 26, 2026 3:56 pm

    idk it makes it hard and insufferable to read

Eren Yeager April 4, 2026 8:12 am

i like this but i have so many complaints. first of all… theyre dragging this shit out SO much holy fuck like why is she rejecting him when the entire plot is about her dedication towards him. and honestly the love triangle seemed so bland and forced… and they made it a love SQUARE….? WHY COULDNG IT BE YURI???????? the cute girl turns into… a bland sun male lead….? what BULLSHIT !!!!!!! I WANT YURI???? IF NOT YURI…. JUSY FUCKING SAY YES TO KYLO OH MY GOD THIS IS SO ANNOYING… theyre dragging this out so much…. TWO rejections??????????

Eren Yeager March 22, 2026 2:48 pm

this is so boring theres zero build up and no decent backstory or decent context and the mc is so bland, unoriginal, and just… boring lmao with no real personality so far. this is just more “villainess slop” ☠

    vvvkkkvvv March 24, 2026 12:33 am

    It is sloppy but I personally enjoy it

    Wasp45 April 6, 2026 5:52 pm
    It is sloppy but I personally enjoy it vvvkkkvvv

    Same

    sixsendyy April 8, 2026 1:14 pm

    Right, maybe ive matured but these type of stories used to be fun now its just repetitive, unoriginal and feels unproductive

    vvvkkkvvv April 8, 2026 9:26 pm
    Right, maybe ive matured but these type of stories used to be fun now its just repetitive, unoriginal and feels unproductive sixsendyy

    Tbh Ive read a shit ton and I def feel like this too to a degree but when you come home after work/school, retarded slop hits the spot sometimes.

    Imo there are only like max 20 princess/nobility/saintess manwhas that are actually worth anyone's time. Most of it is just a copy paste of a more competent artist's idea.

    sixsendyy April 9, 2026 8:54 am
    Tbh Ive read a shit ton and I def feel like this too to a degree but when you come home after work/school, retarded slop hits the spot sometimes. Imo there are only like max 20 princess/nobility/saintess manwha... vvvkkkvvv

    I cant argue with your first point, only thing i have to blatantly disagree with is that there are like 20 properly good series. Ive been into this sh for 6 years and ive read at least 3 thousand maybe even more. I wouldnt have continued reading if there were only a few good stories out there. You just have to keep looking!

    vvvkkkvvv April 9, 2026 11:56 am
    I cant argue with your first point, only thing i have to blatantly disagree with is that there are like 20 properly good series. Ive been into this sh for 6 years and ive read at least 3 thousand maybe even mor... sixsendyy

    20 proper ones that I wouldnt mind recommending to normies that never experiencedthis stuff. If its people that are into it like you and me there are obviously more. Look, Im obviously more sloppy reader than you but I dont think normies jam with the less good stuff as much.
    I dont see 3 thousand mawhas on your account but Ill take your word for it

    Nizze April 17, 2026 1:04 pm
    20 proper ones that I wouldnt mind recommending to normies that never experiencedthis stuff. If its people that are into it like you and me there are obviously more. Look, Im obviously more sloppy reader than y... vvvkkkvvv

    Yeah... I do have to agree about the 20some proper ones... because there's just so much as different stereotypes we can have... after the 1-2 big ones on it all that comes after feel like some sort of repetition... just like this one have a couple similarities with "I'm a Fake Saintess but the Gods are Obsessed"...
    But I guess most of all we are getting tired of the good girl getting inside the villainess... because they just turn into the the good girl heroine mc we got tired of years ago. At some point it starts feeling like it's all more of the same...
    What I do to feel it a bit less is to kinda interchange the genres, if it's ch kr or jp and sometimes go for novels...
    Quality-wise... as long as the art is not too sloppy, the characters and plot are not too dumb and it ain't too red flaggy I'm ok...

    vvvkkkvvv April 17, 2026 3:31 pm
    Yeah... I do have to agree about the 20some proper ones... because there's just so much as different stereotypes we can have... after the 1-2 big ones on it all that comes after feel like some sort of repetitio... Nizze

    I feel you. I would read more korean novels but some translations are abysmal and my brain is decomposing real time when I read them. I also don't like to wait for novel updates much.
    I've been reading more western classic romance books, because those are either written in english or translated by a professional.

    Nizze April 17, 2026 5:03 pm
    I feel you. I would read more korean novels but some translations are abysmal and my brain is decomposing real time when I read them. I also don't like to wait for novel updates much.I've been reading more west... vvvkkkvvv

    Ngl... I've spent so many years reading chinese mtl novels that it doesn't even bother me anymore... it was a long ride tbh... from finding fan-translations to the ch publishers creating an site/app and banning independent tl... to it getting a paywall to finding agregator sites with the raws and using mtl on them... even the mtl has gotten way better with time...
    You can try finding good novels on novel updates... just go for the completed ones...

    vvvkkkvvv April 17, 2026 10:03 pm
    Ngl... I've spent so many years reading chinese mtl novels that it doesn't even bother me anymore... it was a long ride tbh... from finding fan-translations to the ch publishers creating an site/app and banning... Nizze

    Bro, you are literally going through hell just to read barely comprehensible chapter of a novel Dx
    Thats some dedication

    Nizze April 18, 2026 12:40 am
    Bro, you are literally going through hell just to read barely comprehensible chapter of a novel DxThats some dedication vvvkkkvvv

    Honestly tho... more than dedication I was just so fed up with all the same tropes in manga and manhwa and they all taking YEARS to end... and coming from a time where there were few proper novels in english on the net and a lot of horrid wttpad fanfics... at that point the mtl was looking real sweet...
    But yeah... mostly there wasn't much in the comics department from what I was looking for... I do like reading about cultivation... but the ch comics put in a lot of fanservice that ain't even mentioned in the novel... and I also like the world-hopping trope (the cheating men must die genre) which each arc is one plot and there's very few comics about... so yeah... it was more desperation than dedication...
    Now at 30+ yo I feel it takes more dedication to keep reading some mangas than using mtl... at some point endings start to feel sad but necessary... so yeah... at that point using mtl to read a complete book felt better than taking years to know the ending of a comic. We are kinda lucky that monst kr rofan are based on completed books... ngl... most of times I go looking for the spoilers to know how it ends cuz I don't have the patience for it... and with that I keep up with the weekly chapters in a more lighthearted way. I believe celeb lady, I'll become the matriarch and male leads adopted daughter are the only rofan comics I liked so much I went for the novel. And a couple about idols/actors too...
    I really am more about phases... comics phase, novels phase, series phase and rn I'm in games phase... asite of keeping up with a couple comics I'm playing ragnarok online and waiting for the new dlc for house flipper 2...

    vvvkkkvvv April 18, 2026 12:54 pm
    Honestly tho... more than dedication I was just so fed up with all the same tropes in manga and manhwa and they all taking YEARS to end... and coming from a time where there were few proper novels in english on... Nizze

    Yeah, I had different phases too. Stopped reading manwha and manga at one point too, then returned back hard and now I'm reading less and trying to pick up books and literature that aren't just about romance.
    But I get the wait for manwha and manga is insane. It's way faster to write a novel than to finish a comic and because of that, there is way more novels out there.
    I personally just dislike that there is more and more ai shitty translations for both comics and web novels.
    I tried to endure it but I just couldn't... xD

    STEWIE April 30, 2026 1:54 pm
    Right, maybe ive matured but these type of stories used to be fun now its just repetitive, unoriginal and feels unproductive sixsendyy

    plus the fact that most of the mc being so mature in their past life (in their late twenties or in their early thirties) and then they suddenly do some stupid ass childish mistakes and dare to ask:
    "this doesn't supposed to happen"
    "why does the male lead's in love with me instead of the original female lead?"

    they literally tweak the timeline and still can't comprehend what's wrong and what's different, lol.

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