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delulu, the solution

If it helps at all, I'm pretty confident in saying Dohu is likely autistic. I mean, if one reads any comments, a lot people have finally begun to see it and agree with me. I'm not the only autistic person who relates to him so much while reading the series :')

lol yeah I got that vibe too but like I don’t think autism is a justification for stalking someone

True, tbh it's been so long since I last read this from the beginning so all the details are fuzzy + you didn't state any reasons in your post so I assumed it was like a lot of people who complain about him (in a way of being ignorant about that part of him), my bad

Actually it's not that I understand but I think it's something to do with the way she has perceived the characters. She thinks she can never be a part of this world and somewhere in her mind "the kael who was ready die for diana" has been imprinted so she can't think of the same guy liking her. Also, I think she os too caught up in the revenge to notice that but I have a different opinion about this. Anymore it will be a spoiler.

yeah I understand that in a way but I feel like the premise being she totally bypasses the actual story and is only seeing the aftermath. The author made it so that they are in fact acting of their own free will, there is no more story. so why is she still trapped in the idea of them just being story characters? it feels like a plot hole to me, but well if you've read the whole thing hopefully theu will make sense of this later

From what I read and understood from the novel, her sole purpose is the downfall of Diane and then give that white hair guy a life/means to live. She thinks that's what she has to do and then she will be back to her original end. There is one more reason, she just can't believe or trust kael's love for her, more like she doesn't even notice because she is too caught up in revenge and thinks Kael kinda still likes Diane..... this gets proved, kinda..... spoiler
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when everything was ready to make diane step down from the role of crown princess but Kael decided not to hold it against her and didn't support her disthronement. It was like throwing water on all of Fl's work, effort that she put until then. Which leds the FL to think Kael is still in love with her and that's why he didn't support her disthronement. This almost made her suicide because she thought she has no more use and this way maybe she can go back to her world. Later it gets revealed that kael did it because the crown prince asked for it and he wanted to over with diane and crown prince's matter so that he can focus on him and FL but he didn't discuss it with FL and kinda avoided her before it happened. FL storngly believed that Kael still loves diane and her plan of pulling her down from high seat didn't work since kael interfered and won't work anymore, and thus she doesn't have a purpose anymore. She never thought that kael actually started liking her because the marriage was forced by fl and kael let her do everything because he wasn't interested and suddenly when he went back to work, the first significant thing he did was opposing Diane's disthronement, obviously there are more stuffs he did but this hit the FL most. To be frank, I don't like Kael, he doesn't want revenge because he spent more time for Diane and doesn't want to do that anymore and wants to focus on his life, I get it. But he knew for a fact that all FL is doing is getting revenge for him and FL almost lets him know everything he does, so he could have just asked her not to do it and stop with it. But no, he let it marinate; FL put efforts into stuffs and he just watched and when it was time to brew it, he blew her efforts. I hate these kinds the most.

damn.. yeah that sounds really frustrating. I like that in just the last chapter on here is Helios promising them not to ask them to interfere in his relationship and he won't in theirs and then this happens lol.

this story could be summed up to a bunch of walking mental illnesses.

Yeah! but at the end Helios does end up divorcing diane and marrying another lady. So we can say FL's revenge succeeded. Well All is well that ends well. But it's true, all of them have some sort of mental illness. I am not even sure how I managed to finish this frustrating piece of novel!

“she is too caught up in revenge and thinks Kael kinda still likes Diana..... this gets proved,” that’s wrong. He doesn’t still like Diana, he simply doesn’t want anything to do with her anymore or anything to do with Helios. I still don’t understand the mindset behind people who believe he still likes Diana just because he pardoned her. No, he doesn’t. He simply wants to live with Hestia in peace and leave the palace people to their own devices. I can understand being upset by his decision, but I don’t think we should be misconstruing his actions. “So he could have just asked her to stop”, sorry, but do you really think that Hestia would have stopped just because she asked? She came back to life just to avenge him… and considering that she wasn’t thinking of the characters as real people, I doubt she would have. Her efforts, in my opinion, were selfish. Did she ever ask him if he wanted revenge…? No, she didn’t. She was just bulldozing forward. I don’t think it’s right to villainize him for a revenge he didn’t even desire… I do not even think he was in the wrong for what he did. He is the one who was driven to suicide by Diana, he deserves that much autonomy to make his own decisions about how he wants to treat them. Either way, it’s not as if all of Hestia’s efforts were for nothing. She managed to sow discord between Diana and Helios that could not be fixed again.

That's what Hestia must be thinking, it's not my point. You see Helios is tired of Diana and wants to do nothing with her, this is clear as a sky to the reader but not to Hestia. But he never came forward and asked Hestia to drop the plan and go somewhere else to live because initially he just let Hestia do whatever she wanted. His feelings for Hestia developed slowly and by the time he was sure, Hestia was already too far in the revenge plan. It's true that Hestia might not have stopped if he asked, but I don't remember if he at least tried. (like i don't remember this part,might be wrong as well) But this is nothing that pisses me off, like Helios is the biggest victim in the novel and he deserves a happy life. What pisses me and some other readers off is he never discusses anything with Hestia before doing, like important ones! That event, diana's disthronement is the biggest example. Like he waited until Hestia planned, gathered everybody, got approval, and then one day ago he just said he opposes the plan because he knew, his decision is enough to overthrow everybody else. Like I know, the crown prince asked to keep it a secret But really! Again doing favor to the crown prince who is 50% responsible for that suicide!? Did we not learn anything from first time? Like, since he wanted nothing to do with Diana, crown prince; then let them wipe their own butt! He only came to his sense when he found out that Hestia wanted to jump from the window and then left the capital to change the environment! Hestia wanted revenge but if Helios butted in atleast a little earlier like he did at the disthronement, I still think everything could have been solved to some degree. Again, we need drama so that's the purpose. And I think you are correct where you are standing I am correct at my standing! We have a very opposing way of seeing and analysing the issue.

You are sympathising in the weirdest way and so wrongly at that. Did you not read the first part properly? Where he was manipulating her, gaslighting her and trying to coerce her to leave and did the same to her husband. He is a manipulative bastard who chose this profession cause it suits his sick tendencies. He is the typical white patriarchal man of that era that used their new found way to call their sick fucked up games science. Finally they could play mind games and call it science. Back then they did not have any legislations around sciences much so these fucked up men did whatever they wanted and used their authority as untouchable white scientist (with noble titles) to trample on people who had common sense and came up with concerned voices against the strange fucked up shit they were up to. He is one of those.I think the author is trying to reference that kinda thing authentically in one single character maybe.

They still exist today. Manipulating research and spreading insane bullshit. Like Andrew Hubermann. A fucked up psycho who uses his knowledge on human psyche to manipulate women and other adults to his own benefit. I also first thought he was just a normal doc ahead of his time, then the more we saw of him I knew he is meant to be this kind of sick fuck.

by the way, the sharp tone isn't towards you, but these types of scientists. I know to many of these real stories cause I study it so all that rage came back up while I was reading this and saw this character. for a second I was gonna throw hands when I read your comment, then read the rest and realised what it was about. I get you, but I think you off the mark here. though I guess a character like the one you feel he is meant to be would actually be nice in this story....

nah I get what you were saying. Like Anthony Fouchie he both created covid and the vacc for covid and people treat him like he's a saint. Literally biggest cash grab in history.

Yeah maybe I skimmed the backstory a bit lol. Idk I also watched that show nurse ratched, she is literally one of the cruelest doctors ever. But not because that's how she is as a person but because that's what the occupation does to a person. I recognize those people were fucked up but I don't really think it was like the consensus to be evil in order to be a psychiatrist. But I'm thinking and another easy way to interpret his past actions are intentional, like he ruined her husband to get to her.

I try not to blame white people so much as the institutions put into place by their forefathers. fuck those guys.

He will probably do something much worse in this life and I'll feel like shit for even considering him human lol/

I don't think they forgive just mostly feel bad for him :/

Idk I see a lot of people saying all they care about is Rezef and I'm like... Mc literally sacrificed her entire life to take him down

Oh damn that's crazy